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[South Carolina Redfish]

Went with Famous...tacked on another box of CyB's (which got me free shipping and X8 cutter) and used a 20% off $150 coupon.  $123 and change out the door.
That's a score!

Seemed okay to me.  The Dona Elenas are an impulse buy, as I have no experience with them.  But I like Carillo's handiwork.  And hey, they made the CA list, so they have to be good, right?

Exactly!

They made CA's and JoeWacky/NJDaveinReno's list...so its gotta be legit!

But TX Dave didn't approve, if I recall...

I don't approve of anything with ERC attached to it's name!  He shit the bed with me on his $13 ripoff garbage inaugural edicion's sold only by the box.  Oh yeah and Fuck Joe.

I'll pass on fucking Joe, but do tell about the Edicion Inagural - did you buy a box and they sucked?

Yes, they were some of the crappiest made cigars I have ever seen and smoke was so-so but that is personal taste.  Tried them about 2 times a year for 3 years then gave up and threw them away.  I was an LGC fan for many years and still am but those inaugurals were trash with wrappers so thin they just fell apart while smoking them and poor burn quality.  Oh yeah pre-ordered the rare bastards and waited 3 months for them.  $130 + shipping for 10.

Ohh yeah, he's mad!   

And you guys just keep poking the bear...

Oh yeah these enabling bastards drive me to another rant about twice a year on this topic.  It was really the shitty construction quality/$ that got me so pissed off.

Just don't delete your account - no one respects that move  
All kidding aside, I agree with Raz on his last comment - too many good cigars out there, quality competition is high.

I might delete somebody else's account but I am much to honary to delete my own

[CigarGuy87]

Went with Famous...tacked on another box of CyB's (which got me free shipping and X8 cutter) and used a 20% off $150 coupon.  $123 and change out the door.
That's a score!

Seemed okay to me.  The Dona Elenas are an impulse buy, as I have no experience with them.  But I like Carillo's handiwork.  And hey, they made the CA list, so they have to be good, right?

Exactly!

They made CA's and JoeWacky/NJDaveinReno's list...so its gotta be legit!

But TX Dave didn't approve, if I recall...

I don't approve of anything with ERC attached to it's name!  He shit the bed with me on his $13 ripoff garbage inaugural edicion's sold only by the box.  Oh yeah and Fuck Joe.

I'll pass on fucking Joe, but do tell about the Edicion Inagural - did you buy a box and they sucked?

Yes, they were some of the crappiest made cigars I have ever seen and smoke was so-so but that is peronal taste.  Tried them about 2 times a year for 3 years then gave up and threw them away.  I was an LGC fan for many years and still am but those inaugural's were trash with wrappers so thin they just fell apart while smoking them and poor burn quality.  Oh yeah pre-ordered the rare bastards and waited 3 months for them.  $130 + shipping for 10.

Similar to my experience with Graycliffs.  Got some as a free add-on to a CI order.  First was plugged, so I took it apart...looked more like a briar patch in there than a cigar.  Second was plugged.  I threw the rest away and have zero temptation to buy any Graycliffs. 

My first experience with Carrillos were the Short Run Vintage.  Meh.  But then everyone was talking about the Core Short Runs so I ordered some.  Now I've got like 50 stashed in the humidor. Love those damned things.  Will see about these Dona Elenas.

But I understand about bad experiences.  With so many options out there, not much motivation to ever give a maker a second chance after he screwed you.

I actually think it was the disapointment after high expectations that keeps it from going away.  It was not like one bad burn or 1 thin wrapper but was very consistent though the box.  And like you said there are a bunch of fine cigars out there to pick from.

The Tat TAA 13 was like that for me - the wrappers were so fragile, and they came without cello, and easily 2/3 of mine cracked and needed repair with pectin to try and salvage them.

[South Carolina Redfish]

Fuk cigars I want to go to Cuba to fish.

[CigarGuy87]

Fuk cigars I want to go to Cuba to fish.

COMMIES!

[razgueado]

Went with Famous...tacked on another box of CyB's (which got me free shipping and X8 cutter) and used a 20% off $150 coupon.  $123 and change out the door.
That's a score!

Seemed okay to me.  The Dona Elenas are an impulse buy, as I have no experience with them.  But I like Carillo's handiwork.  And hey, they made the CA list, so they have to be good, right?

Exactly!

They made CA's and JoeWacky/NJDaveinReno's list...so its gotta be legit!

But TX Dave didn't approve, if I recall...

I don't approve of anything with ERC attached to it's name!  He shit the bed with me on his $13 ripoff garbage inaugural edicion's sold only by the box.  Oh yeah and Fuck Joe.

I'll pass on fucking Joe, but do tell about the Edicion Inagural - did you buy a box and they sucked?

Yes, they were some of the crappiest made cigars I have ever seen and smoke was so-so but that is peronal taste.  Tried them about 2 times a year for 3 years then gave up and threw them away.  I was an LGC fan for many years and still am but those inaugural's were trash with wrappers so thin they just fell apart while smoking them and poor burn quality.  Oh yeah pre-ordered the rare bastards and waited 3 months for them.  $130 + shipping for 10.

Similar to my experience with Graycliffs.  Got some as a free add-on to a CI order.  First was plugged, so I took it apart...looked more like a briar patch in there than a cigar.  Second was plugged.  I threw the rest away and have zero temptation to buy any Graycliffs. 

My first experience with Carrillos were the Short Run Vintage.  Meh.  But then everyone was talking about the Core Short Runs so I ordered some.  Now I've got like 50 stashed in the humidor. Love those damned things.  Will see about these Dona Elenas.

But I understand about bad experiences.  With so many options out there, not much motivation to ever give a maker a second chance after he screwed you.

I actually think it was the disapointment after high expectations that keeps it from going away. 

Wait, are we discussing cigars or marriage?

[South Carolina Redfish]

Fuk cigars I want to go to Cuba to fish.

COMMIES!

And the District of Columbia is NOT?

[South Carolina Redfish]

Went with Famous...tacked on another box of CyB's (which got me free shipping and X8 cutter) and used a 20% off $150 coupon.  $123 and change out the door.
That's a score!

Seemed okay to me.  The Dona Elenas are an impulse buy, as I have no experience with them.  But I like Carillo's handiwork.  And hey, they made the CA list, so they have to be good, right?

Exactly!

They made CA's and JoeWacky/NJDaveinReno's list...so its gotta be legit!

But TX Dave didn't approve, if I recall...

I don't approve of anything with ERC attached to it's name!  He shit the bed with me on his $13 ripoff garbage inaugural edicion's sold only by the box.  Oh yeah and Fuck Joe.

I'll pass on fucking Joe, but do tell about the Edicion Inagural - did you buy a box and they sucked?

Yes, they were some of the crappiest made cigars I have ever seen and smoke was so-so but that is peronal taste.  Tried them about 2 times a year for 3 years then gave up and threw them away.  I was an LGC fan for many years and still am but those inaugural's were trash with wrappers so thin they just fell apart while smoking them and poor burn quality.  Oh yeah pre-ordered the rare bastards and waited 3 months for them.  $130 + shipping for 10.

Similar to my experience with Graycliffs.  Got some as a free add-on to a CI order.  First was plugged, so I took it apart...looked more like a briar patch in there than a cigar.  Second was plugged.  I threw the rest away and have zero temptation to buy any Graycliffs. 

My first experience with Carrillos were the Short Run Vintage.  Meh.  But then everyone was talking about the Core Short Runs so I ordered some.  Now I've got like 50 stashed in the humidor. Love those damned things.  Will see about these Dona Elenas.

But I understand about bad experiences.  With so many options out there, not much motivation to ever give a maker a second chance after he screwed you.

I actually think it was the disapointment after high expectations that keeps it from going away. 

Wait, are we discussing cigars or marriage?

Well I guess it could go either way now that you mention it.

[razgueado]

Fuk cigars I want to go to Cuba to fish.

COMMIES!

And the District of Columbia is NOT?

No, that's Fascism.

[CigarGuy87]

Fuk cigars I want to go to Cuba to fish.

COMMIES!

And the District of Columbia is NOT?

We won't even go there...just happy they signed Sec 179 and the Depreciation bill yesterday

[South Carolina Redfish]

Fuk cigars I want to go to Cuba to fish.

COMMIES!

And the District of Columbia is NOT?

We won't even go there...just happy they signed Sec 179 and the Depreciation bill yesterday

Along with apponting one of the most radical anti-gun nuts on U.S. Soil to the Surgeon General postion where he can try to fight them as a health hazzard now that the bogus Ebola threat has been forgotten.

[CigarGuy87]

Here's a little pick me up:

[CigarGuy87]

Not sure I can make it until 5 tonight

[South Carolina Redfish]

Not sure I can make it until 5 tonight

Almost there, Raz and I will keep you company while the rest of these Sheeshers work.

[South Carolina Redfish]

I am running light years behind and now got to go to Houston tomorrow dammit.  I am trying to get the warden a few little Christmas items purchased.

[South Carolina Redfish]

Guy is still stuck on $1750 for that Pendergast humidor.