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[South Carolina Redfish]

@TexasDave, currently La Bomba Warhead II bid at Famous Auction $31, about 2 hours left

If no one else here is interested, I may take a chance.

...Good afternoon, everybody

Afternoon BS, I am interested but not going to pursue as I am on a self administered buying moratorium trying to reduce the humidor overflow.

I thought you took care of that over the last week....

Hardly, got home and had a brown box with more in it than I took with me.

[BackyardSmoker]

I'm sure I mention about 6 months ago that my wife's 20 year old car needed about $1,500 worth of radiator, hoses, and transmission fluid leaking into the radiator.  Well, about two weeks ago, the car will no longer hold oil.  It's coming out the oil pan, and heads, and needs another $1,500 worth of engine work.  Now I have to take her to work at 10:00 pm and pick her up at 6:00 am....  Ugh..!

Get her a bicycle   Meanwhile sounds like you better get a bucket for that car.

My wife said she wants a Toyota.  I check on the internet and there's allot of special deals with a $1,000 rebate making the price from $16,000 to $23,000.  I figured we could find some thing in the $17,000 - $19,000 range.  So we went to our local friendly home town Toyota dealer on Friday.

We made a deal on a Corolla for $20,000 with our sales man.  The Sales manager, who kept butting in and turning the deal into a high pressure sale, brought the contract over.  They write the deals at tables on the showroom, so your sitting in the middle of all the other salesmen and customers.  The Sales Manager brings the contract over, and points to the line I have to sign on, but his arm is over the figures so you can't see the deal.  I said, "let me take a look at this."  He wrote the deal at $21,000 instead of the $20,000 that was agreed upon.  When I asked him about it, he started raising his voice as he's explaining it. Basically, he wouldn't include the advertised $1,000 rebate.  I said, "that's not how you explained it 10 minutes ago.."  He said, "ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIAR...?"  I said, "No, I'm saying, YOU did not explain the EXTRA $1,000 increase...!"  My wife asked me, "what's going on..?"  I said, "this guy is pulling some thing on us, and it's going to cost us another $1,000.  I'm saying, "your not getting your new car..!"  My wife starts crying and everyone is looking at us.  The Sales Manager says, "It's only $1,000."  I said, "Well, your right, it's only money.  Let's see how you like some one taking money away from you...?  My offer now is $19,500 cash...  It's only money, except now it's yours..!  The Sales Manager looked at us as if he wanted to kill us...  He started pacing around the show room, coming up to our table and pacing again.  My wife is crying.  It was very traumatic and embarrassing.  I thought I might have to fight this guy, I'm serious.  He was basically trying to screw us out of the $1,000 rebate.  He was more concerned on taking that rebate away from us than selling the car.  But I don't know what advantage he would get from removing the rebate...?  Finally he came over to our table and said, "It's time for you two to leave..!"  And, threw us out.  I walked over to our salesman and said, "We had a deal, it was all table, what just happened..?"  The salesman is looking at me like, "my boss just took my sale away from me."  We went home and I checked Truecar and the Truecar deal for that car was $19,675.  My offer was only $175 off, and yet they threw us out... ugh..!

Well you should have said loud enough for everyone in the showroom to hear yes I am calling you a fuk'n liar and walked out the door.   The advantage was the rebate would effectively go to the dealership,

Agreed. That was a fvckin dick move by him.

[Travellin Dave]

Might be old, but...

Ha!

I'll take this blow up doll... easy Shaun... down, boy!

+1

[Travellin Dave]

I'm sure I mention about 6 months ago that my wife's 20 year old car needed about $1,500 worth of radiator, hoses, and transmission fluid leaking into the radiator.  Well, about two weeks ago, the car will no longer hold oil.  It's coming out the oil pan, and heads, and needs another $1,500 worth of engine work.  Now I have to take her to work at 10:00 pm and pick her up at 6:00 am....  Ugh..!

Get her a bicycle   Meanwhile sounds like you better get a bucket for that car.

My wife said she wants a Toyota.  I check on the internet and there's allot of special deals with a $1,000 rebate making the price from $16,000 to $23,000.  I figured we could find some thing in the $17,000 - $19,000 range.  So we went to our local friendly home town Toyota dealer on Friday.

We made a deal on a Corolla for $20,000 with our sales man.  The Sales manager, who kept butting in and turning the deal into a high pressure sale, brought the contract over.  They write the deals at tables on the showroom, so your sitting in the middle of all the other salesmen and customers.  The Sales Manager brings the contract over, and points to the line I have to sign on, but his arm is over the figures so you can't see the deal.  I said, "let me take a look at this."  He wrote the deal at $21,000 instead of the $20,000 that was agreed upon.  When I asked him about it, he started raising his voice as he's explaining it. Basically, he wouldn't include the advertised $1,000 rebate.  I said, "that's not how you explained it 10 minutes ago.."  He said, "ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIAR...?"  I said, "No, I'm saying, YOU did not explain the EXTRA $1,000 increase...!"  My wife asked me, "what's going on..?"  I said, "this guy is pulling some thing on us, and it's going to cost us another $1,000.  I'm saying, "your not getting your new car..!"  My wife starts crying and everyone is looking at us.  The Sales Manager says, "It's only $1,000."  I said, "Well, your right, it's only money.  Let's see how you like some one taking money away from you...?  My offer now is $19,500 cash...  It's only money, except now it's yours..!  The Sales Manager looked at us as if he wanted to kill us...  He started pacing around the show room, coming up to our table and pacing again.  My wife is crying.  It was very traumatic and embarrassing.  I thought I might have to fight this guy, I'm serious.  He was basically trying to screw us out of the $1,000 rebate.  He was more concerned on taking that rebate away from us than selling the car.  But I don't know what advantage he would get from removing the rebate...?  Finally he came over to our table and said, "It's time for you two to leave..!"  And, threw us out.  I walked over to our salesman and said, "We had a deal, it was all table, what just happened..?"  The salesman is looking at me like, "my boss just took my sale away from me."  We went home and I checked Truecar and the Truecar deal for that car was $19,675.  My offer was only $175 off, and yet they threw us out... ugh..!

There are a lot of Toyota dealerships that are no nonsense....some are the hard sell like you had to deal with.  Do you have any other choices for dealerships?  I would also blast off a letter to Toyota of America about your dealings with the bozo's.  If you have a Mazda dealership around, consider a 3.

[South Carolina Redfish]

I'm sure I mention about 6 months ago that my wife's 20 year old car needed about $1,500 worth of radiator, hoses, and transmission fluid leaking into the radiator.  Well, about two weeks ago, the car will no longer hold oil.  It's coming out the oil pan, and heads, and needs another $1,500 worth of engine work.  Now I have to take her to work at 10:00 pm and pick her up at 6:00 am....  Ugh..!

Get her a bicycle   Meanwhile sounds like you better get a bucket for that car.

My wife said she wants a Toyota.  I check on the internet and there's allot of special deals with a $1,000 rebate making the price from $16,000 to $23,000.  I figured we could find some thing in the $17,000 - $19,000 range.  So we went to our local friendly home town Toyota dealer on Friday.

We made a deal on a Corolla for $20,000 with our sales man.  The Sales manager, who kept butting in and turning the deal into a high pressure sale, brought the contract over.  They write the deals at tables on the showroom, so your sitting in the middle of all the other salesmen and customers.  The Sales Manager brings the contract over, and points to the line I have to sign on, but his arm is over the figures so you can't see the deal.  I said, "let me take a look at this."  He wrote the deal at $21,000 instead of the $20,000 that was agreed upon.  When I asked him about it, he started raising his voice as he's explaining it. Basically, he wouldn't include the advertised $1,000 rebate.  I said, "that's not how you explained it 10 minutes ago.."  He said, "ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIAR...?"  I said, "No, I'm saying, YOU did not explain the EXTRA $1,000 increase...!"  My wife asked me, "what's going on..?"  I said, "this guy is pulling some thing on us, and it's going to cost us another $1,000.  I'm saying, "your not getting your new car..!"  My wife starts crying and everyone is looking at us.  The Sales Manager says, "It's only $1,000."  I said, "Well, your right, it's only money.  Let's see how you like some one taking money away from you...?  My offer now is $19,500 cash...  It's only money, except now it's yours..!  The Sales Manager looked at us as if he wanted to kill us...  He started pacing around the show room, coming up to our table and pacing again.  My wife is crying.  It was very traumatic and embarrassing.  I thought I might have to fight this guy, I'm serious.  He was basically trying to screw us out of the $1,000 rebate.  He was more concerned on taking that rebate away from us than selling the car.  But I don't know what advantage he would get from removing the rebate...?  Finally he came over to our table and said, "It's time for you two to leave..!"  And, threw us out.  I walked over to our salesman and said, "We had a deal, it was all table, what just happened..?"  The salesman is looking at me like, "my boss just took my sale away from me."  We went home and I checked Truecar and the Truecar deal for that car was $19,675.  My offer was only $175 off, and yet they threw us out... ugh..!

There are a lot of Toyota dealerships that are no nonsense....some are the hard sell like you had to deal with.  Do you have any other choices for dealerships?  I would also blast off a letter to Toyota of America about your dealings with the bozo's.  If you have a Mazda dealership around, consider a 3.

Toyotas are good cars but Toyota Dealers are notoriously some of the worst sleezbag sales operations.

[LuvTooGolf]

I'm sure I mention about 6 months ago that my wife's 20 year old car needed about $1,500 worth of radiator, hoses, and transmission fluid leaking into the radiator.  Well, about two weeks ago, the car will no longer hold oil.  It's coming out the oil pan, and heads, and needs another $1,500 worth of engine work.  Now I have to take her to work at 10:00 pm and pick her up at 6:00 am....  Ugh..!

Get her a bicycle   Meanwhile sounds like you better get a bucket for that car.

My wife said she wants a Toyota.  I check on the internet and there's allot of special deals with a $1,000 rebate making the price from $16,000 to $23,000.  I figured we could find some thing in the $17,000 - $19,000 range.  So we went to our local friendly home town Toyota dealer on Friday.

We made a deal on a Corolla for $20,000 with our sales man.  The Sales manager, who kept butting in and turning the deal into a high pressure sale, brought the contract over.  They write the deals at tables on the showroom, so your sitting in the middle of all the other salesmen and customers.  The Sales Manager brings the contract over, and points to the line I have to sign on, but his arm is over the figures so you can't see the deal.  I said, "let me take a look at this."  He wrote the deal at $21,000 instead of the $20,000 that was agreed upon.  When I asked him about it, he started raising his voice as he's explaining it. Basically, he wouldn't include the advertised $1,000 rebate.  I said, "that's not how you explained it 10 minutes ago.."  He said, "ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIAR...?"  I said, "No, I'm saying, YOU did not explain the EXTRA $1,000 increase...!"  My wife asked me, "what's going on..?"  I said, "this guy is pulling some thing on us, and it's going to cost us another $1,000.  I'm saying, "your not getting your new car..!"  My wife starts crying and everyone is looking at us.  The Sales Manager says, "It's only $1,000."  I said, "Well, your right, it's only money.  Let's see how you like some one taking money away from you...?  My offer now is $19,500 cash...  It's only money, except now it's yours..!  The Sales Manager looked at us as if he wanted to kill us...  He started pacing around the show room, coming up to our table and pacing again.  My wife is crying.  It was very traumatic and embarrassing.  I thought I might have to fight this guy, I'm serious.  He was basically trying to screw us out of the $1,000 rebate.  He was more concerned on taking that rebate away from us than selling the car.  But I don't know what advantage he would get from removing the rebate...?  Finally he came over to our table and said, "It's time for you two to leave..!"  And, threw us out.  I walked over to our salesman and said, "We had a deal, it was all table, what just happened..?"  The salesman is looking at me like, "my boss just took my sale away from me."  We went home and I checked Truecar and the Truecar deal for that car was $19,675.  My offer was only $175 off, and yet they threw us out... ugh..!

There are a lot of Toyota dealerships that are no nonsense....some are the hard sell like you had to deal with.  Do you have any other choices for dealerships?  I would also blast off a letter to Toyota of America about your dealings with the bozo's.  If you have a Mazda dealership around, consider a 3.

As soon as the deal didn't match what was discussed, I'd have walked out, no questions asked. If they can't get something like that right at the very beginning, that's not someone you want to enter into a business dealing with. Who knows what else they stuck in the contract, cause who the fuck can read all that at the time you're buying a car?

[Bad Dad]

I'm sure I mention about 6 months ago that my wife's 20 year old car needed about $1,500 worth of radiator, hoses, and transmission fluid leaking into the radiator.  Well, about two weeks ago, the car will no longer hold oil.  It's coming out the oil pan, and heads, and needs another $1,500 worth of engine work.  Now I have to take her to work at 10:00 pm and pick her up at 6:00 am....  Ugh..!

Get her a bicycle   Meanwhile sounds like you better get a bucket for that car.

My wife said she wants a Toyota.  I check on the internet and there's allot of special deals with a $1,000 rebate making the price from $16,000 to $23,000.  I figured we could find some thing in the $17,000 - $19,000 range.  So we went to our local friendly home town Toyota dealer on Friday.

We made a deal on a Corolla for $20,000 with our sales man.  The Sales manager, who kept butting in and turning the deal into a high pressure sale, brought the contract over.  They write the deals at tables on the showroom, so your sitting in the middle of all the other salesmen and customers.  The Sales Manager brings the contract over, and points to the line I have to sign on, but his arm is over the figures so you can't see the deal.  I said, "let me take a look at this."  He wrote the deal at $21,000 instead of the $20,000 that was agreed upon.  When I asked him about it, he started raising his voice as he's explaining it. Basically, he wouldn't include the advertised $1,000 rebate.  I said, "that's not how you explained it 10 minutes ago.."  He said, "ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIAR...?"  I said, "No, I'm saying, YOU did not explain the EXTRA $1,000 increase...!"  My wife asked me, "what's going on..?"  I said, "this guy is pulling some thing on us, and it's going to cost us another $1,000.  I'm saying, "your not getting your new car..!"  My wife starts crying and everyone is looking at us.  The Sales Manager says, "It's only $1,000."  I said, "Well, your right, it's only money.  Let's see how you like some one taking money away from you...?  My offer now is $19,500 cash...  It's only money, except now it's yours..!  The Sales Manager looked at us as if he wanted to kill us...  He started pacing around the show room, coming up to our table and pacing again.  My wife is crying.  It was very traumatic and embarrassing.  I thought I might have to fight this guy, I'm serious.  He was basically trying to screw us out of the $1,000 rebate.  He was more concerned on taking that rebate away from us than selling the car.  But I don't know what advantage he would get from removing the rebate...?  Finally he came over to our table and said, "It's time for you two to leave..!"  And, threw us out.  I walked over to our salesman and said, "We had a deal, it was all table, what just happened..?"  The salesman is looking at me like, "my boss just took my sale away from me."  We went home and I checked Truecar and the Truecar deal for that car was $19,675.  My offer was only $175 off, and yet they threw us out... ugh..!

Well you should have said loud enough for everyone in the showroom to hear yes I am calling you a fuk'n liar and walked out the door.   The advantage was the rebate would effectively go to the dealership,

He wasn't going to sell me that car with a rebate.  I've been sort of thinking about writing Toyota, and asking them, "Why are you offering rebates when the dealership fights to keep you from getting it...?"  And would rather lose a sale over it..?  When I got home I looked at the dealers webpage on the car I had tried to buy.  It's internet price, with tax, title, fees and license, minus the $1,000 rebate was right at $20,000.  Our original deal.  And the whole time I told them I wanted to pay cash (what we had saved + pre-approved credit union loan.)  Now we don't know what to do..?  We wanted a Toyota but now even if we went to St. Louis to buy one, we still wouldn't want to deal with this local dealership...

[South Carolina Redfish]

I'm sure I mention about 6 months ago that my wife's 20 year old car needed about $1,500 worth of radiator, hoses, and transmission fluid leaking into the radiator.  Well, about two weeks ago, the car will no longer hold oil.  It's coming out the oil pan, and heads, and needs another $1,500 worth of engine work.  Now I have to take her to work at 10:00 pm and pick her up at 6:00 am....  Ugh..!

Get her a bicycle   Meanwhile sounds like you better get a bucket for that car.

My wife said she wants a Toyota.  I check on the internet and there's allot of special deals with a $1,000 rebate making the price from $16,000 to $23,000.  I figured we could find some thing in the $17,000 - $19,000 range.  So we went to our local friendly home town Toyota dealer on Friday.

We made a deal on a Corolla for $20,000 with our sales man.  The Sales manager, who kept butting in and turning the deal into a high pressure sale, brought the contract over.  They write the deals at tables on the showroom, so your sitting in the middle of all the other salesmen and customers.  The Sales Manager brings the contract over, and points to the line I have to sign on, but his arm is over the figures so you can't see the deal.  I said, "let me take a look at this."  He wrote the deal at $21,000 instead of the $20,000 that was agreed upon.  When I asked him about it, he started raising his voice as he's explaining it. Basically, he wouldn't include the advertised $1,000 rebate.  I said, "that's not how you explained it 10 minutes ago.."  He said, "ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIAR...?"  I said, "No, I'm saying, YOU did not explain the EXTRA $1,000 increase...!"  My wife asked me, "what's going on..?"  I said, "this guy is pulling some thing on us, and it's going to cost us another $1,000.  I'm saying, "your not getting your new car..!"  My wife starts crying and everyone is looking at us.  The Sales Manager says, "It's only $1,000."  I said, "Well, your right, it's only money.  Let's see how you like some one taking money away from you...?  My offer now is $19,500 cash...  It's only money, except now it's yours..!  The Sales Manager looked at us as if he wanted to kill us...  He started pacing around the show room, coming up to our table and pacing again.  My wife is crying.  It was very traumatic and embarrassing.  I thought I might have to fight this guy, I'm serious.  He was basically trying to screw us out of the $1,000 rebate.  He was more concerned on taking that rebate away from us than selling the car.  But I don't know what advantage he would get from removing the rebate...?  Finally he came over to our table and said, "It's time for you two to leave..!"  And, threw us out.  I walked over to our salesman and said, "We had a deal, it was all table, what just happened..?"  The salesman is looking at me like, "my boss just took my sale away from me."  We went home and I checked Truecar and the Truecar deal for that car was $19,675.  My offer was only $175 off, and yet they threw us out... ugh..!

Well you should have said loud enough for everyone in the showroom to hear yes I am calling you a fuk'n liar and walked out the door.   The advantage was the rebate would effectively go to the dealership,

He wasn't going to sell me that car with a rebate.  I've been sort of thinking about writing Toyota, and asking them, "Why are you offering rebates when the dealership fights to keep you from getting it...?"  And would rather lose a sale over it..?  When I got home I looked at the dealers webpage on the car I had tried to buy.  It's internet price, with tax, title, fees and license, minus the $1,000 rebate was right at $20,000.  Our original deal.  And the whole time I told them I wanted to pay cash (what we had saved + pre-approved credit union loan.)  Now we don't know what to do..?  We wanted a Toyota but now even if we went to St. Louis to buy one, we still wouldn't want to deal with this local dealership...

There are a bunch of different Toyota Dealers in and around St Louis.

[LuvTooGolf]

I'm sure I mention about 6 months ago that my wife's 20 year old car needed about $1,500 worth of radiator, hoses, and transmission fluid leaking into the radiator.  Well, about two weeks ago, the car will no longer hold oil.  It's coming out the oil pan, and heads, and needs another $1,500 worth of engine work.  Now I have to take her to work at 10:00 pm and pick her up at 6:00 am....  Ugh..!

Get her a bicycle   Meanwhile sounds like you better get a bucket for that car.

My wife said she wants a Toyota.  I check on the internet and there's allot of special deals with a $1,000 rebate making the price from $16,000 to $23,000.  I figured we could find some thing in the $17,000 - $19,000 range.  So we went to our local friendly home town Toyota dealer on Friday.

We made a deal on a Corolla for $20,000 with our sales man.  The Sales manager, who kept butting in and turning the deal into a high pressure sale, brought the contract over.  They write the deals at tables on the showroom, so your sitting in the middle of all the other salesmen and customers.  The Sales Manager brings the contract over, and points to the line I have to sign on, but his arm is over the figures so you can't see the deal.  I said, "let me take a look at this."  He wrote the deal at $21,000 instead of the $20,000 that was agreed upon.  When I asked him about it, he started raising his voice as he's explaining it. Basically, he wouldn't include the advertised $1,000 rebate.  I said, "that's not how you explained it 10 minutes ago.."  He said, "ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIAR...?"  I said, "No, I'm saying, YOU did not explain the EXTRA $1,000 increase...!"  My wife asked me, "what's going on..?"  I said, "this guy is pulling some thing on us, and it's going to cost us another $1,000.  I'm saying, "your not getting your new car..!"  My wife starts crying and everyone is looking at us.  The Sales Manager says, "It's only $1,000."  I said, "Well, your right, it's only money.  Let's see how you like some one taking money away from you...?  My offer now is $19,500 cash...  It's only money, except now it's yours..!  The Sales Manager looked at us as if he wanted to kill us...  He started pacing around the show room, coming up to our table and pacing again.  My wife is crying.  It was very traumatic and embarrassing.  I thought I might have to fight this guy, I'm serious.  He was basically trying to screw us out of the $1,000 rebate.  He was more concerned on taking that rebate away from us than selling the car.  But I don't know what advantage he would get from removing the rebate...?  Finally he came over to our table and said, "It's time for you two to leave..!"  And, threw us out.  I walked over to our salesman and said, "We had a deal, it was all table, what just happened..?"  The salesman is looking at me like, "my boss just took my sale away from me."  We went home and I checked Truecar and the Truecar deal for that car was $19,675.  My offer was only $175 off, and yet they threw us out... ugh..!

Well you should have said loud enough for everyone in the showroom to hear yes I am calling you a fuk'n liar and walked out the door.   The advantage was the rebate would effectively go to the dealership,

He wasn't going to sell me that car with a rebate.  I've been sort of thinking about writing Toyota, and asking them, "Why are you offering rebates when the dealership fights to keep you from getting it...?"  And would rather lose a sale over it..?  When I got home I looked at the dealers webpage on the car I had tried to buy.  It's internet price, with tax, title, fees and license, minus the $1,000 rebate was right at $20,000.  Our original deal.  And the whole time I told them I wanted to pay cash (what we had saved + pre-approved credit union loan.)  Now we don't know what to do..?  We wanted a Toyota but now even if we went to St. Louis to buy one, we still wouldn't want to deal with this local dealership...

If you walk back into this dealership at this point, you're beyond our help.

[A Friend of Charlie]

Good day, gents.  Sorry you're going through this, BD.  But a +1 on what LTG just said.

[South Carolina Redfish]

I'm sure I mention about 6 months ago that my wife's 20 year old car needed about $1,500 worth of radiator, hoses, and transmission fluid leaking into the radiator.  Well, about two weeks ago, the car will no longer hold oil.  It's coming out the oil pan, and heads, and needs another $1,500 worth of engine work.  Now I have to take her to work at 10:00 pm and pick her up at 6:00 am....  Ugh..!

Get her a bicycle   Meanwhile sounds like you better get a bucket for that car.

My wife said she wants a Toyota.  I check on the internet and there's allot of special deals with a $1,000 rebate making the price from $16,000 to $23,000.  I figured we could find some thing in the $17,000 - $19,000 range.  So we went to our local friendly home town Toyota dealer on Friday.

We made a deal on a Corolla for $20,000 with our sales man.  The Sales manager, who kept butting in and turning the deal into a high pressure sale, brought the contract over.  They write the deals at tables on the showroom, so your sitting in the middle of all the other salesmen and customers.  The Sales Manager brings the contract over, and points to the line I have to sign on, but his arm is over the figures so you can't see the deal.  I said, "let me take a look at this."  He wrote the deal at $21,000 instead of the $20,000 that was agreed upon.  When I asked him about it, he started raising his voice as he's explaining it. Basically, he wouldn't include the advertised $1,000 rebate.  I said, "that's not how you explained it 10 minutes ago.."  He said, "ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIAR...?"  I said, "No, I'm saying, YOU did not explain the EXTRA $1,000 increase...!"  My wife asked me, "what's going on..?"  I said, "this guy is pulling some thing on us, and it's going to cost us another $1,000.  I'm saying, "your not getting your new car..!"  My wife starts crying and everyone is looking at us.  The Sales Manager says, "It's only $1,000."  I said, "Well, your right, it's only money.  Let's see how you like some one taking money away from you...?  My offer now is $19,500 cash...  It's only money, except now it's yours..!  The Sales Manager looked at us as if he wanted to kill us...  He started pacing around the show room, coming up to our table and pacing again.  My wife is crying.  It was very traumatic and embarrassing.  I thought I might have to fight this guy, I'm serious.  He was basically trying to screw us out of the $1,000 rebate.  He was more concerned on taking that rebate away from us than selling the car.  But I don't know what advantage he would get from removing the rebate...?  Finally he came over to our table and said, "It's time for you two to leave..!"  And, threw us out.  I walked over to our salesman and said, "We had a deal, it was all table, what just happened..?"  The salesman is looking at me like, "my boss just took my sale away from me."  We went home and I checked Truecar and the Truecar deal for that car was $19,675.  My offer was only $175 off, and yet they threw us out... ugh..!

Well you should have said loud enough for everyone in the showroom to hear yes I am calling you a fuk'n liar and walked out the door.   The advantage was the rebate would effectively go to the dealership,

He wasn't going to sell me that car with a rebate.  I've been sort of thinking about writing Toyota, and asking them, "Why are you offering rebates when the dealership fights to keep you from getting it...?"  And would rather lose a sale over it..?  When I got home I looked at the dealers webpage on the car I had tried to buy.  It's internet price, with tax, title, fees and license, minus the $1,000 rebate was right at $20,000.  Our original deal.  And the whole time I told them I wanted to pay cash (what we had saved + pre-approved credit union loan.)  Now we don't know what to do..?  We wanted a Toyota but now even if we went to St. Louis to buy one, we still wouldn't want to deal with this local dealership...

If you walk back into this dealership at this point, you're beyond our help.

Wonder how much they had added on for "clear coat protectant and window etching"  those are common Toyota Dealer Scams.

[South Carolina Redfish]

Good day, gents.  Sorry you're going through this, BD.  But a +1 on what LTG just said.

Afternoon Mayor T, CG was making fun of you while ago but I scolded him for it.

[Bad Dad]

I'm sure I mention about 6 months ago that my wife's 20 year old car needed about $1,500 worth of radiator, hoses, and transmission fluid leaking into the radiator.  Well, about two weeks ago, the car will no longer hold oil.  It's coming out the oil pan, and heads, and needs another $1,500 worth of engine work.  Now I have to take her to work at 10:00 pm and pick her up at 6:00 am....  Ugh..!

Get her a bicycle   Meanwhile sounds like you better get a bucket for that car.

My wife said she wants a Toyota.  I check on the internet and there's allot of special deals with a $1,000 rebate making the price from $16,000 to $23,000.  I figured we could find some thing in the $17,000 - $19,000 range.  So we went to our local friendly home town Toyota dealer on Friday.

We made a deal on a Corolla for $20,000 with our sales man.  The Sales manager, who kept butting in and turning the deal into a high pressure sale, brought the contract over.  They write the deals at tables on the showroom, so your sitting in the middle of all the other salesmen and customers.  The Sales Manager brings the contract over, and points to the line I have to sign on, but his arm is over the figures so you can't see the deal.  I said, "let me take a look at this."  He wrote the deal at $21,000 instead of the $20,000 that was agreed upon.  When I asked him about it, he started raising his voice as he's explaining it. Basically, he wouldn't include the advertised $1,000 rebate.  I said, "that's not how you explained it 10 minutes ago.."  He said, "ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIAR...?"  I said, "No, I'm saying, YOU did not explain the EXTRA $1,000 increase...!"  My wife asked me, "what's going on..?"  I said, "this guy is pulling some thing on us, and it's going to cost us another $1,000.  I'm saying, "your not getting your new car..!"  My wife starts crying and everyone is looking at us.  The Sales Manager says, "It's only $1,000."  I said, "Well, your right, it's only money.  Let's see how you like some one taking money away from you...?  My offer now is $19,500 cash...  It's only money, except now it's yours..!  The Sales Manager looked at us as if he wanted to kill us...  He started pacing around the show room, coming up to our table and pacing again.  My wife is crying.  It was very traumatic and embarrassing.  I thought I might have to fight this guy, I'm serious.  He was basically trying to screw us out of the $1,000 rebate.  He was more concerned on taking that rebate away from us than selling the car.  But I don't know what advantage he would get from removing the rebate...?  Finally he came over to our table and said, "It's time for you two to leave..!"  And, threw us out.  I walked over to our salesman and said, "We had a deal, it was all table, what just happened..?"  The salesman is looking at me like, "my boss just took my sale away from me."  We went home and I checked Truecar and the Truecar deal for that car was $19,675.  My offer was only $175 off, and yet they threw us out... ugh..!

There are a lot of Toyota dealerships that are no nonsense....some are the hard sell like you had to deal with.  Do you have any other choices for dealerships?  I would also blast off a letter to Toyota of America about your dealings with the bozo's.  If you have a Mazda dealership around, consider a 3.

We have a Honda Dealership, but I'm not sure about the Civic (size and ride).  I doubt we could afford an Accord.  We do have a Mazda, Kia, Hyundia, VW, Ford, Chevy, Dodge, and I'm sure there are some others.  My wife had her heart set on that Corolla.  It had a very nice ride, quiet, and was showing 27 mpg around town.  Oh well.., another problem to solve.

[Travellin Dave]

It's a little bit of work on your part, but go around to a couple of different dealerships, Toyota or otherwise.  You can tell right away what is legit and what is bullshit.  With the internet, they can't get away with as much as they once did.  Find another decent dealership, get the deal then bring the little lady when all you have to do is pick a color.

[South Carolina Redfish]

It's a little bit of work on your part, but go around to a couple of different dealerships, Toyota or otherwise.  You can tell right away what is legit and what is bullshit.  With the internet, they can't get away with as much as they once did.  Find another decent dealership, get the deal then bring the little lady when all you have to do is pick a color.

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