Post by: CigarBanter on July 16, 2020, 12:39:15 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 05:27:29 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 06:01:04 AM
Nope, still not Friday.Are you sure?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 06:03:02 AM
Not 100%, no.Nope, still not Friday.Are you sure?
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 06:11:17 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 06:27:40 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 06:28:54 AM
I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19:
Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 07:03:48 AM
I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19:
Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
I wish I hadn't asked since I'm a hypochondriac. Pretty sure I have all of those. Maybe I should go back to bed.
Post by: bluecollar on July 16, 2020, 07:06:27 AM
I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?The most important thing is to check for fever.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 07:34:52 AM
Sounds like a solid plan to me.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19:
Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
I wish I hadn't asked since I'm a hypochondriac. Pretty sure I have all of those. Maybe I should go back to bed.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 07:39:51 AM
I was at my sons' baseball game last evening (the social distancing is in place but I'm not sure how effective it is here).I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?The most important thing is to check for fever.
Anyhoo, one of the coaches' wife (also my sons' teacher) mentions that she had it early on and never got a fever. She was recently tested positive for the antibodies too.
So who knows?
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 07:40:13 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on July 16, 2020, 07:55:57 AM
just another day here.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 07:59:41 AM
There's so much we still don't know about it. But you know, it's just like the flu. Or a hoax. Or hidden in 5G towers.I was at my sons' baseball game last evening (the social distancing is in place but I'm not sure how effective it is here).I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?The most important thing is to check for fever.
Anyhoo, one of the coaches' wife (also my sons' teacher) mentions that she had it early on and never got a fever. She was recently tested positive for the antibodies too.
So who knows?
Post by: FloridaDean on July 16, 2020, 08:19:39 AM
whatever it is it's fucking things up big time.There's so much we still don't know about it. But you know, it's just like the flu. Or a hoax. Or hidden in 5G towers.I was at my sons' baseball game last evening (the social distancing is in place but I'm not sure how effective it is here).I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?The most important thing is to check for fever.
Anyhoo, one of the coaches' wife (also my sons' teacher) mentions that she had it early on and never got a fever. She was recently tested positive for the antibodies too.
So who knows?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 08:25:18 AM
No doubt about it.whatever it is it's fucking things up big time.There's so much we still don't know about it. But you know, it's just like the flu. Or a hoax. Or hidden in 5G towers.I was at my sons' baseball game last evening (the social distancing is in place but I'm not sure how effective it is here).I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?The most important thing is to check for fever.
Anyhoo, one of the coaches' wife (also my sons' teacher) mentions that she had it early on and never got a fever. She was recently tested positive for the antibodies too.
So who knows?
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 08:51:07 AM
I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Indeed it is!
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 08:52:46 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 08:53:31 AM
morning Dave, Tony, and Rick.Hello, Dean. You've been kinda scarce lately. Everything ok?
just another day here.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 08:54:48 AM
Morning TyphoidTony, Dave, Rick and Dean.Good morning to you, ClemsonDave.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 09:07:06 AM
Today’s Highlight in History:
On July 16, 1945, the United States exploded its first experimental atomic bomb in the desert of Alamogordo (ahl-ah-moh-GOHR’-doh), New Mexico; the same day, the heavy cruiser USS Indianapolis left Mare (mar-AY’) Island Naval Shipyard in California on a secret mission to deliver atomic bomb components to Tinian Island in the Marianas.
On this date:
In 1557, Anne of Cleves, who was briefly the fourth wife of England’s King Henry VIII, died in London at age 41.
In 1790, a site along the Potomac River was designated the permanent seat of the United States government; the area became Washington, D.C.
In 1862, Flag Officer David G. Farragut became the first rear admiral in the United States Navy.
In 1964, as he accepted the Republican presidential nomination in San Francisco, Barry M. Goldwater declared that “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice” and that “moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”
In 1969, Apollo 11 blasted off from Cape Kennedy on the first manned mission to the surface of the moon.
In 1973, during the Senate Watergate hearings, former White House aide Alexander P. Butterfield publicly revealed the existence of President Richard Nixon’s secret taping system.
In 1980, former California Gov. Ronald Reagan won the Republican presidential nomination at the party’s convention in Detroit.
In 1994, the first of 21 pieces of comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 smashed into Jupiter, to the joy of astronomers awaiting the celestial fireworks.
In 1999, John F. Kennedy Jr., his wife, Carolyn, and her sister, Lauren Bessette (bih-SEHT’), died when their single-engine plane, piloted by Kennedy, plunged into the Atlantic Ocean near Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts.
In 2002, the Irish Republican Army issued an unprecedented apology for the deaths of “noncombatants” over 30 years of violence in Northern Ireland.
In 2004, Martha Stewart was sentenced to five months in prison and five months of home confinement by a federal judge in New York for lying about a stock sale.
In 2008, Florida resident Casey Anthony, whose 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, had been missing a month, was arrested on charges of child neglect, making false official statements and obstructing a criminal investigation. (Casey Anthony was later acquitted at trial of murdering Caylee, whose skeletal remains were found in December 2008; she was convicted of lying to police.)
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 09:08:21 AM
Five years ago: A gunman unleashed a barrage of fire at a recruiting center and another U.S. military site a few miles apart in Chattanooga, Tennessee, killing four Marines and a sailor before he was shot to death by police; authorities identified the gunman as Kuwaiti-born Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez of Tennessee. A jury in Centennial, Colorado, convicted James Holmes of 165 counts of murder, attempted murder and other charges in the 2012 Aurora movie theater rampage that left 12 people dead.
One year ago: Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, who had unexpectedly emerged as the court’s leading liberal, died in Fort Lauderdale, Florida at the age of 99 after suffering a stroke. The House voted to condemn what it called “racist comments” by President Donald Trump aimed at four congresswomen of color, despite Trump’s insistence that he didn’t have “a racist bone in my body.” After years of silence on the case, federal prosecutors said they would not be bringing charges against a white New York City police officer in the 2014 chokehold death of a Black man, Eric Garner. A federal judge ordered singer R. Kelly to be held without bond, after a prosecutor warned that the singer accused of having sex with minors would pose an extreme danger to young girls if he were to be set free. HBO’s “Game of Thrones” picked up a record-setting 32 Emmy nominations for its eighth and final season. South African musician Johnny Clegg, who had performed in defiance of apartheid, died at the age of 66.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 09:10:24 AM
Former U.S. Attorney General Dick Thornburgh is 88.
Soul singer William Bell is 81.
International Tennis Hall of Famer Margaret Court is 78.
College Football Hall of Famer and football coach Jimmy Johnson is 77.
Violinist Pinchas Zukerman is 72.
Actor-singer Ruben Blades is 72.
Rock composer-musician Stewart Copeland is 68.
Playwright Tony Kushner is 64.
Actress Faye Grant is 63.
Dancer Michael Flatley is 62.
Actress Phoebe Cates is 57.
Actor Paul Hipp is 57.
Actor Daryl “Chill” Mitchell is 55.
Actor-comedian Will Ferrell is 53.
Actor Jonathan Adams is 53.
College and Pro Football Hall of Famer Barry Sanders is 52.
Actress Rain Pryor is 51.
Actor Corey Feldman is 49.
Rock musician Ed Kowalczyk (koh-WAHL’-chek) (Live) is 49.
Rock singer Ryan McCombs (Drowning Pool) is 46.
Actress Jayma Mays is 41.
Actress AnnaLynne McCord is 33.
Actor-singer James Maslow is 30.
Actor Mark Indelicato is 26.
Pop singer-musician Luke Hemmings (5 Seconds to Summer) is 24.
Post by: FloridaDean on July 16, 2020, 09:40:47 AM
yep, all good. just wandering around the countryside.morning Dave, Tony, and Rick.Hello, Dean. You've been kinda scarce lately. Everything ok?
just another day here.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 09:44:55 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on July 16, 2020, 09:47:40 AM
Morning TyphoidTony, Dave, Rick and Dean.morning Dave.
Post by: FloridaDean on July 16, 2020, 09:50:46 AM
Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 09:51:39 AM
Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?The problem is a large group of people DON'T understand that, and think it's some sort of commie plot to do...something. But banning cities from requiring masks is just next-level asinine. If this pandemic has taught us anything, it's that we have yet to reach the depths of human stupidity. Cause every day, the bar is set lower than the day before.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 09:52:32 AM
LALTS, if that's not the depressing truth, I don't know what is.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 09:55:24 AM
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 10:00:32 AM
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Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 10:01:51 AM
Exactly!!! :-\Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 10:03:43 AM
In other news, AC has already kicked on today, so it might be another muggy day ahead. But there's rain in the forecast, so let's hope it actually happens this time.Might be? Already 80 degrees, going up only 10 degrees or so, but humidity creeping back in.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 10:09:00 AM
Well, yeah, might be. Heat doesn't necessarily equal mugginess. But we'll see, maybe if it does rain, it'll cut that down a bit.In other news, AC has already kicked on today, so it might be another muggy day ahead. But there's rain in the forecast, so let's hope it actually happens this time.Might be? Already 80 degrees, going up only 10 degrees or so, but humidity creeping back in.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 10:13:07 AM
In other news, AC has already kicked on today, so it might be another muggy day ahead. But there's rain in the forecast, so let's hope it actually happens this time.They are not predicting any rain in the foreseeable future but it is gray as hell out there. In the meantime, it has cooled off significantly so I turned the a/c off temporarily to give it a rest. Otherwise, I keep raising the temp but the darn thing still seems to be turning itself on. And it feels fine in here.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 10:16:54 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 10:17:30 AM
Morning, muchachos.Hola, Bret.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 10:17:33 AM
I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 10:18:01 AM
Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 10:18:57 AM
The only thing in the world more sensitive than a woman trying on new pants is the thermometer in the house.In other news, AC has already kicked on today, so it might be another muggy day ahead. But there's rain in the forecast, so let's hope it actually happens this time.They are not predicting any rain in the foreseeable future but it is gray as hell out there. In the meantime, it has cooled off significantly so I turned the a/c off temporarily to give it a rest. Otherwise, I keep raising the temp but the darn thing still seems to be turning itself on. And it feels fine in here.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 10:20:18 AM
Indeed, she is awfully fickle.The only thing in the world more sensitive than a woman trying on new pants is the thermometer in the house.In other news, AC has already kicked on today, so it might be another muggy day ahead. But there's rain in the forecast, so let's hope it actually happens this time.They are not predicting any rain in the foreseeable future but it is gray as hell out there. In the meantime, it has cooled off significantly so I turned the a/c off temporarily to give it a rest. Otherwise, I keep raising the temp but the darn thing still seems to be turning itself on. And it feels fine in here.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 10:21:09 AM
And millions are going to die. And millions more if we don't wear masks and inform on our neighbors. Oh, and remove statues.There's so much we still don't know about it. But you know, it's just like the flu. Or a hoax. Or hidden in 5G towers.I was at my sons' baseball game last evening (the social distancing is in place but I'm not sure how effective it is here).I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?The most important thing is to check for fever.
Anyhoo, one of the coaches' wife (also my sons' teacher) mentions that she had it early on and never got a fever. She was recently tested positive for the antibodies too.
So who knows?
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 10:24:19 AM
Sorry I asked.Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 10:30:17 AM
That's the spirit!Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 10:32:50 AM
Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 10:44:01 AM
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 10:49:33 AM
I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 10:57:06 AM
That would be a fate worse than death!Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 10:58:03 AM
Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 10:58:26 AM
But think of all the money he could make at bars, eating gross shit at a bar on a bet.That would be a fate worse than death!Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 10:58:42 AM
...for anyone who has to get within 25 feet of him in the next 24 hours.That would be a fate worse than death!Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 11:01:48 AM
You mean the CDC? Sheeeiiiit. I know those people. I've partied with those people. I've got certificates of appreciation from those people. Sure, they're smart. But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 11:03:27 AM
And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 11:04:57 AM
If your point is to say the people who gave you certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :DYou mean the CDC? Sheeeiiiit. I know those people. I've partied with those people. I've got certificates of appreciation from those people. Sure, they're smart. But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 11:05:36 AM
True. At this point, the best we have is inductive reasoning. It has been scientifically proven that wearing a mask significantly reduces release of particulates. As it appears that aerosolized droplets, and dosing with heavy virus load are the primary spread factors (rather than surface contact) so it is reasonable to extrapolate that even cloth masks significantly reduce that so would reduce the potential for spread.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Additionally, in countries where there has been good compliance with mask wearing (because they don't have Constitutional protection not to), they have much lower numbers than the US and have been able to open up without a significant resurgance.
Besides, unlike taking cloroquine or internal dosing of disinfectants, there is no harm to wearing a mask, so why not?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 11:06:29 AM
Because 'Murica, dammit!True. At this point, the best we have is inductive reasoning. It has been scientifically proven that wearing a mask significantly reduces release of particulates. As it appears that aerosolized droplets, and dosing with heavy virus load are the primary spread factors (rather than surface contact) so it is reasonable to extrapolate that even cloth masks significantly reduce that so would reduce the potential for spread.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Additionally, in countries where there has been good compliance with mask wearing (because they don't have Constitutional protection not to), they have much lower numbers than the US and have been able to open up without a significant resurgance.
Besides, unlike taking cloroquine or internal dosing of disinfectants, there is no harm to wearing a mask, so why not?
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 11:06:58 AM
Now I know why Raz keeps coming back here....If your point is to say the people who gave you a certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :DYou mean the CDC? Sheeeiiiit. I know those people. I've partied with those people. I've got certificates of appreciation from those people. Sure, they're smart. But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
....it's the love!
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 11:08:17 AM
There you go. And GFY.If your point is to say the people who gave you a certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :DYou mean the CDC? Sheeeiiiit. I know those people. I've partied with those people. I've got certificates of appreciation from those people. Sure, they're smart. But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 11:13:16 AM
What can I say, he made a compelling case.Now I know why Raz keeps coming back here....If your point is to say the people who gave you a certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :DYou mean the CDC? Sheeeiiiit. I know those people. I've partied with those people. I've got certificates of appreciation from those people. Sure, they're smart. But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
....it's the love!
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 11:17:46 AM
But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDCD sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 11:19:25 AM
I'll say this, the CDC does know how to party. I have hazy memories of some of the finest clubs in San Francisco, Chicago, and Atlanta.What can I say, he made a compelling case.Now I know why Raz keeps coming back here....If your point is to say the people who gave you a certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :DYou mean the CDC? Sheeeiiiit. I know those people. I've partied with those people. I've got certificates of appreciation from those people. Sure, they're smart. But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
....it's the love!
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 11:21:35 AM
Good that you can vent here. Need an outlet for stress...and that seems to be one thing we're pretty good at.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 11:22:11 AM
Well it is on Uncle Sam's dime.I'll say this, the CDC does know how to party. I have hazy memories of some of the finest clubs in San Francisco, Chicago, and Atlanta.What can I say, he made a compelling case.Now I know why Raz keeps coming back here....If your point is to say the people who gave you a certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :DYou mean the CDC? Sheeeiiiit. I know those people. I've partied with those people. I've got certificates of appreciation from those people. Sure, they're smart. But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
....it's the love!
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 11:27:04 AM
Meeting with Epis doesn't stress me out. Doctors drive me fucking crazy, because they think they are scientists, they are absolutely certain they know everything about everything, and anyone who disagrees with them is automatically stupid. Kinda like LTG.Good that you can vent here. Need an outlet for stress...and that seems to be one thing we're pretty good at.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
But scientists? Scientists are great.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 11:28:09 AM
Which normally would disturb me. But if Uncle Sugar is buying *me* drinks, well that's okay.Well it is on Uncle Sam's dime.I'll say this, the CDC does know how to party. I have hazy memories of some of the finest clubs in San Francisco, Chicago, and Atlanta.What can I say, he made a compelling case.Now I know why Raz keeps coming back here....If your point is to say the people who gave you a certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :DYou mean the CDC? Sheeeiiiit. I know those people. I've partied with those people. I've got certificates of appreciation from those people. Sure, they're smart. But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
....it's the love!
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 11:33:46 AM
There is it! Those used to be much more common around here....ah, the good old days! ;)There you go. And GFY.If your point is to say the people who gave you a certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :DYou mean the CDC? Sheeeiiiit. I know those people. I've partied with those people. I've got certificates of appreciation from those people. Sure, they're smart. But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 11:39:42 AM
Problem with us scientists is that we know a bit, but communicate poorly. In industry, dealing with marketing and management folks who only care about issues with dollar signs attached there is a fundamental disconnect. When scientists feel they are not being heard, they reflexively offer more data which is just the opposite of what their target audience wants. Dealing with politicians with their tremendously short attention span and need for black and white can't be successful with scientists that live in the gray. Biological sciences is the worst of all.Meeting with Epis doesn't stress me out. Doctors drive me fucking crazy, because they think they are scientists, they are absolutely certain they know everything about everything, and anyone who disagrees with them is automatically stupid. Kinda like LTG.Good that you can vent here. Need an outlet for stress...and that seems to be one thing we're pretty good at.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
But scientists? Scientists are great.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 11:47:45 AM
Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDCD sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 11:50:21 AM
LALTS, you say that like you didn't just describe everyone here.Meeting with Epis doesn't stress me out. Doctors drive me fucking crazy, because they think they are scientists, they are absolutely certain they know everything about everything, and anyone who disagrees with them is automatically stupid. Kinda like LTG.Good that you can vent here. Need an outlet for stress...and that seems to be one thing we're pretty good at.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
But scientists? Scientists are great.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 11:50:27 AM
Indeed. And then there's the fact that humans, including scientists, simply can't deal with "Well, it's complicated, and it depends on various factors."Problem with us scientists is that we know a bit, but communicate poorly. In industry, dealing with marketing and management folks who only care about issues with dollar signs attached there is a fundamental disconnect. When scientists feel they are not being heard, they reflexively offer more data which is just the opposite of what their target audience wants. Dealing with politicians with their tremendously short attention span and need for black and white can't be successful with scientists that live in the gray. Biological sciences is the worst of all.Meeting with Epis doesn't stress me out. Doctors drive me fucking crazy, because they think they are scientists, they are absolutely certain they know everything about everything, and anyone who disagrees with them is automatically stupid. Kinda like LTG.Good that you can vent here. Need an outlet for stress...and that seems to be one thing we're pretty good at.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
But scientists? Scientists are great.
I've made some scientists mad over the past few months because I had to tell them our disease-tracking systems weren't scalable to handle a flood of negative results data. "Then why were these systems put in place??" they demand.
"Because these are the systems your colleagues chose, and insisted we implement."
That somehow never goes over well.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 11:51:08 AM
Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 11:53:48 AM
Everyone except me. I'm completely rational. You should take notes.LALTS, you say that like you didn't just describe everyone here.Meeting with Epis doesn't stress me out. Doctors drive me fucking crazy, because they think they are scientists, they are absolutely certain they know everything about everything, and anyone who disagrees with them is automatically stupid. Kinda like LTG.Good that you can vent here. Need an outlet for stress...and that seems to be one thing we're pretty good at.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
But scientists? Scientists are great.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 12:01:22 PM
You're probably right, that one guy on Youtube who says COVID is a liberal hoax is probably onto something. Perhaps one day we'll remember MILFLover69 alongside Galileo, Einstein, Newton and Hawking. :)Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 12:01:50 PM
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 12:02:26 PM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 12:05:05 PM
Morning/afternoon 'ronawarriors.Must've hit all the reds and then some this morning. Morning, LateToTheShowMark.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 12:05:07 PM
Or not. But there were a lot of people in Galileo's time that essentially considered him the MILFLover69 of his time.You're probably right, that one guy on Youtube who says COVID is a liberal hoax is probably onto something. Perhaps one day we'll remember MILFLover69 alongside Galileo, Einstein, Newton and Hawking. :)Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: FloridaDean on July 16, 2020, 12:08:49 PM
just thinning the herd.And millions are going to die. And millions more if we don't wear masks and inform on our neighbors. Oh, and remove statues.There's so much we still don't know about it. But you know, it's just like the flu. Or a hoax. Or hidden in 5G towers.I was at my sons' baseball game last evening (the social distancing is in place but I'm not sure how effective it is here).I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?The most important thing is to check for fever.
Anyhoo, one of the coaches' wife (also my sons' teacher) mentions that she had it early on and never got a fever. She was recently tested positive for the antibodies too.
So who knows?
afternoon Brett.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 12:11:21 PM
It tasted great. The egg yolk was nice and runny. Am I in the clear? Headache is duller but still there. I really need to rest my eyes for a bit.Sorry I asked.Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: FloridaDean on July 16, 2020, 12:15:24 PM
Morning/afternoon 'ronawarriors.afternoon Mark.
Post by: FloridaDean on July 16, 2020, 12:19:04 PM
I get all my professional information from FaceBook. they were so great as political analysts when Trump was running for office, plus climate change experts when the overseas rugrat started crying, and the money I saved by the financial advice they gave me when the stock market tanked. I'm telling you, those guys know it ALL. 🤣You're probably right, that one guy on Youtube who says COVID is a liberal hoax is probably onto something. Perhaps one day we'll remember MILFLover69 alongside Galileo, Einstein, Newton and Hawking. :)Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 12:19:58 PM
Actually all greens on the way in but had an off-site meeting right off the bat.Morning/afternoon 'ronawarriors.Must've hit all the reds and then some this morning. Morning, LateToTheShowMark.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 12:21:27 PM
Man, glad to see raz running up the post counts.We might make it to 8 today.
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 12:21:45 PM
You should probably work from home for the next 14 days. Oh wait....It tasted great. The egg yolk was nice and runny. Am I in the clear? Headache is duller but still there. I really need to rest my eyes for a bit.Sorry I asked.Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 12:26:45 PM
Not true. I always admit that I don't know shit.LALTS, you say that like you didn't just describe everyone here.Meeting with Epis doesn't stress me out. Doctors drive me fucking crazy, because they think they are scientists, they are absolutely certain they know everything about everything, and anyone who disagrees with them is automatically stupid. Kinda like LTG.Good that you can vent here. Need an outlet for stress...and that seems to be one thing we're pretty good at.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
But scientists? Scientists are great.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 12:29:01 PM
Morning/afternoon 'ronawarriors.Greetings, Mr. Bean.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 12:32:57 PM
Good plan. Should I wear a mask?You should probably work from home for the next 14 days. Oh wait....It tasted great. The egg yolk was nice and runny. Am I in the clear? Headache is duller but still there. I really need to rest my eyes for a bit.Sorry I asked.Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 12:34:31 PM
Of course, silly man!Good plan. Should I wear a mask?You should probably work from home for the next 14 days. Oh wait....It tasted great. The egg yolk was nice and runny. Am I in the clear? Headache is duller but still there. I really need to rest my eyes for a bit.Sorry I asked.Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 01:16:16 PM
Oof. Welcome to Thursday, indeed.Actually all greens on the way in but had an off-site meeting right off the bat.Morning/afternoon 'ronawarriors.Must've hit all the reds and then some this morning. Morning, LateToTheShowMark.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 01:17:36 PM
Sounds to me like yesterday's lack of sleep is catching up with you. I rarely get headaches, but operating on no sleep is a surefire way for me to get one.It tasted great. The egg yolk was nice and runny. Am I in the clear? Headache is duller but still there. I really need to rest my eyes for a bit.Sorry I asked.Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?Yes, actually. Any gastrointestinal distress?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 01:18:56 PM
Well, if in 50 years we find out COVID was a result of 5G towers or Hillary, then I owe MILFLover69 an apology.Or not. But there were a lot of people in Galileo's time that essentially considered him the MILFLover69 of his time.You're probably right, that one guy on Youtube who says COVID is a liberal hoax is probably onto something. Perhaps one day we'll remember MILFLover69 alongside Galileo, Einstein, Newton and Hawking. :)Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 01:35:16 PM
We should probably look into his or her background first though before erecting that statue.Well, if in 50 years we find out COVID was a result of 5G towers or Hillary, then I owe MILFLover69 an apology.Or not. But there were a lot of people in Galileo's time that essentially considered him the MILFLover69 of his time.You're probably right, that one guy on Youtube who says COVID is a liberal hoax is probably onto something. Perhaps one day we'll remember MILFLover69 alongside Galileo, Einstein, Newton and Hawking. :)Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 01:36:08 PM
With a handle like MILFLover69, I suspect he's perennially erect.We should probably look into his or her background first though before erecting that statue.Well, if in 50 years we find out COVID was a result of 5G towers or Hillary, then I owe MILFLover69 an apology.Or not. But there were a lot of people in Galileo's time that essentially considered him the MILFLover69 of his time.You're probably right, that one guy on Youtube who says COVID is a liberal hoax is probably onto something. Perhaps one day we'll remember MILFLover69 alongside Galileo, Einstein, Newton and Hawking. :)Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 01:42:40 PM
I don't know, sounds like classic overcompensation to me.With a handle like MILFLover69, I suspect he's perennially erect.We should probably look into his or her background first though before erecting that statue.Well, if in 50 years we find out COVID was a result of 5G towers or Hillary, then I owe MILFLover69 an apology.Or not. But there were a lot of people in Galileo's time that essentially considered him the MILFLover69 of his time.You're probably right, that one guy on Youtube who says COVID is a liberal hoax is probably onto something. Perhaps one day we'll remember MILFLover69 alongside Galileo, Einstein, Newton and Hawking. :)Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 01:48:24 PM
Sure. But I expect the closest he's come actually loving a MILF is browsing the internet one-handed.I don't know, sounds like classic overcompensation to me.With a handle like MILFLover69, I suspect he's perennially erect.We should probably look into his or her background first though before erecting that statue.Well, if in 50 years we find out COVID was a result of 5G towers or Hillary, then I owe MILFLover69 an apology.Or not. But there were a lot of people in Galileo's time that essentially considered him the MILFLover69 of his time.You're probably right, that one guy on Youtube who says COVID is a liberal hoax is probably onto something. Perhaps one day we'll remember MILFLover69 alongside Galileo, Einstein, Newton and Hawking. :)Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 02:04:36 PM
Sure. But I expect the closest he's come actually loving a MILF is browsing the internet one-handed.I don't know, sounds like classic overcompensation to me.With a handle like MILFLover69, I suspect he's perennially erect.We should probably look into his or her background first though before erecting that statue.Well, if in 50 years we find out COVID was a result of 5G towers or Hillary, then I owe MILFLover69 an apology.Or not. But there were a lot of people in Galileo's time that essentially considered him the MILFLover69 of his time.You're probably right, that one guy on Youtube who says COVID is a liberal hoax is probably onto something. Perhaps one day we'll remember MILFLover69 alongside Galileo, Einstein, Newton and Hawking. :)Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on July 16, 2020, 02:26:44 PM
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 02:28:20 PM
YABBADABBAHAZZUH!Oooga-boooga.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 02:29:32 PM
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 02:32:56 PM
Nope, still not Friday.Might be for me. I might get to take tomorrow off.
Okay, probably not.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 02:36:03 PM
Meanwhile, out here in WAhooland, I had to fire up the gas fireplace to take the edge off the family room this morning.In other news, AC has already kicked on today, so it might be another muggy day ahead. But there's rain in the forecast, so let's hope it actually happens this time.Might be? Already 80 degrees, going up only 10 degrees or so, but humidity creeping back in.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 02:42:52 PM
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 02:42:55 PM
pulu si bagumbaYABBADABBAHAZZUH!Oooga-boooga.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 02:44:42 PM
Gesundheit.pulu si bagumbaYABBADABBAHAZZUH!Oooga-boooga.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 02:47:33 PM
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 02:49:28 PM
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 02:55:15 PM
One of the relics on my wish-list is a replica of a Colt Model 1860 Army. It is widely considered to be one of the most beautiful firearms ever designed. But note that here I said relic, not firearm. The government has declared that this is NOT, in fact, a firearm, and not by any definition a gun. It is a "curio or relic." Bruce Springsteen used to carry one of these on occasion in his pre-fame days, because, y'know, he lived in Jersey. And Jersey doesn't like guns. Anyway, I'm bidding on this one in an auction. I'm lowballing. Hoping I can get it cheap.I'm curious. If a REAL Colt Model 1860 Army were for sale, what would be the asking price?
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 03:08:15 PM
Asking price could be anything. Market price for the real thing from the 1860s, depending on condition and provenance, starts from about a grand, and jumps into the stratosphere for unfired weapons or weapons that belonged to historical figures.One of the relics on my wish-list is a replica of a Colt Model 1860 Army. It is widely considered to be one of the most beautiful firearms ever designed. But note that here I said relic, not firearm. The government has declared that this is NOT, in fact, a firearm, and not by any definition a gun. It is a "curio or relic." Bruce Springsteen used to carry one of these on occasion in his pre-fame days, because, y'know, he lived in Jersey. And Jersey doesn't like guns. Anyway, I'm bidding on this one in an auction. I'm lowballing. Hoping I can get it cheap.I'm curious. If a REAL Colt Model 1860 Army were for sale, what would be the asking price?
But you can find one for about $1000.
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 03:13:23 PM
And what is the bid up to on the pretend one?Asking price could be anything. Market price for the real thing from the 1860s, depending on condition and provenance, starts from about a grand, and jumps into the stratosphere for unfired weapons or weapons that belonged to historical figures.One of the relics on my wish-list is a replica of a Colt Model 1860 Army. It is widely considered to be one of the most beautiful firearms ever designed. But note that here I said relic, not firearm. The government has declared that this is NOT, in fact, a firearm, and not by any definition a gun. It is a "curio or relic." Bruce Springsteen used to carry one of these on occasion in his pre-fame days, because, y'know, he lived in Jersey. And Jersey doesn't like guns. Anyway, I'm bidding on this one in an auction. I'm lowballing. Hoping I can get it cheap.I'm curious. If a REAL Colt Model 1860 Army were for sale, what would be the asking price?
But you can find one for about $1000.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 03:16:27 PM
Man, glad to see raz running up the post counts.Think he was inspired by hitting 12K.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 03:17:24 PM
I'll take your word for it. Don't need any proof on this one.With a handle like MILFLover69, I suspect he's perennially erect.We should probably look into his or her background first though before erecting that statue.Well, if in 50 years we find out COVID was a result of 5G towers or Hillary, then I owe MILFLover69 an apology.Or not. But there were a lot of people in Galileo's time that essentially considered him the MILFLover69 of his time.You're probably right, that one guy on Youtube who says COVID is a liberal hoax is probably onto something. Perhaps one day we'll remember MILFLover69 alongside Galileo, Einstein, Newton and Hawking. :)Somebody should have explained that to Galileo Galilei.Inductive reasoning is a great and useful tool, and quite frankly, it would be great if more people utilized it. But if you use it, and your every conclusion flies in the face of people with decades of experience in fighting disease, my only suggestion is that you examine your reasoning process. Because it's likely flawed.But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive.And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people.You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks. Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom. Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.
People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic. But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.
And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else? Forget it.
Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks. I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.
Science is more like radar than video. There's something out there. Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
TD has it right, LTG. Stick to inductive reasoning. The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory. Inductive reasoning is good. "The CDC sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 03:18:22 PM
Okay, we gotta push this over to page 8. Initiating review mode for postwhoring opportunities.Your technique is definitely improving!
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 03:20:35 PM
Asking for a friend?And what is the bid up to on the pretend one?Asking price could be anything. Market price for the real thing from the 1860s, depending on condition and provenance, starts from about a grand, and jumps into the stratosphere for unfired weapons or weapons that belonged to historical figures.One of the relics on my wish-list is a replica of a Colt Model 1860 Army. It is widely considered to be one of the most beautiful firearms ever designed. But note that here I said relic, not firearm. The government has declared that this is NOT, in fact, a firearm, and not by any definition a gun. It is a "curio or relic." Bruce Springsteen used to carry one of these on occasion in his pre-fame days, because, y'know, he lived in Jersey. And Jersey doesn't like guns. Anyway, I'm bidding on this one in an auction. I'm lowballing. Hoping I can get it cheap.I'm curious. If a REAL Colt Model 1860 Army were for sale, what would be the asking price?
But you can find one for about $1000.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 03:28:39 PM
YABBADABBAHAZZUH!I like that one.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 03:33:14 PM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 03:44:53 PM
Aganorsa Connie to go along with a Dark and Stormy....missing Bermuda.Well done, ClemsonDave.
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 04:04:08 PM
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Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 04:36:33 PM
$100And what is the bid up to on the pretend one?Asking price could be anything. Market price for the real thing from the 1860s, depending on condition and provenance, starts from about a grand, and jumps into the stratosphere for unfired weapons or weapons that belonged to historical figures.One of the relics on my wish-list is a replica of a Colt Model 1860 Army. It is widely considered to be one of the most beautiful firearms ever designed. But note that here I said relic, not firearm. The government has declared that this is NOT, in fact, a firearm, and not by any definition a gun. It is a "curio or relic." Bruce Springsteen used to carry one of these on occasion in his pre-fame days, because, y'know, he lived in Jersey. And Jersey doesn't like guns. Anyway, I'm bidding on this one in an auction. I'm lowballing. Hoping I can get it cheap.I'm curious. If a REAL Colt Model 1860 Army were for sale, what would be the asking price?
But you can find one for about $1000.
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 04:37:42 PM
Nah, it's just the first day since middle of February that hasn't been a total mindfuck.Man, glad to see raz running up the post counts.Think he was inspired by hitting 12K.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 04:40:37 PM
And we made it. Oy? You're welcome.It used to be 18...😒
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 05:01:38 PM
My God, you're right. I remembered it as 8. Sheesh.And we made it. Oy? You're welcome.It used to be 18...😒
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 05:10:58 PM
I'm happy with 8...My God, you're right. I remembered it as 8. Sheesh.And we made it. Oy? You're welcome.It used to be 18...😒
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 05:11:56 PM
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 05:20:22 PM
Well, no way I'm going to try to push 9 more pages by myself.(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/dc/5f/28dc5f0daff6615a5035f2ec47c2fba3.gif)
Post by: razgueado on July 16, 2020, 05:21:45 PM
There is no 'I' in team, but there's a 'Y' in GFY.Well, no way I'm going to try to push 9 more pages by myself.(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/dc/5f/28dc5f0daff6615a5035f2ec47c2fba3.gif)
Post by: Oyam18 on July 16, 2020, 05:51:38 PM
niceAnd we made it. Oy? You're welcome.It used to be 18...😒
Post by: Oyam18 on July 16, 2020, 05:52:19 PM
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 05:56:23 PM
What would be a good price on papas fritas? SBC has 10/$50Haven't seen those in forever. Seems like a decent price by today's standards.
Post by: Oyam18 on July 16, 2020, 05:57:39 PM
not bad with free shipping and one free Herrera EstelíWhat would be a good price on papas fritas? SBC has 10/$50Haven't seen those in forever. Seems like a decent price by today's standards.
Post by: Oyam18 on July 16, 2020, 05:58:46 PM
but it’s still $5 for a little cigar, said the cheapo oynot bad with free shipping and one free Herrera EstelíWhat would be a good price on papas fritas? SBC has 10/$50Haven't seen those in forever. Seems like a decent price by today's standards.
Post by: Threebean on July 16, 2020, 06:19:41 PM
Indeed. Doesn't meet cheapy cheapo standards, but size doesn't matter, or so I've been told.but it’s still $5 for a little cigar, said the cheapo oynot bad with free shipping and one free Herrera EstelíWhat would be a good price on papas fritas? SBC has 10/$50Haven't seen those in forever. Seems like a decent price by today's standards.
Post by: Oyam18 on July 16, 2020, 06:19:59 PM
i agree, just hold off till the Cloud Hopper goes on sale. 👍but it’s still $5 for a little cigar, said the cheapo oynot bad with free shipping and one free Herrera EstelíWhat would be a good price on papas fritas? SBC has 10/$50Haven't seen those in forever. Seems like a decent price by today's standards.
Post by: bluecollar on July 16, 2020, 07:37:14 PM
Post by: bluecollar on July 16, 2020, 07:38:11 PM
Found a MF hiding. These are gone now for sure.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200716/abd137fc35ffa0008b9832e16662d820.jpg)
Post by: Oyam18 on July 16, 2020, 08:29:25 PM
Wowzer busy littleMurder Hornets 🐝
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on July 16, 2020, 09:29:33 PM
I feel like a real long time ago you could get 10/$35. But I've completely lost track. I can ask Charlie because he's good that way.not bad with free shipping and one free Herrera EstelíWhat would be a good price on papas fritas? SBC has 10/$50Haven't seen those in forever. Seems like a decent price by today's standards.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 09:50:32 PM
The Page is offering them up now. Some decent prices (relatively speaking)
Found a MF hiding. These are gone now for sure.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200716/abd137fc35ffa0008b9832e16662d820.jpg)
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 09:51:27 PM
Back about 2-3 years.I feel like a real long time ago you could get 10/$35. But I've completely lost track. I can ask Charlie because he's good that way.not bad with free shipping and one free Herrera EstelíWhat would be a good price on papas fritas? SBC has 10/$50Haven't seen those in forever. Seems like a decent price by today's standards.
Post by: Travellin Dave on July 16, 2020, 09:53:18 PM