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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2020, 10:44:01 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2020, 10:49:33 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.
I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2020, 10:57:06 AM »

I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?
Yes, actually.  Any gastrointestinal distress?
Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.
That would be a fate worse than death!
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2020, 10:58:03 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.
Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people. 

Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks.  I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.

Science is more like radar than video.  There's something out there.  Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.

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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2020, 10:58:26 AM »

I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?
Yes, actually.  Any gastrointestinal distress?
Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.
That would be a fate worse than death!
But think of all the money he could make at bars, eating gross shit at a bar on a bet.
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2020, 10:58:42 AM »

I woke up with this pounding headache and it doesn't seem to be going away. Is that a COVID symptom?
Yes, actually.  Any gastrointestinal distress?
Always! But I'll have turkey egg and cheese on a croissant now and that should take care of it. I'll only worry if I can't taste it.
That would be a fate worse than death!
...for anyone who has to get within 25 feet of him in the next 24 hours.
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2020, 11:01:48 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.
I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.
You mean the CDC?  Sheeeiiiit.  I know those people.  I've partied with those people.  I've got certificates of appreciation from those people.  Sure, they're smart.  But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming. 
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #52 on: July 16, 2020, 11:03:27 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.
Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people. 

Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks.  I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.

Science is more like radar than video.  There's something out there.  Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #53 on: July 16, 2020, 11:04:57 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.
I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.
You mean the CDC?  Sheeeiiiit.  I know those people.  I've partied with those people.  I've got certificates of appreciation from those people.  Sure, they're smart.  But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.
If your point is to say the people who gave you certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :D
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #54 on: July 16, 2020, 11:05:36 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
True.  At this point, the best we have is inductive reasoning.  It has been scientifically proven that wearing a mask significantly reduces release of particulates.  As it appears that aerosolized droplets, and dosing with heavy virus load are the primary spread factors (rather than surface contact) so it is reasonable to extrapolate that even cloth masks significantly reduce that so would reduce the potential for spread.

Additionally, in countries where there has been good compliance with mask wearing (because they don't have Constitutional protection not to), they have much lower numbers than the US and have been able to open up without a significant resurgance. 

Besides, unlike taking cloroquine or internal dosing of disinfectants, there is no harm to wearing a mask, so why not?
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #55 on: July 16, 2020, 11:06:29 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
True.  At this point, the best we have is inductive reasoning.  It has been scientifically proven that wearing a mask significantly reduces release of particulates.  As it appears that aerosolized droplets, and dosing with heavy virus load are the primary spread factors (rather than surface contact) so it is reasonable to extrapolate that even cloth masks significantly reduce that so would reduce the potential for spread.

Additionally, in countries where there has been good compliance with mask wearing (because they don't have Constitutional protection not to), they have much lower numbers than the US and have been able to open up without a significant resurgance. 

Besides, unlike taking cloroquine or internal dosing of disinfectants, there is no harm to wearing a mask, so why not?
Because 'Murica, dammit!
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #56 on: July 16, 2020, 11:06:58 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.
I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.
You mean the CDC?  Sheeeiiiit.  I know those people.  I've partied with those people.  I've got certificates of appreciation from those people.  Sure, they're smart.  But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.
If your point is to say the people who gave you a certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :D
Now I know why Raz keeps coming back here....
....it's the love!
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #57 on: July 16, 2020, 11:08:17 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.
I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.
You mean the CDC?  Sheeeiiiit.  I know those people.  I've partied with those people.  I've got certificates of appreciation from those people.  Sure, they're smart.  But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.
If your point is to say the people who gave you a certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :D
There you go.  And GFY.
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #58 on: July 16, 2020, 11:13:16 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.
I almost wish there was a Center for a group of these people whose advice we could listen to in this situation. Oh well.
You mean the CDC?  Sheeeiiiit.  I know those people.  I've partied with those people.  I've got certificates of appreciation from those people.  Sure, they're smart.  But if you think the CDC is some rarified brain trust, you're dreaming.
If your point is to say the people who gave you a certificates of appreciation aren't that smart, I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking. :D
Now I know why Raz keeps coming back here....
....it's the love!
What can I say, he made a compelling case.
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Re: 7/16/2020
« Reply #59 on: July 16, 2020, 11:17:46 AM »

Now that it seems everyone understands the importance of wearing masks to prevent COVID spread, the Gov. of Georgia has banned cities from requiring masks.  Is there any wonder this thing is out of control?
Well, to be perfectly scientific about it, there is no evidence yet that wearing masks cuts infection rates for COVID-19, nor for whom.  Inductive reasoning suggests it likely will, under the right circumstances, but there's no evidence.

People like to drone on about doctors and nurses wearing masks as if that's just the very pinnacle of logic.  But there is a protocol for medical professionals wearing masks, without which the mask not only fails to protect against infection, it in fact becomes a vector for it. Most people have no idea what the protocol is.

And as for your average bandanna protecting you or anyone else?  Forget it.
You make some solid points to prove Dean's post. Upon further review, I'm going to continue seeking perfectly scientific advice from actual scientists and people who, you know, study diseases and how to control them.
Oh indeed, I just finished my first of four meetings today with those kinda people. 

Just remember that it was scientists who told us masks wouldn't help before they told us to wear masks.  I won't make any jokes about John Kerry here, because he's a politician and we expect stupid from politicians.

Science is more like radar than video.  There's something out there.  Could be an incoming nuke, might be a flock of geese.
And I'll take the people who see something coming on the radar and try to figure out what it might be over the people who don't even bother to turn their radar on in the first place.
But you'll forgive that people are skeptical of those who have a government-instituted requirement that they justify the taxpayer dollars that they receive. 

TD has it right, LTG.  Stick to inductive reasoning.  The pronouncements of the the CDC or WHO or the government or whatever have a long track record of being inaccurate and contradictory.  Inductive reasoning is good.  "The CDCD sez so!!" doesn't mean shit.
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