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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #285 on: April 27, 2015, 05:35:54 PM »

I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio.  Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.
Breathe in a little bit of that freshly applied perfume!
No odor at all
It's easier that way :)
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #286 on: April 27, 2015, 05:35:54 PM »

I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio.  Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.
Damn good plan!

I love it when a plan comes together.
Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood).  Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!
Sounds more like a Dad birthday surprise to me
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #287 on: April 27, 2015, 05:36:14 PM »

I'm out gents, everyone have a good night!
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #288 on: April 27, 2015, 05:36:48 PM »

On a cigar note: Atlantic has an Ortega sampler with all 8 Wild Bunch cigars for $35
That is a good offering.  Been up a couple of weeks.
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #289 on: April 27, 2015, 05:37:19 PM »

I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio.  Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.
Damn good plan!

I love it when a plan comes together.
Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood).  Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!

Poplar is still a hardwood!  That's all she's asking for. ;)
I wanted to do a cool wood with some nice figure to it, she just wanted it as close to black as it could get(twss)
Well that would leave us to thinking a few things there Woody.
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #290 on: April 27, 2015, 05:54:07 PM »

I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio.  Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.
Damn good plan!

I love it when a plan comes together.



And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB lit
Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.
Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category. 

But using generalities here it is.

Auto Handgun:  Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver:  S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun:   Hunting.  Benelli Super Black Eagle II
                 Self Defense:  FN or Benelli.   870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle:    Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #291 on: April 27, 2015, 05:57:13 PM »

I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience.  If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security.  Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder.  (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.


You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility.  So if I only get three:

Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.

Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military.  So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize.  I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:

A)  They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B)  They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C)  They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D)  I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics.  So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.

But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.

Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.

If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel. 

If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.

Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.

You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons.  If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized.  Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #292 on: April 27, 2015, 05:59:56 PM »

Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.
LOL!
Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.

Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping

Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.

Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass  8)
Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms.     I actually own a new-in-the-box  HK-91 I bought  back in the day, 1984 to be exact.
I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience.  If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security.  Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder.  (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
I only have shotguns, so I'll weigh in.  Best and most reliable, IMO, with modification potential is a Remington 870.  I have a 20 and 12 ga, both magnums, and have never had an issue - 20ga is 12years old and the 12 is 21yo).  I really like my 11-87 for a Semi-Auto Remington, but unnecessary for home defense.  I think they hold 7 rounds, would have to check - also get a neoprene side holder to add 4-6 extra shells close to your disposal. 
I don't have a home defense weapon, just hunting shotguns with normal field specifications.    :D

When I go deer hunting I use a Remington .270 pump and I love it, but I don't have enough experience to give a great review.  I shot it a couple times on the range and once to kill a deer - worked at designed  ;)
Thanks, Shaun.  Have a fun SD trip (isn't that just south of you)? ::)
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #293 on: April 27, 2015, 06:04:53 PM »

Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.
LOL!
Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.

Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping

Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.

Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass  8)
Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms.     I actually own a new-in-the-box  HK-91 I bought  back in the day, 1984 to be exact.
I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience.  If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security.  Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder.  (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
Well, I don't own and haven't shot a rifle in a long time, but let me vote on the other two.  For Shotgun, either the Remington 870 or Mossberg 500, (I went with the Remington), for pistol I like Glock 17, Springfield XDm and FNS.  My choice is the FNS
  Thanks, TDave!  Good info.  These suggestions are reminding me of pieces that have been mentioned in the past.
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #294 on: April 27, 2015, 06:09:45 PM »

It's time to call it a day, folks.  I heard it's nice out so maybe I can squeeze in a cigar.  Adios muchachos.
Later, Baron of Bergen.
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #295 on: April 27, 2015, 06:13:04 PM »

I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio.  Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.
Damn good plan!

I love it when a plan comes together.



And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB lit
Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.
Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category. 

But using generalities here it is.

Auto Handgun:  Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver:  S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun:   Hunting.  Benelli Super Black Eagle II
                 Self Defense:  FN or Benelli.   870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle:    Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
  Thanks, TR!!!
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #296 on: April 27, 2015, 06:16:07 PM »

I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio.  Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.
Damn good plan!

I love it when a plan comes together.



And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB lit
Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.
Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category. 

But using generalities here it is.

Auto Handgun:  Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver:  S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun:   Hunting.  Benelli Super Black Eagle II
                 Self Defense:  FN or Benelli.   870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle:    Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
  Thanks, TR!!!
If going to Baltimore tonight better have one of each with you and lots of ammo they are tearing the place up.  7 cops sent to the hospital already
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #297 on: April 27, 2015, 06:17:02 PM »

I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio.  Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.
Damn good plan!

I love it when a plan comes together.



And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB lit
Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.
Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category. 

Yes, but forcing it to three makes for an interesting challenge.  Since I can't have an appropriate gun for every purpose, how do I compromise?


But using generalities here it is.

Auto Handgun:  Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver:  S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun:   Hunting.  Benelli Super Black Eagle II
                 Self Defense:  FN or Benelli.   870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle:    Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
But you bent the rules of the game.  Only one handgun allowed.  Is it a revolver, or a semi-auto?

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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #298 on: April 27, 2015, 06:18:01 PM »

I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience.  If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security.  Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder.  (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.


You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility.  So if I only get three:

Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.

Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military.  So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize.  I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:

A)  They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B)  They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C)  They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D)  I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics.  So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.

But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.

Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.

If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel. 

If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.

Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.

You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons.  If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized.  Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage.  Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner.  This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
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Re: 4/27/2015
« Reply #299 on: April 27, 2015, 06:19:46 PM »

Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.
LOL!
Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.

Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping

Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.

Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass  8)
Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms.     I actually own a new-in-the-box  HK-91 I bought  back in the day, 1984 to be exact.
I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience.  If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security.  Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder.  (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
Well, I don't own and haven't shot a rifle in a long time, but let me vote on the other two.  For Shotgun, either the Remington 870 or Mossberg 500, (I went with the Remington), for pistol I like Glock 17, Springfield XDm and FNS.  My choice is the FNS
  Thanks, TDave!  Good info.  These suggestions are reminding me of pieces that have been mentioned in the past.
Funny just got an email special on FNS pistols from Palmetto State Armory.
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