Also, OyDave... you missed out on those Room 101 Connies. I really enjoy them, glad I took the risk. I've had two now since I got them last week. Real nice, rich flavors but still keeps the mild-medium strength. Not sure where I'd rank it among my other go-to connies. Not on the same level as the EPC Short Run 2012 or the New Wave Reserva, but I definitely prefer it to the Griffins. Pretty comparable to the Camacho Connie, maybe even slightly better to my tastes. I should've grabbed two boxes at that price. I don't think I'd pay 'full' price of $120ish for them but I wouldn't be disappointed if I'd paid $4-$5 at a cigar shop for one.