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10/28/2025
« on: October 28, 2025, 12:36:23 AM »

Happy Tuesday! In between insults we'll occasionally discuss cigars.  Join in and perhaps learn something along the way. Warning: don't proceed if you have thin skin but don't be afraid to post either... And welcome aboard!
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2025, 02:29:04 AM »

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I understand you meant this for Travelin Dave, but allow me to answer, so that you can fully get my position.

Yes, I believe that there should be structures outside the executive branch that impose limits upon what the executive branch does with the resources that the executive branch controls. I always assumed this was part of the checks and balances our forefathers intended. But I'm sure you know the old adage about assuming.

Well, there is an open question about the separation of powers and the powers of the chief executive, which the SCOTUS is likely to settle this term as it reconsiders Humphrey's Executor v United States.  But the monuments in Washington DC are under the auspices of the National Park Service, which is an executive branch agency, and the White House itself is also under the auspices of the Committee to Preserve the White House (which was created by an executive order of LBJ) and the Capitol Planning Commission, which was enabled by an act of Congress, but is also an executive branch agency populated by presidential appointees. 

Followup question: Does it disturb you to learn that in 2009 Barack Obama, with private funding, installed basketball hoops and markings on Dwight Eisenhower's tennis court, and didn't submit the plans to the National Capitol Planning Commission?  Or is that too minor a change to bother with?
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2025, 02:34:40 AM »

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The White House had said it plans to submit the ballroom construction plan to the planning commission ‒ yet it went ahead with the East Wing demolition before doing so.

The director of the National Capitol Planning Commission (who also sits on the Committee for the Preservation of the White House, and whose main job, BTW, is Staff Secretary of the White House, under the Chief of Staff), said it had no jurisdiction over the demolition.  But he doesn't count?
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2025, 06:03:04 AM »

Morning, twofers.
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2025, 06:04:37 AM »

Joe:

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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2025, 06:05:59 AM »

Sis:

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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2025, 06:18:08 AM »

Morning, twofers.
Good morning, DaveDave.
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2025, 06:25:01 AM »



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I understand you meant this for Travelin Dave, but allow me to answer, so that you can fully get my position.

Yes, I believe that there should be structures outside the executive branch that impose limits upon what the executive branch does with the resources that the executive branch controls. I always assumed this was part of the checks and balances our forefathers intended. But I'm sure you know the old adage about assuming.

Well, there is an open question about the separation of powers and the powers of the chief executive, which the SCOTUS is likely to settle this term as it reconsiders Humphrey's Executor v United States.  But the monuments in Washington DC are under the auspices of the National Park Service, which is an executive branch agency, and the White House itself is also under the auspices of the Committee to Preserve the White House (which was created by an executive order of LBJ) and the Capitol Planning Commission, which was enabled by an act of Congress, but is also an executive branch agency populated by presidential appointees. 

Followup question: Does it disturb you to learn that in 2009 Barack Obama, with private funding, installed basketball hoops and markings on Dwight Eisenhower's tennis court, and didn't submit the plans to the National Capitol Planning Commission?  Or is that too minor a change to bother with?

I hadn't considered the basketball court change because it was relatively minor, but if that was done without submitting plans, then it does bother me. I wonder though, did Ike submit plans to put the tennis courts in to begin with?
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2025, 06:59:23 AM »

Sandwiches are made and it's just about commute time. Wish me luck.
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2025, 07:16:53 AM »

Sandwiches are made and it's just about commute time. Wish me luck.
May the traffic be light.
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2025, 08:17:37 AM »

Charger cord for the new work laptop is on the truck to be delivered sometime this morning.
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2025, 08:35:41 AM »

Prunella Scales, the actress best known for playing Sybil Fawlty, the intimidating wife of John Cleese‘s Basil on the ’70s British sitcom “Fawlty Towers,” has died. She was 93.

This is a shame, that show was fantastic.
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2025, 09:07:12 AM »

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I understand you meant this for Travelin Dave, but allow me to answer, so that you can fully get my position.

Yes, I believe that there should be structures outside the executive branch that impose limits upon what the executive branch does with the resources that the executive branch controls. I always assumed this was part of the checks and balances our forefathers intended. But I'm sure you know the old adage about assuming.

Well, there is an open question about the separation of powers and the powers of the chief executive, which the SCOTUS is likely to settle this term as it reconsiders Humphrey's Executor v United States.  But the monuments in Washington DC are under the auspices of the National Park Service, which is an executive branch agency, and the White House itself is also under the auspices of the Committee to Preserve the White House (which was created by an executive order of LBJ) and the Capitol Planning Commission, which was enabled by an act of Congress, but is also an executive branch agency populated by presidential appointees. 

Followup question: Does it disturb you to learn that in 2009 Barack Obama, with private funding, installed basketball hoops and markings on Dwight Eisenhower's tennis court, and didn't submit the plans to the National Capitol Planning Commission?  Or is that too minor a change to bother with?
You know it is.
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2025, 09:19:09 AM »

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The White House had said it plans to submit the ballroom construction plan to the planning commission ‒ yet it went ahead with the East Wing demolition before doing so.

The director of the National Capitol Planning Commission (who also sits on the Committee for the Preservation of the White House, and whose main job, BTW, is Staff Secretary of the White House, under the Chief of Staff), said it had no jurisdiction over the demolition.  But he doesn't count?
Not really.  As you have said previously, there is no longer a separation of powers as Trumpf learned from his first term (and following Project 2025 to the letter) he has placed mindless sycophants in all critical positions so there is no independent review or challenge to his mercurial whims by an impotent congress.
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Re: 10/28/2025
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2025, 09:31:13 AM »

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The White House had said it plans to submit the ballroom construction plan to the planning commission ‒ yet it went ahead with the East Wing demolition before doing so.

The director of the National Capitol Planning Commission (who also sits on the Committee for the Preservation of the White House, and whose main job, BTW, is Staff Secretary of the White House, under the Chief of Staff), said it had no jurisdiction over the demolition.  But he doesn't count?
Not really.  As you have said previously, there is no longer a separation of powers as Trumpf learned from his first term (and following Project 2025 to the letter) he has placed mindless sycophants in all critical positions so there is no independent review or challenge to his mercurial whims by an impotent congress.
Be we digress from the topic of White House -a-Lago.
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