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[Travellin Dave]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Think it's highly appropriate for the banter 

[razgueado]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Dave, I know why you said what you said, but I think thou dost protest too much. The guys that hang out here are smart people. We don't all agree on everything, but we agree on that. You and I have gotten into it on occasion, but have I ever disrespected you? If I did, I apologize. I don't argue with people I don't respect. It's a waste of time.

Yes, I know, people have abandoned this group because they didn't like what was said. That's sad, but...it's also stupid. Tony makes it clear every day that people here should have thick skin. I try to give as good as I get, and I'll give it thick and hard when I can. Insert obscene joke here.

But if I get pwned, I'll take my lumps. JWacky owned me on a regular basis, because he's a very, very smart guy. Sometimes it made me have to go bang my head on convenient walls. But I still get the occasional message from him, and if he ever sent me a message that he was in trouble, I'd be on the road to help before the second text came in.

There are no snowflakes here. You should be willing to engage me.

But do your homework, because if I can back you into a corner, I will. It's not personal. Just logic. I'll beat you if I can, and if I can't, I'll own that you beat me.

Fair enough?

[razgueado]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Think it's highly appropriate for the banter

This too.

[LuvTooGolf]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Think it's highly appropriate for the banter

Maybe it is, but I've tried to turn over a new leaf the last few months, and arguing on the banter is something I've left behind.

[razgueado]

Teacher stops potential school shooting, gets suspended. This fucking country, I swear...

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/teacher-suspended-restraining-armed-student-164158446.html

Sounds like something in Cali. or Washington, but Georgia?

What surprises you about it being Georgia?  The public education system in this country isn't subject to political leanings. It is uniformly dominated by the NEA, and the principles under which it functions are very much uniform across all fifty states. Local school boards do not have nearly the influence that the media tries to make out they do.

I would take argument with that for probably a majority of the country, specifically red states.  Our state legislation as with Florida and Texas have spend considerable time outlawing practices and initiating others for the public schools in the last couple years.

And yet there is consistent practice in the school systems pretty much across the board. Remember, I'm not just a casual observer here, I'm married to a certified teacher, who works primarily with deeply troubled kids. The kind who throw chairs.

In significant part, it has nothing to do with teachers or unions. It's the insurance companies and the courts. When you and I were kids, we feared getting sent to the principal's office, because it usually meant we were gonna get some "licks," and I don't mean sexual abuse. Nostalgia notwithstanding, was that really a good system? I experienced it in Texas in the mid 70's. As conservative as I am, and I definitely am, I'm not remotely convinced that was a good way to do things. Regardless of that, the insurance companies don't want teachers and administrators manhandling kids. There's too much risk there. And Golfin' Dave's sympathies notwithstanding, when I watch the video of the coach in Georgia, I do not see a man worried about protecting students from getting shot, I see a man who lost his shit because a kid disrespected him. Disrespect may be a problem that needs to be addressed, but not by a man who wants to kick some ass because he thought some punk insulted him. They know the gig. It isn't about their manhood.

[razgueado]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Think it's highly appropriate for the banter

Maybe it is, but I've tried to turn over a new leaf the last few months, and arguing on the banter is something I've left behind.

Then where DO you argue?

It has to be somewhere, why not here with people who respect each other?

[LuvTooGolf]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Think it's highly appropriate for the banter

Maybe it is, but I've tried to turn over a new leaf the last few months, and arguing on the banter is something I've left behind.

Then where DO you argue?

It has to be somewhere, why not here with people who respect each other?

Mostly just the wife, cause she's legally obligated to put up with it.

[razgueado]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Think it's highly appropriate for the banter

Maybe it is, but I've tried to turn over a new leaf the last few months, and arguing on the banter is something I've left behind.

Then where DO you argue?

It has to be somewhere, why not here with people who respect each other?

Mostly just the wife, cause she's legally obligated to put up with it.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

She ain't obligated to shit. You have better odds here. We can't nail your ass for child support.

[LuvTooGolf]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Think it's highly appropriate for the banter

Maybe it is, but I've tried to turn over a new leaf the last few months, and arguing on the banter is something I've left behind.

Then where DO you argue?

It has to be somewhere, why not here with people who respect each other?

Mostly just the wife, cause she's legally obligated to put up with it.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

She ain't obligated to shit. You have better odds here. We can't nail your ass for child support.

I'm not worried. She knows if she kicked me out, she'd be screwed the first time the toilet clogged.

[LuvTooGolf]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Think it's highly appropriate for the banter

Maybe it is, but I've tried to turn over a new leaf the last few months, and arguing on the banter is something I've left behind.

Then where DO you argue?

It has to be somewhere, why not here with people who respect each other?

Mostly just the wife, cause she's legally obligated to put up with it.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

She ain't obligated to shit. You have better odds here. We can't nail your ass for child support.

I'm not worried. She knows if she kicked me out, she'd be screwed the first time the toilet clogged.

Also, you know, the love.

[Travellin Dave]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Dave, I know why you said what you said, but I think thou dost protest too much. The guys that hang out here are smart people. We don't all agree on everything, but we agree on that. You and I have gotten into it on occasion, but have I ever disrespected you? If I did, I apologize. I don't argue with people I don't respect. It's a waste of time.

Yes, I know, people have abandoned this group because they didn't like what was said. That's sad, but...it's also stupid. Tony makes it clear every day that people here should have thick skin. I try to give as good as I get, and I'll give it thick and hard when I can. Insert obscene joke here.

But if I get pwned, I'll take my lumps. JWacky owned me on a regular basis, because he's a very, very smart guy. Sometimes it made me have to go bang my head on convenient walls. But I still get the occasional message from him, and if he ever sent me a message that he was in trouble, I'd be on the road to help before the second text came in.

There are no snowflakes here. You should be willing to engage me.

But do your homework, because if I can back you into a corner, I will. It's not personal. Just logic. I'll beat you if I can, and if I can't, I'll own that you beat me.

Fair enough?

I always enjoy discussions with you.
If we only talked with people we agree with, and don't challenge ourselves to listen and understand, we don't have to think and broaden our view.
I don't take offense easily, and never feel that from you.
All good.

[Travellin Dave]

And now, I bid you hazzuh!

Oh, you just dump bad news then hit the door?

In my defense, I wasn't expecting it to turn into a thing or I never would've shared it.

Think it's highly appropriate for the banter

Maybe it is, but I've tried to turn over a new leaf the last few months, and arguing on the banter is something I've left behind.

Then where DO you argue?

It has to be somewhere, why not here with people who respect each other?

Discussion and differences of opinion are different than arguing.  To me arguing is when you have no room for a difference of opinion and is an excercise in beating your head against a wall.  I no longer have the time or energy for that futile exercise.

[Oyam18]

Put in an offer on a place today. Now let’s see. Things don’t last over 2 days here if they are anywhere near livable.

[LuvTooGolf]

Put in an offer on a place today. Now let’s see. Things don’t last over 2 days here if they are anywhere near livable.

That's pretty exciting, good luck!

[Travellin Dave]

Nice mild evening. Southern Draw Manzanita.