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[South Carolina Redfish]

Gun control sheesh!

Cigar control Sheesh!

I watched the first part of the speech. Early on he smirked, "It's not like we're going to confiscate all guns in the country." (paraphrase)
How many times does a person have to lie to you until you no longer believe him/her? When she says she loves you, but then has an affair with your best friend, do you still believe her?  When she says, the affair is over, but then you find lots of back and forth texts between them and she explains it saying, they're just friends?
Oooop, did I go off on a tangent?  How about when "he" says if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor or if you like your plan, you can keep your plan ... says the family will save over $1,000 a year on health expenses?  Then, none of these prove to be true for most Americans.  Tons of full-time jobs are converted to part-time, so that companies will not be compelled under the rules to provide health insurance to their employees.  Middle class Americans are not better off ... wages and full time jobs down ... not to speak of the "Shovel Ready Jobs" which never materialized.  When confronted about that, the response was that same smirk ... ha, ha, well I guess they weren't there like we thought.  Sorry for the rant, but when leftist progressives say that they won't do something (to assuage fears or counter the opposition), they usually are telegraphing exactly the opposite, what they actually are planning to do.  This ain't paranoia ... this is using memory and an knowledge of history to show, that it is rational/reasonable NOT to believe this guy, as persuasive as he may be.

Hear he got mad and cried...

OBAMA’S CRYING FUELS SPECULATION IT WAS FAKED

He is a good actor. I wouldn't discount an "advised" media play.

Just watched the replay on the news.  When he started to wipe one eye. Then brought his hand down, turned to his right, so that he could look face on to the camera, so it would catch his full face and tears running down.  Without any cynicism, it just looked like a conscious decision in the moment to take full advantage of those tears. Again ... rather than use reason, study and statistics to come up with solutions, he uses emotion to get his ideological agenda accomplished.  I remember reading Lenin telling his minions to make treaties, promises when expedient, because you can always break them when they are inconveniently in the way.  Same thing in Islam, this is in the book, that it is permissible to lie, when seeking to advance Shariah law. In both cases, the ends justify the means is their modus operandi.  One CAN use immoral means to attend their ends.  I don't minimize the pain of the families of gun violence, but it seems they are being manipulated when most vulnerable by those who seek to curb citizens' Constitutional liberties, because they personally disagree with or don't like them +++ Anyone pick up any of the CP deals? I've been trying to work my way through a sampler of AJ's finest ... Really liked the Enclave, did not like the New World Connecticut ... though I like the regular NW.

Everything he does is planned, calculated, staged and fake.

I bought a mazo of the Oval Maduro Coronas.  They were mostly good deals.

[SLY]

Shoot, I forgot to take my meds at 4pm (ha, ha ... not that kind ... antibiotics ... 1,000 mg, 3x/day ... to keep me out of the hospital).  Have to see if the swelling has gone down, and I look decent enough to teach a class tonight.  See you guys later ... sorry for my rants, but no one else around to discuss the events of the day with.

[South Carolina Redfish]

New Worlds are almost all Gone but now they added a Pinolero in there.

The Pinolero's are about $35/Mazo more than I paid at the .Biz a few weeks ago.

In pretty short supply around other sites however.

Sold out in a couple of days at the biz too

Pinolero Churchill's on the Free Fall at the bid site.  Watched two cycles, got as low as $129+

Robusto's were $98.50 FS on the page today and just sold out a few hours ago but boxes were way cheaper on the .biz a few weeks ago.

TR, I think that was when I got a 10 pk of the SL Habanos and a 10 pk of the Ovals ... can't remember the price, but it was lower than getting a box of either.

The page has 5 & 10 paks cheaper than boxes on a regular basis.

[Oyam18]

Gun control sheesh!

Cigar control Sheesh!

I watched the first part of the speech. Early on he smirked, "It's not like we're going to confiscate all guns in the country." (paraphrase)
How many times does a person have to lie to you until you no longer believe him/her? When she says she loves you, but then has an affair with your best friend, do you still believe her?  When she says, the affair is over, but then you find lots of back and forth texts between them and she explains it saying, they're just friends?
Oooop, did I go off on a tangent?  How about when "he" says if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor or if you like your plan, you can keep your plan ... says the family will save over $1,000 a year on health expenses?  Then, none of these prove to be true for most Americans.  Tons of full-time jobs are converted to part-time, so that companies will not be compelled under the rules to provide health insurance to their employees.  Middle class Americans are not better off ... wages and full time jobs down ... not to speak of the "Shovel Ready Jobs" which never materialized.  When confronted about that, the response was that same smirk ... ha, ha, well I guess they weren't there like we thought.  Sorry for the rant, but when leftist progressives say that they won't do something (to assuage fears or counter the opposition), they usually are telegraphing exactly the opposite, what they actually are planning to do.  This ain't paranoia ... this is using memory and an knowledge of history to show, that it is rational/reasonable NOT to believe this guy, as persuasive as he may be.

Hear he got mad and cried...

OBAMA’S CRYING FUELS SPECULATION IT WAS FAKED

He is a good actor. I wouldn't discount an "advised" media play.

Just watched the replay on the news.  When he started to wipe one eye. Then brought his hand down, turned to his right, so that he could look face on to the camera, so it would catch his full face and tears running down.  Without any cynicism, it just looked like a conscious decision in the moment to take full advantage of those tears. Again ... rather than use reason, study and statistics to come up with solutions, he uses emotion to get his ideological agenda accomplished.  I remember reading Lenin telling his minions to make treaties, promises when expedient, because you can always break them when they are inconveniently in the way.  Same thing in Islam, this is in the book, that it is permissible to lie, when seeking to advance Shariah law. In both cases, the ends justify the means is their modus operandi.  One CAN use immoral means to attend their ends.  I don't minimize the pain of the families of gun violence, but it seems they are being manipulated when most vulnerable by those who seek to curb citizens' Constitutional liberties, because they personally disagree with or don't like them +++ Anyone pick up any of the CP deals? I've been trying to work my way through a sampler of AJ's finest ... Really liked the Enclave, did not like the New World Connecticut ... though I like the regular NW.

Everything he does is planned, calculated, staged and fake.

I bought a mazo of the Oval Maduro Coronas.  They were mostly good deals.

[South Carolina Redfish]

Shoot, I forgot to take my meds at 4pm (ha, ha ... not that kind ... antibiotics ... 1,000 mg, 3x/day ... to keep me out of the hospital).  Have to see if the swelling has gone down, and I look decent enough to teach a class tonight.  See you guys later ... sorry for my rants, but no one else around to discuss the events of the day with.

Later Sly

[SLY]

Gun control sheesh!

Cigar control Sheesh!

I watched the first part of the speech. Early on he smirked, "It's not like we're going to confiscate all guns in the country." (paraphrase)
How many times does a person have to lie to you until you no longer believe him/her? When she says she loves you, but then has an affair with your best friend, do you still believe her?  When she says, the affair is over, but then you find lots of back and forth texts between them and she explains it saying, they're just friends?
Oooop, did I go off on a tangent?  How about when "he" says if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor or if you like your plan, you can keep your plan ... says the family will save over $1,000 a year on health expenses?  Then, none of these prove to be true for most Americans.  Tons of full-time jobs are converted to part-time, so that companies will not be compelled under the rules to provide health insurance to their employees.  Middle class Americans are not better off ... wages and full time jobs down ... not to speak of the "Shovel Ready Jobs" which never materialized.  When confronted about that, the response was that same smirk ... ha, ha, well I guess they weren't there like we thought.  Sorry for the rant, but when leftist progressives say that they won't do something (to assuage fears or counter the opposition), they usually are telegraphing exactly the opposite, what they actually are planning to do.  This ain't paranoia ... this is using memory and an knowledge of history to show, that it is rational/reasonable NOT to believe this guy, as persuasive as he may be.

Hear he got mad and cried...

OBAMA’S CRYING FUELS SPECULATION IT WAS FAKED

He is a good actor. I wouldn't discount an "advised" media play.

Just watched the replay on the news.  When he started to wipe one eye. Then brought his hand down, turned to his right, so that he could look face on to the camera, so it would catch his full face and tears running down.  Without any cynicism, it just looked like a conscious decision in the moment to take full advantage of those tears. Again ... rather than use reason, study and statistics to come up with solutions, he uses emotion to get his ideological agenda accomplished.  I remember reading Lenin telling his minions to make treaties, promises when expedient, because you can always break them when they are inconveniently in the way.  Same thing in Islam, this is in the book, that it is permissible to lie, when seeking to advance Shariah law. In both cases, the ends justify the means is their modus operandi.  One CAN use immoral means to attend their ends.  I don't minimize the pain of the families of gun violence, but it seems they are being manipulated when most vulnerable by those who seek to curb citizens' Constitutional liberties, because they personally disagree with or don't like them +++ Anyone pick up any of the CP deals? I've been trying to work my way through a sampler of AJ's finest ... Really liked the Enclave, did not like the New World Connecticut ... though I like the regular NW.

Everything he does is planned, calculated, staged and fake.

I bought a mazo of the Oval Maduro Coronas.  They were mostly good deals.

True ... I've heard that from people who work on the inside.
How are those Maduro coronas?  Definitely need some good winter short smokes.  Was even eyeing the Petrus corona in the CI catalog that came today ... less than $18, I have had them before ... not great, but also not bad ... for less than $1 short winter smoke, that you wouldn't feel guilty tossing if you only had time to smoke half.

[South Carolina Redfish]

Afternoon OY, leg still in a cast?

[Oyam18]

Afternoon OY, leg still in a cast?

afternoon señor .... Yup 3 more weeks

[South Carolina Redfish]

Gun control sheesh!

Cigar control Sheesh!

I watched the first part of the speech. Early on he smirked, "It's not like we're going to confiscate all guns in the country." (paraphrase)
How many times does a person have to lie to you until you no longer believe him/her? When she says she loves you, but then has an affair with your best friend, do you still believe her?  When she says, the affair is over, but then you find lots of back and forth texts between them and she explains it saying, they're just friends?
Oooop, did I go off on a tangent?  How about when "he" says if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor or if you like your plan, you can keep your plan ... says the family will save over $1,000 a year on health expenses?  Then, none of these prove to be true for most Americans.  Tons of full-time jobs are converted to part-time, so that companies will not be compelled under the rules to provide health insurance to their employees.  Middle class Americans are not better off ... wages and full time jobs down ... not to speak of the "Shovel Ready Jobs" which never materialized.  When confronted about that, the response was that same smirk ... ha, ha, well I guess they weren't there like we thought.  Sorry for the rant, but when leftist progressives say that they won't do something (to assuage fears or counter the opposition), they usually are telegraphing exactly the opposite, what they actually are planning to do.  This ain't paranoia ... this is using memory and an knowledge of history to show, that it is rational/reasonable NOT to believe this guy, as persuasive as he may be.

Hear he got mad and cried...

OBAMA’S CRYING FUELS SPECULATION IT WAS FAKED

He is a good actor. I wouldn't discount an "advised" media play.

Just watched the replay on the news.  When he started to wipe one eye. Then brought his hand down, turned to his right, so that he could look face on to the camera, so it would catch his full face and tears running down.  Without any cynicism, it just looked like a conscious decision in the moment to take full advantage of those tears. Again ... rather than use reason, study and statistics to come up with solutions, he uses emotion to get his ideological agenda accomplished.  I remember reading Lenin telling his minions to make treaties, promises when expedient, because you can always break them when they are inconveniently in the way.  Same thing in Islam, this is in the book, that it is permissible to lie, when seeking to advance Shariah law. In both cases, the ends justify the means is their modus operandi.  One CAN use immoral means to attend their ends.  I don't minimize the pain of the families of gun violence, but it seems they are being manipulated when most vulnerable by those who seek to curb citizens' Constitutional liberties, because they personally disagree with or don't like them +++ Anyone pick up any of the CP deals? I've been trying to work my way through a sampler of AJ's finest ... Really liked the Enclave, did not like the New World Connecticut ... though I like the regular NW.

Everything he does is planned, calculated, staged and fake.

I bought a mazo of the Oval Maduro Coronas.  They were mostly good deals.

True ... I've heard that from people who work on the inside.
How are those Maduro coronas?  Definitely need some good winter short smokes.  Was even eyeing the Petrus corona in the CI catalog that came today ... less than $18, I have had them before ... not great, but also not bad ... for less than $1 short winter smoke, that you wouldn't feel guilty tossing if you only had time to smoke half.

I have not tried the coronas but the Oval Maduros and the Bulls are the best smokes in that line IMHO, that said I like all of them except the connies.

Short Stories are a favorite winter smoke for me.

[South Carolina Redfish]

Afternoon OY, leg still in a cast?

afternoon señor .... Yup 3 more weeks

Yikes, been there and I know you are sick of that chit.

[Oyam18]

Afternoon OY, leg still in a cast?

afternoon señor .... Yup 3 more weeks

Yikes, been there and I know you are sick of that chit.

indeed, but this Oval is great! Even if it is freezing

[South Carolina Redfish]

Afternoon OY, leg still in a cast?

afternoon señor .... Yup 3 more weeks

Yikes, been there and I know you are sick of that chit.

indeed, but this Oval is great! Even if it is freezing

Oval is a nice smoke IMHO

[Oyam18]

Afternoon OY, leg still in a cast?

afternoon señor .... Yup 3 more weeks

Yikes, been there and I know you are sick of that chit.

indeed, but this Oval is great! Even if it is freezing

Oval is a nice smoke IMHO

aged well, super smooth and creamy. Time to go inside and thaw out.

[Oyam18]

Sly, things are so messed up in this country that I would vote for Trump.

[Oyam18]

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