Quote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:03:50 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:00:55 PMQuote from: Threebean on July 25, 2015, 02:58:02 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 02:55:34 PMand I don't even have to separate my post with some random characters...Tony is a damn genius!!Now let's not get carried away. Afternoon Duke. Ok...lets just leave it that he is a damn fine grill master....an opinion based on CF 2011....Ah for some tailgating. Talk is to make the tailgating the main event making CF just an excuse to get together. Bailed out this year.I may rejoin the fray this year....And it only cost me a few Louie Viton purses to get the wife's mind right.....lol....
Quote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:00:55 PMQuote from: Threebean on July 25, 2015, 02:58:02 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 02:55:34 PMand I don't even have to separate my post with some random characters...Tony is a damn genius!!Now let's not get carried away. Afternoon Duke. Ok...lets just leave it that he is a damn fine grill master....an opinion based on CF 2011....Ah for some tailgating. Talk is to make the tailgating the main event making CF just an excuse to get together. Bailed out this year.
Quote from: Threebean on July 25, 2015, 02:58:02 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 02:55:34 PMand I don't even have to separate my post with some random characters...Tony is a damn genius!!Now let's not get carried away. Afternoon Duke. Ok...lets just leave it that he is a damn fine grill master....an opinion based on CF 2011....
Quote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 02:55:34 PMand I don't even have to separate my post with some random characters...Tony is a damn genius!!Now let's not get carried away. Afternoon Duke.
and I don't even have to separate my post with some random characters...Tony is a damn genius!!
Quote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...Yep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.I can't lie...I am more than a little envious of those who can double dip....fiscal responsibility not withstanding....
Quote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...Yep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.
The two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...
Quote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:01:39 PMQuote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...Yep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.Double dipping. You'd almost have to be a fool not to take advantage of the system. Not good for society as a whole though.Would that be a win-win? If you can be brought back as a contractor without the benefits that you keep as a retiree, already trained but still cheaper than what a fully loaded (with benefits)new hire would be?....food for thought.....
Quote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...Yep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.Double dipping. You'd almost have to be a fool not to take advantage of the system. Not good for society as a whole though.
Off for the afternoon/evening at a friends, pool, hot tub, stocked beer fridge, fine dinner on the grill and cigars with whiskey afterwards. @TexDave...now that is the way to enjoy a pool!
Quote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:05:55 PMQuote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:01:39 PMQuote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...Yep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.Double dipping. You'd almost have to be a fool not to take advantage of the system. Not good for society as a whole though.Would that be a win-win? If you can be brought back as a contractor without the benefits that you keep as a retiree, already trained but still cheaper than what a fully loaded (with benefits)new hire would be?....food for thought.....In SC they are not brought back as contractors, they are employees with full benefits and can retire again.
Quote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 03:21:47 PMOff for the afternoon/evening at a friends, pool, hot tub, stocked beer fridge, fine dinner on the grill and cigars with whiskey afterwards. @TexDave...now that is the way to enjoy a pool!GFYThat is the way my warden sees this one.
Quote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 03:21:29 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:05:55 PMQuote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:01:39 PMQuote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...Yep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.Double dipping. You'd almost have to be a fool not to take advantage of the system. Not good for society as a whole though.Would that be a win-win? If you can be brought back as a contractor without the benefits that you keep as a retiree, already trained but still cheaper than what a fully loaded (with benefits)new hire would be?....food for thought.....In SC they are not brought back as contractors, they are employees with full benefits and can retire again. I may have to hang the dumb-assery label on the administrative / HR function of SC in that case.....
Quote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:25:04 PMQuote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 03:21:29 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:05:55 PMQuote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:01:39 PMQuote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...SheeshYep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.Double dipping. You'd almost have to be a fool not to take advantage of the system. Not good for society as a whole though.Would that be a win-win? If you can be brought back as a contractor without the benefits that you keep as a retiree, already trained but still cheaper than what a fully loaded (with benefits)new hire would be?....food for thought.....In SC they are not brought back as contractors, they are employees with full benefits and can retire again. I may have to hang the dumb-assery label on the administrative / HR function of SC in that case.....It hangs solely on the necks of the corrupt legislature. It was supposed to be for school teachers to try and retain the older ones that knew WTF they were doing but the corrupt legislature slipped in language so it applied to every state employee.
Quote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 03:21:29 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:05:55 PMQuote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:01:39 PMQuote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...SheeshYep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.Double dipping. You'd almost have to be a fool not to take advantage of the system. Not good for society as a whole though.Would that be a win-win? If you can be brought back as a contractor without the benefits that you keep as a retiree, already trained but still cheaper than what a fully loaded (with benefits)new hire would be?....food for thought.....In SC they are not brought back as contractors, they are employees with full benefits and can retire again. I may have to hang the dumb-assery label on the administrative / HR function of SC in that case.....
Quote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:05:55 PMQuote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:01:39 PMQuote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...SheeshYep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.Double dipping. You'd almost have to be a fool not to take advantage of the system. Not good for society as a whole though.Would that be a win-win? If you can be brought back as a contractor without the benefits that you keep as a retiree, already trained but still cheaper than what a fully loaded (with benefits)new hire would be?....food for thought.....In SC they are not brought back as contractors, they are employees with full benefits and can retire again.
Quote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:01:39 PMQuote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...SheeshYep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.Double dipping. You'd almost have to be a fool not to take advantage of the system. Not good for society as a whole though.Would that be a win-win? If you can be brought back as a contractor without the benefits that you keep as a retiree, already trained but still cheaper than what a fully loaded (with benefits)new hire would be?....food for thought.....
Quote from: Texas Redfish on July 25, 2015, 02:59:07 PMQuote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...SheeshYep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.Double dipping. You'd almost have to be a fool not to take advantage of the system. Not good for society as a whole though.
Quote from: Travellin Dave on July 25, 2015, 02:27:54 PMThe two things Dean didn't mention are free medical (although some are now required to pay some), and retirement.Paying retiree's basically the same as when they were working AND continuing their medical coverage is about as good as you could hope for....and it's what's bankrupting states...SheeshYep, sounds like a lot of cities too and almost every fire & police agency. South Carolina has a deal way better than that though. They can retire one day then get rehired the next day at the same job for their same pay and collect retirement pay and current job pay both. I got several friends doing it now.
Quote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:07:19 PMQuote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:03:50 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:00:55 PMQuote from: Threebean on July 25, 2015, 02:58:02 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 02:55:34 PMand I don't even have to separate my post with some random characters...Tony is a damn genius!!Now let's not get carried away. Afternoon Duke. Ok...lets just leave it that he is a damn fine grill master....an opinion based on CF 2011....Ah for some tailgating. Talk is to make the tailgating the main event making CF just an excuse to get together. Bailed out this year.I may rejoin the fray this year....And it only cost me a few Louie Viton purses to get the wife's mind right.....lol....One of the reasons I did not go this year is the solo drive in terms of time and of money. As to the purses, as long as you don't have to carry one for her, not a bad trade off.
Quote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:30:15 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:07:19 PMQuote from: cigarbreath on July 25, 2015, 03:03:50 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 03:00:55 PMQuote from: Threebean on July 25, 2015, 02:58:02 PMQuote from: Ateupwithit on July 25, 2015, 02:55:34 PMand I don't even have to separate my post with some random characters...Tony is a damn genius!!Now let's not get carried away. Afternoon Duke. Ok...lets just leave it that he is a damn fine grill master....an opinion based on CF 2011....Ah for some tailgating. Talk is to make the tailgating the main event making CF just an excuse to get together. Bailed out this year.I may rejoin the fray this year....And it only cost me a few Louie Viton purses to get the wife's mind right.....lol....One of the reasons I did not go this year is the solo drive in terms of time and of money. As to the purses, as long as you don't have to carry one for her, not a bad trade off.We can't have that....I need to go....In the words of enterprise rental car, I'll pick you up!!
