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[razgueado]

Time to head out. Hazzuh!

Later Golf

Golf is slipping up on 10K

Later Golf.  Be sure to prepare that stellar 10K post!

Please don't pull a Raz and PWYAO.

I got him all riled up now so he should slow down for a while.

Who, me?  Nah, I'm not riled.  I got you riled. ;-)

Nah, I just went and grabbed a nap.  Now to catch up on the ammo banter.

[South Carolina Redfish]

@ Raz - get-um while congress is on vacation!

Not a bad deal these days, at Target Sports USA

Federal 5.56mm XM855 NATO 62 Grain FMJ 420 rds on Stripper Clips in Ammo Can

Special $210.00
FREE SHIPPING INCLUDED

My rifle has a slow twist (1:9), so the higher price for the heavier bullet doesn't buy me anything.  I stock up when I get the 55gr at around $0.40@.  My next such rifle will have a faster twist and a longer barrel.

Just re-barrel it.

But then I don't have an excuse to buy another gun.

But you don't have the money for a new AR anyway so just what difference does it make at this time?

I thought "hunting rifle" was next on the list... not that you couldn't hunt with another AR. Does he already have a .308? 

Oh, and I'm not terribly interested in a .308.

You were not interested in a full size .40 either so you bought two.

I didn't say I wasn't interested in it, only that I didn't NEED it. 

I don't need a .308, but I'm also not particularly interested in that cartridge.

A .308 is a fundamental member of every Murican arsenal.

Used to be. It's outdated technology now.

Wonder why they still sell so many of them in modern rifles

Same reason they still sell so many 1911's in 45acp.  Tradition, heritage, aesthetics, and personal preference. A 308 will get the job done, just not something I'm personally exercised about. Personal preference.

And BTW, I can afford whatever I decide is important to me. The 308 just isn't that important to me right now. But that could change tomorrow, just like it did last week for a couple of FNS-40's.

I was waiting on that and sure enough you got it backwards .  The correct answer would be "for the same reason they sell so many Modern Guns in .45 ACP".

For the life of me, I don't quite understand why they have so many different sizes anyway. Two maybe three sizes for pistols, the same for rifles, two for shotguns and be done with it.  Easier to get ammo, less hassles.

Marketing department that's why.

Someone always wants to build a better mouse trap, and there is always someone who will want to sell it. 

Since Bret kinda brought up Cooper, the short(er) answer is "why not?"

The reason why not is cross compatibility.  PITA if you pick up one gun and get the ammo or cartridge for another.
The more options there are, the greater for mixups.

Like the time my son and I were going out skeet shooting and only realized out on the range that he brought 20g shells for his 12g gun.

Stop the common sense approach to hobbies!   Sheesh, what if they only made 3 kinds of cigars, after all they all just make smoke.

Clearly apples and oranges grumpyTexDave.
Go home, we'll entertain the company until you get back on.

OK, I am gone but just tell them I said GFY's.

[South Carolina Redfish]

Time to head out. Hazzuh!

Later Golf

Golf is slipping up on 10K

Later Golf.  Be sure to prepare that stellar 10K post!

Please don't pull a Raz and PWYAO.

I got him all riled up now so he should slow down for a while.

Who, me?  Nah, I'm not riled.  I got you riled. ;-)

Nah, I just went and grabbed a nap.  Now to catch up on the ammo banter.

Good luck, Travellin Dave wants to limit us to 3 selections.......

[razgueado]

@ Raz - get-um while congress is on vacation!

Not a bad deal these days, at Target Sports USA

Federal 5.56mm XM855 NATO 62 Grain FMJ 420 rds on Stripper Clips in Ammo Can

Special $210.00
FREE SHIPPING INCLUDED

My rifle has a slow twist (1:9), so the higher price for the heavier bullet doesn't buy me anything.  I stock up when I get the 55gr at around $0.40@.  My next such rifle will have a faster twist and a longer barrel.

Just re-barrel it.

But then I don't have an excuse to buy another gun.

But you don't have the money for a new AR anyway so just what difference does it make at this time?

I thought "hunting rifle" was next on the list... not that you couldn't hunt with another AR. Does he already have a .308? 

Oh, and I'm not terribly interested in a .308.

You were not interested in a full size .40 either so you bought two.

I didn't say I wasn't interested in it, only that I didn't NEED it. 

I don't need a .308, but I'm also not particularly interested in that cartridge.

A .308 is a fundamental member of every Murican arsenal.

And here I thought it was muskets....

Nah. Bret's more of a 'trench' guy, so maybe something from WWI... 

Oh now that's just cold.

And it was a "butt," not a trench.  Took a lawyer to teach me that.

[razgueado]

@ Raz - get-um while congress is on vacation!

Not a bad deal these days, at Target Sports USA

Federal 5.56mm XM855 NATO 62 Grain FMJ 420 rds on Stripper Clips in Ammo Can

Special $210.00
FREE SHIPPING INCLUDED

My rifle has a slow twist (1:9), so the higher price for the heavier bullet doesn't buy me anything.  I stock up when I get the 55gr at around $0.40@.  My next such rifle will have a faster twist and a longer barrel.

Just re-barrel it.

But then I don't have an excuse to buy another gun.

But you don't have the money for a new AR anyway so just what difference does it make at this time?

I thought "hunting rifle" was next on the list... not that you couldn't hunt with another AR. Does he already have a .308? 

Oh, and I'm not terribly interested in a .308.

You were not interested in a full size .40 either so you bought two.

I didn't say I wasn't interested in it, only that I didn't NEED it. 

I don't need a .308, but I'm also not particularly interested in that cartridge.

A .308 is a fundamental member of every Murican arsenal.

And here I thought it was muskets....

Nah. Bret's more of a 'trench' guy, so maybe something from WWI... 

LOL, that would  be a 30-06 wouldn't it?  Bet he dose not have one of those either (but neither do I anymore,  had one and sold it)

I don't. 

[South Carolina Redfish]

Time to head out. Hazzuh!

Later Golf

Golf is slipping up on 10K

Later Golf.  Be sure to prepare that stellar 10K post!

Please don't pull a Raz and PWYAO.

I got him all riled up now so he should slow down for a while.

Who, me?  Nah, I'm not riled.  I got you riled. ;-)

Nah, I just went and grabbed a nap.  Now to catch up on the ammo banter.

I'm not riled up I already got plenty of guns and bullets and then some just like fuk'n with you to pass the time at work.

[South Carolina Redfish]

@ Raz - get-um while congress is on vacation!

Not a bad deal these days, at Target Sports USA

Federal 5.56mm XM855 NATO 62 Grain FMJ 420 rds on Stripper Clips in Ammo Can

Special $210.00
FREE SHIPPING INCLUDED

My rifle has a slow twist (1:9), so the higher price for the heavier bullet doesn't buy me anything.  I stock up when I get the 55gr at around $0.40@.  My next such rifle will have a faster twist and a longer barrel.

Just re-barrel it.

But then I don't have an excuse to buy another gun.

But you don't have the money for a new AR anyway so just what difference does it make at this time?

I thought "hunting rifle" was next on the list... not that you couldn't hunt with another AR. Does he already have a .308? 

Oh, and I'm not terribly interested in a .308.

You were not interested in a full size .40 either so you bought two.

I didn't say I wasn't interested in it, only that I didn't NEED it. 

I don't need a .308, but I'm also not particularly interested in that cartridge.

A .308 is a fundamental member of every Murican arsenal.

And here I thought it was muskets....

Nah. Bret's more of a 'trench' guy, so maybe something from WWI... 

Oh now that's just cold.

And it was a "butt," not a trench.  Took a lawyer to teach me that.

We knew you were a "butt" but just settled for trench.

[South Carolina Redfish]

Markets Closed

DOW  +78 @ 17,918

[South Carolina Redfish]

AS they say at the Page - Gone!

[razgueado]

@ Raz - get-um while congress is on vacation!

Not a bad deal these days, at Target Sports USA

Federal 5.56mm XM855 NATO 62 Grain FMJ 420 rds on Stripper Clips in Ammo Can

Special $210.00
FREE SHIPPING INCLUDED

My rifle has a slow twist (1:9), so the higher price for the heavier bullet doesn't buy me anything.  I stock up when I get the 55gr at around $0.40@.  My next such rifle will have a faster twist and a longer barrel.

Just re-barrel it.

But then I don't have an excuse to buy another gun.

But you don't have the money for a new AR anyway so just what difference does it make at this time?

I thought "hunting rifle" was next on the list... not that you couldn't hunt with another AR. Does he already have a .308? 

Oh, and I'm not terribly interested in a .308.

You were not interested in a full size .40 either so you bought two.

I didn't say I wasn't interested in it, only that I didn't NEED it. 

I don't need a .308, but I'm also not particularly interested in that cartridge.

A .308 is a fundamental member of every Murican arsenal.

Used to be. It's outdated technology now.

Wonder why they still sell so many of them in modern rifles

Same reason they still sell so many 1911's in 45acp.  Tradition, heritage, aesthetics, and personal preference. A 308 will get the job done, just not something I'm personally exercised about. Personal preference.

And BTW, I can afford whatever I decide is important to me. The 308 just isn't that important to me right now. But that could change tomorrow, just like it did last week for a couple of FNS-40's.

I was waiting on that and sure enough you got it backwards .  The correct answer would be "for the same reason they sell so many Modern Guns in .45 ACP".

For the life of me, I don't quite understand why they have so many different sizes anyway. Two maybe three sizes for pistols, the same for rifles, two for shotguns and be done with it.  Easier to get ammo, less hassles.

Calculus. 

[razgueado]

@ Raz - get-um while congress is on vacation!

Not a bad deal these days, at Target Sports USA

Federal 5.56mm XM855 NATO 62 Grain FMJ 420 rds on Stripper Clips in Ammo Can

Special $210.00
FREE SHIPPING INCLUDED

My rifle has a slow twist (1:9), so the higher price for the heavier bullet doesn't buy me anything.  I stock up when I get the 55gr at around $0.40@.  My next such rifle will have a faster twist and a longer barrel.

Just re-barrel it.

But then I don't have an excuse to buy another gun.

But you don't have the money for a new AR anyway so just what difference does it make at this time?

I thought "hunting rifle" was next on the list... not that you couldn't hunt with another AR. Does he already have a .308? 

Oh, and I'm not terribly interested in a .308.

You were not interested in a full size .40 either so you bought two.

I didn't say I wasn't interested in it, only that I didn't NEED it. 

I don't need a .308, but I'm also not particularly interested in that cartridge.

A .308 is a fundamental member of every Murican arsenal.

Used to be. It's outdated technology now.

Wonder why they still sell so many of them in modern rifles

Same reason they still sell so many 1911's in 45acp.  Tradition, heritage, aesthetics, and personal preference. A 308 will get the job done, just not something I'm personally exercised about. Personal preference.

And BTW, I can afford whatever I decide is important to me. The 308 just isn't that important to me right now. But that could change tomorrow, just like it did last week for a couple of FNS-40's.

I was waiting on that and sure enough you got it backwards .  The correct answer would be "for the same reason they sell so many Modern Guns in .45 ACP".

I was covering the fact that both the 1911 and the 45acp are dated.

Some mighty modern upgrades to .45 acp ammo, hell I have gone back to carrying .45's almost all the time now - but not 1911's.

Of course.  But if bullet technology can keep the bullet together and get it to stop inside the target, then there are advantages to driving a smaller bullet faster - most important of which, you can carry more ammo for weight and the bullets are cheaper.  But then there's the eternal debate of how much ammo does one need for self defense?  And it'll never be answered.

Fact of the matter is, bullet for bullet it doesn't matter anymore - at least when discussing the use of handguns against two-legged critters. 

I embraced 40's for no reason other than I've got multiple friends who will handload for me. 

[razgueado]

@ Raz - get-um while congress is on vacation!

Not a bad deal these days, at Target Sports USA

Federal 5.56mm XM855 NATO 62 Grain FMJ 420 rds on Stripper Clips in Ammo Can

Special $210.00
FREE SHIPPING INCLUDED

My rifle has a slow twist (1:9), so the higher price for the heavier bullet doesn't buy me anything.  I stock up when I get the 55gr at around $0.40@.  My next such rifle will have a faster twist and a longer barrel.

Just re-barrel it.

But then I don't have an excuse to buy another gun.

But you don't have the money for a new AR anyway so just what difference does it make at this time?

I thought "hunting rifle" was next on the list... not that you couldn't hunt with another AR. Does he already have a .308? 

Oh, and I'm not terribly interested in a .308.

You were not interested in a full size .40 either so you bought two.

I didn't say I wasn't interested in it, only that I didn't NEED it. 

I don't need a .308, but I'm also not particularly interested in that cartridge.

A .308 is a fundamental member of every Murican arsenal.

Used to be. It's outdated technology now.

Wonder why they still sell so many of them in modern rifles

Same reason they still sell so many 1911's in 45acp.  Tradition, heritage, aesthetics, and personal preference. A 308 will get the job done, just not something I'm personally exercised about. Personal preference.

And BTW, I can afford whatever I decide is important to me. The 308 just isn't that important to me right now. But that could change tomorrow, just like it did last week for a couple of FNS-40's.

I was waiting on that and sure enough you got it backwards .  The correct answer would be "for the same reason they sell so many Modern Guns in .45 ACP".

I was covering the fact that both the 1911 and the 45acp are dated.

Choot j'ou just as dead though.

So will a cap-and-ball revolver, for that matter.

[cigarbreath]

104/123 degrees out, don't guess I will be smoking today unless I get in the pool.

Fuggin' humidty!

[razgueado]

@ Raz - get-um while congress is on vacation!

Not a bad deal these days, at Target Sports USA

Federal 5.56mm XM855 NATO 62 Grain FMJ 420 rds on Stripper Clips in Ammo Can

Special $210.00
FREE SHIPPING INCLUDED

My rifle has a slow twist (1:9), so the higher price for the heavier bullet doesn't buy me anything.  I stock up when I get the 55gr at around $0.40@.  My next such rifle will have a faster twist and a longer barrel.

Just re-barrel it.

But then I don't have an excuse to buy another gun.

But you don't have the money for a new AR anyway so just what difference does it make at this time?

I thought "hunting rifle" was next on the list... not that you couldn't hunt with another AR. Does he already have a .308? 

Oh, and I'm not terribly interested in a .308.

You were not interested in a full size .40 either so you bought two.

I didn't say I wasn't interested in it, only that I didn't NEED it. 

I don't need a .308, but I'm also not particularly interested in that cartridge.

A .308 is a fundamental member of every Murican arsenal.

Used to be. It's outdated technology now.

Wonder why they still sell so many of them in modern rifles

Same reason they still sell so many 1911's in 45acp.  Tradition, heritage, aesthetics, and personal preference. A 308 will get the job done, just not something I'm personally exercised about. Personal preference.

And BTW, I can afford whatever I decide is important to me. The 308 just isn't that important to me right now. But that could change tomorrow, just like it did last week for a couple of FNS-40's.

I was waiting on that and sure enough you got it backwards .  The correct answer would be "for the same reason they sell so many Modern Guns in .45 ACP".

For the life of me, I don't quite understand why they have so many different sizes anyway. Two maybe three sizes for pistols, the same for rifles, two for shotguns and be done with it.  Easier to get ammo, less hassles.

Marketing department that's why.

Someone always wants to build a better mouse trap, and there is always someone who will want to sell it. 

Since Bret kinda brought up Cooper, the short(er) answer is "why not?"

The reason why not is cross compatibility.  PITA if you pick up one gun and get the ammo or cartridge for another.
The more options there are, the greater for mixups.

Like the time my son and I were going out skeet shooting and only realized out on the range that he brought 20g shells for his 12g gun.

Stop the common sense approach to hobbies!   Sheesh, what if they only made 3 kinds of cigars, after all they all just make smoke.

And God forbid you only grab two Coronas for a long drive when you meant to grab Churchills.

[razgueado]

Time to head out. Hazzuh!

Later Golf

Golf is slipping up on 10K

Later Golf.  Be sure to prepare that stellar 10K post!

Please don't pull a Raz and PWYAO.

I got him all riled up now so he should slow down for a while.

Who, me?  Nah, I'm not riled.  I got you riled. ;-)

Nah, I just went and grabbed a nap.  Now to catch up on the ammo banter.

I'm not riled up I already got plenty of guns and bullets and then some just like fuk'n with you to pass the time at work.

And vice-versa.  That's what friends is fo'.