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Title: 11/6/2024
Post by: CigarBanter on November 06, 2024, 01:38:34 AM
Any hump day deals on the various internet sites that are worth talking about? Join in this discussion and perhaps learn something along the way. Warning: don't proceed if you have thin skin but don't be afraid to post either... And welcome aboard.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 06:13:50 AM
Good morning, my friends. Let's see what Joe and his sister have picked out for us today.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 06:16:25 AM
Joe's Jambalaya:

Alec Bradley Superstition No. 13 (4.5"x50) - 10 / $29.99
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 06:17:49 AM
Turns out we're jamming. That seems an ironic first offering. (First that I'm seeing, anyway).
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 06:33:05 AM
Cigar.com:

Door #1 - Romeo y Julieta Reserva Real Toro (6.0"x54) - 15 / $89.99
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 06:34:08 AM
Cigar.com:

Door #2 - Drew Estate Undercrown Gran Toro (6.0"x52) - 10 / $49.99
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 06:34:52 AM
Cigar.com:

Door #3 - Montecristo Viejo Vitola R (Robusto) (5.0"x54) - 5 / $24.99
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 06:39:00 AM
Joe's Jambalaya:

Alec Bradley Superstition No. 13 (4.5"x50) - 10 / $29.99
5 Vegas Classic Double Corona (6.0"x48) -  15 / $37.50
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 06:39:57 AM
Jamming and humping. A celebration of sorts?
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 07:53:09 AM
Another day, another frustrating interaction with the dealer/repair shop.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 07:58:00 AM
Joe's Jambalaya:

Alec Bradley Superstition No. 13 (4.5"x50) - 10 / $29.99
5 Vegas Classic Double Corona (6.0"x48) -  15 / $37.50
Macanudo Inspirado White Robusto (5.0"x50) - 10 / $32.50
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 08:03:25 AM
Another day, another frustrating interaction with the dealer/repair shop.
I'm sitting at the dealer waiting for my rental car. Almost an hour later than they had promised to get me out the door. Looks like I'll be working remotely.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 08:57:51 AM
Jamming and humping. A celebration of sorts?
Needing all the celebrations we can get.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 09:04:01 AM
Wonder if Trumpf is going to have his Putin like parade like he wanted last inauguration.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 09:07:43 AM
Wonder if Trumpf is going to have his Putin like parade like he wanted last inauguration.
I'm not sure if anything at all can shock me now.

Good morning, RedStateDave.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 09:08:27 AM
Joe's Jambalaya:

Alec Bradley Superstition No. 13 (4.5"x50) - 10 / $29.99
5 Vegas Classic Double Corona (6.0"x48) -  15 / $37.50
Macanudo Inspirado White Robusto (5.0"x50) - 10 / $32.50
Camacho Ecuador Robusto (5.0"x50) - 5 / $22.50
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 09:09:22 AM
First meeting is upon me. Ciao, for now.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: LuvTooGolf on November 06, 2024, 09:36:07 AM
Wonder if Trumpf is going to have his Putin like parade like he wanted last inauguration.
I'm not sure if anything at all can shock me now.

Good morning, RedStateDave.
This is definitely not shock, like it was in 2016. This is more like dread. Partly for myself, but mostly for my wife and daughters. For my BIL who will likely lose his health insurance at some point, then soon after, his life. For my in-laws who are already on social security and for my parents, who might've been in the next 5-7 years. For all the members of the LGBTQ community I know who are now in crosshairs.

I don't have the mental bandwidth for any social media right now, so I'll be taking a break. May your drinks be cold and your cigars plentiful, BOTLs.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 09:52:35 AM
Wonder if Trumpf is going to have his Putin like parade like he wanted last inauguration.
I'm not sure if anything at all can shock me now.

Good morning, RedStateDave.
This is definitely not shock, like it was in 2016. This is more like dread. Partly for myself, but mostly for my wife and daughters. For my BIL who will likely lose his health insurance at some point, then soon after, his life. For my in-laws who are already on social security and for my parents, who might've been in the next 5-7 years. For all the members of the LGBTQ community I know who are now in crosshairs.

I don't have the mental bandwidth for any social media right now, so I'll be taking a break. May your drinks be cold and your cigars plentiful, BOTLs.
Appreciate you stopping by. Good luck to ya.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 09:53:27 AM
Joe's Jambalaya:

Alec Bradley Superstition No. 13 (4.5"x50) - 10 / $29.99
5 Vegas Classic Double Corona (6.0"x48) -  15 / $37.50
Macanudo Inspirado White Robusto (5.0"x50) - 10 / $32.50
Camacho Ecuador Robusto (5.0"x50) - 5 / $22.50
Partagas Legend Toro Leyenda (6.2"x54) - 10 / $49.99
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 10:00:46 AM
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 10:03:34 AM
Today is Wednesday, Nov. 6, the 311th day of 2024.
There are 55 days left in the year.



Today in history:

On Nov. 6, 1860, former Illinois congressman Abraham Lincoln of the Republican Party was elected President of the United States as he defeated John Breckinridge, John Bell and Stephen Douglas.



Also on this date:

In 1861, James Naismith, the inventor of basketball, was born in Almonte, Ontario, Canada.

In 1888, Republican presidential candidate Benjamin Harrison won the electoral vote over incumbent Democrat Grover Cleveland, despite Cleveland gaining 90,000 more total votes; it would be the last time the popular vote winner would lose the election until 2000.

In 1947, “Meet the Press,” the longest-running television show in America, made its debut on NBC; the host was the show’s co-creator, Martha Rountree.

In 1956, President Dwight D. Eisenhower won reelection, defeating Democratic nominee Adlai Stevenson II for the second time.

In 1977, 39 people were killed when the Kelly Barnes Dam in Georgia burst, sending a wall of water through Toccoa Falls College.

In 1984, President Ronald Reagan easily won reelection over former Vice President Walter Mondale, the Democratic challenger who won just one state, his native Minnesota.

In 2012, President Barack Obama won reelection, vanquishing Republican former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 332 electoral votes to Romney’s 206.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 10:22:17 AM
Today’s Birthdays:

Actor Sally Field is 78.
Jazz musician Arturo Sandoval is 75.
Author Michael Cunningham is 72.
Journalist-author Maria Shriver is 69.
Author Colson Whitehead is 55.
Actor Ethan Hawke is 54.
Actor Thandiwe (tan-DEE’-way) Newton is 52.
Model-actor Rebecca Romijn (roh-MAYN’) is 52.
Actor Taryn Manning is 46.
Actor Emma Stone is 36.
Comedian-actor Bowen Yang is 34.
Olympic swimming gold medalist Bobby Finke is 25.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 10:28:52 AM
Today's Over/Under is 5
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 10:39:45 AM

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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 11:16:44 AM
Today’s Birthdays:

Actor Sally Field is 78.
Jazz musician Arturo Sandoval is 75.
Author Michael Cunningham is 72.
Journalist-author Maria Shriver is 69.
Author Colson Whitehead is 55.
Actor Ethan Hawke is 54.
Actor Thandiwe (tan-DEE’-way) Newton is 52.
Model-actor Rebecca Romijn (roh-MAYN’) is 52.
Actor Taryn Manning is 46.
Actor Emma Stone is 36.
Comedian-actor Bowen Yang is 34.
Olympic swimming gold medalist Bobby Finke is 25.

Today's Over/Under is 5
Eight.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 01:03:23 PM
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: razgueado on November 06, 2024, 01:24:36 PM
Morning, muchachos.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: razgueado on November 06, 2024, 01:26:37 PM
Today’s Birthdays:

Actor Sally Field is 78.
Jazz musician Arturo Sandoval is 75.
Author Michael Cunningham is 72.
Journalist-author Maria Shriver is 69.
Author Colson Whitehead is 55.
Actor Ethan Hawke is 54.
Actor Thandiwe (tan-DEE’-way) Newton is 52.
Model-actor Rebecca Romijn (roh-MAYN’) is 52.
Actor Taryn Manning is 46.
Actor Emma Stone is 36.
Comedian-actor Bowen Yang is 34.
Olympic swimming gold medalist Bobby Finke is 25.
Six.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: razgueado on November 06, 2024, 01:44:11 PM
Wonder if Trumpf is going to have his Putin like parade like he wanted last inauguration.
I'm not sure if anything at all can shock me now.

Good morning, RedStateDave.
This is definitely not shock, like it was in 2016. This is more like dread. Partly for myself, but mostly for my wife and daughters. For my BIL who will likely lose his health insurance at some point, then soon after, his life. For my in-laws who are already on social security and for my parents, who might've been in the next 5-7 years. For all the members of the LGBTQ community I know who are now in crosshairs.

I don't have the mental bandwidth for any social media right now, so I'll be taking a break. May your drinks be cold and your cigars plentiful, BOTLs.
I fear you fret too much, and needlessly.  Obamacare isn't going anywhere, neither is Social Security, and the LGBTQ community is not in any crosshairs that have any ammunition to fire.  The Republican party platform has been profoundly softened since 2016, and, surprisingly enough, it was Trump that did it.  This is not a landslide, not a mandate.  It's 5 million some-odd votes.  3 million less than Biden won by in 2020.  No way is Trump getting a free hand, even with a red congress.  Trump may be term-limited, but the Republicans in Congress are not, and they'll want to get reelected. They're not going to let Trump do anything that threatens their reelection.

This election was turned by the middle class, and it was the economy and the border that turned it - not LGBTQ issues, not healthcare, not Social Security, not abortion.  The middle class wants fiscal discipline and lower costs of living, and they want discipline at the border.  That's the message of this election, and it came from a significant number of Black and Latino voices that voted Republican.  If the Republican Party tries to turn this into anything else, then those voices are going to abandon them and paint DC all kinds of blue in two years, and Trump will be a lame duck for the rest of his term.

For the moment, at least, the Republican Party is wearing a new suit.  We'll see if it grows that into a whole new wardrobe.  I'd like to see that happen, but I'm skeptical.  But it's not the time for anyone to panic. 
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 02:53:12 PM

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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 03:01:05 PM
Wonder if Trumpf is going to have his Putin like parade like he wanted last inauguration.
I'm not sure if anything at all can shock me now.

Good morning, RedStateDave.
This is definitely not shock, like it was in 2016. This is more like dread. Partly for myself, but mostly for my wife and daughters. For my BIL who will likely lose his health insurance at some point, then soon after, his life. For my in-laws who are already on social security and for my parents, who might've been in the next 5-7 years. For all the members of the LGBTQ community I know who are now in crosshairs.

I don't have the mental bandwidth for any social media right now, so I'll be taking a break. May your drinks be cold and your cigars plentiful, BOTLs.
I fear you fret too much, and needlessly.  Obamacare isn't going anywhere, neither is Social Security, and the LGBTQ community is not in any crosshairs that have any ammunition to fire.  The Republican party platform has been profoundly softened since 2016, and, surprisingly enough, it was Trump that did it.  This is not a landslide, not a mandate.  It's 5 million some-odd votes.  3 million less than Biden won by in 2020.  No way is Trump getting a free hand, even with a red congress.  Trump may be term-limited, but the Republicans in Congress are not, and they'll want to get reelected. They're not going to let Trump do anything that threatens their reelection.

This election was turned by the middle class, and it was the economy and the border that turned it - not LGBTQ issues, not healthcare, not Social Security, not abortion.  The middle class wants fiscal discipline and lower costs of living, and they want discipline at the border.  That's the message of this election, and it came from a significant number of Black and Latino voices that voted Republican.  If the Republican Party tries to turn this into anything else, then those voices are going to abandon them and paint DC all kinds of blue in two years, and Trump will be a lame duck for the rest of his term.

For the moment, at least, the Republican Party is wearing a new suit.  We'll see if it grows that into a whole new wardrobe.  I'd like to see that happen, but I'm skeptical.  But it's not the time for anyone to panic.
I applaud you optimism, and do hope it is as tempered as you assert.  I however had hoped for a split congress to mitigate excesses.  I don't have the same faith that full Republican control (or Democrat for that matter) is in our best interest.  I unfortunately feel that Trumps vindictiveness will target Obamacare that he desperately tried to bury last time IS in the crosshairs.  As far as other excesses, we shall see.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 03:02:12 PM
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 03:02:42 PM
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 03:12:55 PM
Morning, muchachos.
Hello, my friend. It's been a super busy day at work, and we're down a member, so the banter is slow going. I like what you said, and now, only time will tell what the next four years will bring us. I'd like to think that, as a nation, no one could ever be so powerful as to jeopardize democracy. I'll tell you what I'd love to see: election reform. The two-party system, with all its PAC monies, makes me uneasy.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: razgueado on November 06, 2024, 03:24:45 PM
Morning, muchachos.
Hello, my friend. It's been a super busy day at work, and we're down a member, so the banter is slow going. I like what you said, and now, only time will tell what the next four years will bring us. I'd like to think that, as a nation, no one could ever be so powerful as to jeopardize democracy. I'll tell you what I'd love to see: election reform. The two-party system, with all its PAC monies, makes me uneasy.
Democracy is the worst form of government ever conceived, save for all the others.

Money talks. It always has, and it always will.

But cheer up. Most of the billionaires in this election were backing Harris, and the middle class still managed to elect Trump. So money isn't everything.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 03:52:44 PM
Morning, muchachos.
Hello, my friend. It's been a super busy day at work, and we're down a member, so the banter is slow going. I like what you said, and now, only time will tell what the next four years will bring us. I'd like to think that, as a nation, no one could ever be so powerful as to jeopardize democracy. I'll tell you what I'd love to see: election reform. The two-party system, with all its PAC monies, makes me uneasy.
Democracy is the worst form of government ever conceived, save for all the others.

Money talks. It always has, and it always will.

But cheer up. Most of the billionaires in this election were backing Harris, and the middle class still managed to elect Trump. So money isn't everything.

My point is that it would be great if the candidates didn't harass me for more money every few minutes, AND how wonderful if someone qualified with no money at all could compete in the race on equal footing. I do recognize that it will never happen. The Democrats made such a big deal over Kamala's $1B, and even if she had won, I think it is a complete waste of money. I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: razgueado on November 06, 2024, 04:18:36 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.

Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 04:29:17 PM
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 04:31:16 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.
I don't believe every person that runs considers themselves "Uniquely Qualified". 
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 05:08:43 PM
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 05:12:49 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.

I guess, I don't know. I'm sure I'm being naive, but I'd love to believe there is a civil servant out there that is prepared to lead for the greater good.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 06:01:02 PM
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: razgueado on November 06, 2024, 06:22:45 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.
I don't believe every person that runs considers themselves "Uniquely Qualified".
I'd find anyone who thinks they are at all qualified to govern others sketchy at best. 
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: razgueado on November 06, 2024, 06:33:27 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.

I guess, I don't know. I'm sure I'm being naive, but I'd love to believe there is a civil servant out there that is prepared to lead for the greater good.
Define "the greater good."  I kinda suspect you and I don't define it the same way, which is why politics is competitive.    ;)
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 06:47:35 PM
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 06:49:58 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.

I guess, I don't know. I'm sure I'm being naive, but I'd love to believe there is a civil servant out there that is prepared to lead for the greater good.
Define "the greater good."  I kinda suspect you and I don't define it the same way, which is why politics is competitive.    ;)
I would define it as doing things that benefit the most number of people, even if it doesn't benefit oneself.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: razgueado on November 06, 2024, 06:53:54 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.

I guess, I don't know. I'm sure I'm being naive, but I'd love to believe there is a civil servant out there that is prepared to lead for the greater good.
Define "the greater good."  I kinda suspect you and I don't define it the same way, which is why politics is competitive.    ;)
I would define it as doing things that benefit the most number of people, even if it doesn't benefit oneself.
Fair enough. 

I believe that what benefits the most people is the least involvement of government.  "That government governs best which governs least."  Are we still on the same page, or have we slipped onto different pages? 
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 07:03:54 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.

I guess, I don't know. I'm sure I'm being naive, but I'd love to believe there is a civil servant out there that is prepared to lead for the greater good.
Define "the greater good."  I kinda suspect you and I don't define it the same way, which is why politics is competitive.    ;)
I would define it as doing things that benefit the most number of people, even if it doesn't benefit oneself.
Fair enough. 

I believe that what benefits the most people is the least involvement of government.  "That government governs best which governs least."  Are we still on the same page, or have we slipped onto different pages?
I think we have a divergence, but that's ok. I get your point and I think that in a perfect world that would work. Unfortunately, I believe most folks require a hand, in order to get there. The greatest country in the world can offer such a hand. “A rising tide lifts all boats”. Blah, blah, blah.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 07:21:22 PM
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: razgueado on November 06, 2024, 07:43:45 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.

I guess, I don't know. I'm sure I'm being naive, but I'd love to believe there is a civil servant out there that is prepared to lead for the greater good.
Define "the greater good."  I kinda suspect you and I don't define it the same way, which is why politics is competitive.    ;)
I would define it as doing things that benefit the most number of people, even if it doesn't benefit oneself.
Fair enough. 

I believe that what benefits the most people is the least involvement of government.  "That government governs best which governs least."  Are we still on the same page, or have we slipped onto different pages?
I think we have a divergence, but that's ok. I get your point and I think that in a perfect world that would work. Unfortunately, I believe most folks require a hand, in order to get there. The greatest country in the world can offer such a hand. “A rising tide lifts all boats”. Blah, blah, blah.
But there's where it gets complicated.  We both want the most good for the most people, but we don't agree on what that is. So we rely on the wisdom of crowds.  Competition.  We put up candidates and let them duke it out and we vote.  And the candidate that puts all the right pieces together in the right places at the right time wins.

I get it.  Y'all are disappointed because your team lost this one, and it particularly stings that some folks who you thought were reliably on your team joined the other side. 

Buck up!  There's always next year. 

Well, year after next.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on November 06, 2024, 08:29:48 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.

I guess, I don't know. I'm sure I'm being naive, but I'd love to believe there is a civil servant out there that is prepared to lead for the greater good.
Define "the greater good."  I kinda suspect you and I don't define it the same way, which is why politics is competitive.    ;)
I would define it as doing things that benefit the most number of people, even if it doesn't benefit oneself.
Fair enough. 

I believe that what benefits the most people is the least involvement of government.  "That government governs best which governs least."  Are we still on the same page, or have we slipped onto different pages?
I think we have a divergence, but that's ok. I get your point and I think that in a perfect world that would work. Unfortunately, I believe most folks require a hand, in order to get there. The greatest country in the world can offer such a hand. “A rising tide lifts all boats”. Blah, blah, blah.
But there's where it gets complicated.  We both want the most good for the most people, but we don't agree on what that is. So we rely on the wisdom of crowds.  Competition.  We put up candidates and let them duke it out and we vote.  And the candidate that puts all the right pieces together in the right places at the right time wins.

I get it.  Y'all are disappointed because your team lost this one, and it particularly stings that some folks who you thought were reliably on your team joined the other side. 

Buck up!  There's always next year. 

Well, year after next.
I was really talking in generalities, and just trying to answer your questions as best I could. I've accepted the result of this election and plan to make the best of it.

Edit: I won't be storming the Capitol.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
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Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 10:39:01 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.

I guess, I don't know. I'm sure I'm being naive, but I'd love to believe there is a civil servant out there that is prepared to lead for the greater good.
Define "the greater good."  I kinda suspect you and I don't define it the same way, which is why politics is competitive.    ;)
I would define it as doing things that benefit the most number of people, even if it doesn't benefit oneself.
Fair enough. 

I believe that what benefits the most people is the least involvement of government.  "That government governs best which governs least."  Are we still on the same page, or have we slipped onto different pages?
I think we have a divergence, but that's ok. I get your point and I think that in a perfect world that would work. Unfortunately, I believe most folks require a hand, in order to get there. The greatest country in the world can offer such a hand. “A rising tide lifts all boats”. Blah, blah, blah.
But there's where it gets complicated.  We both want the most good for the most people, but we don't agree on what that is. So we rely on the wisdom of crowds.  Competition.  We put up candidates and let them duke it out and we vote.  And the candidate that puts all the right pieces together in the right places at the right time wins.

I get it.  Y'all are disappointed because your team lost this one, and it particularly stings that some folks who you thought were reliably on your team joined the other side. 

Buck up!  There's always next year. 

Well, year after next.
Not quite right...as I've said before i'm a lifelong Republican...but I'm not a Trumpican.  I didn't vote for. I voted against.
Title: Re: 11/6/2024
Post by: Travellin Dave on November 06, 2024, 10:40:41 PM
I can't ever recall voting for someone I liked rather than against someone I liked less. That's just sad.
 

Tony...please.  I want you to go look in a mirror and ask yourself this question: "What kind of person comes to the conclusion that they are uniquely qualified to govern other people?"

Then ask yourself if you want your daughter to marry such a person.

I guess, I don't know. I'm sure I'm being naive, but I'd love to believe there is a civil servant out there that is prepared to lead for the greater good.
Define "the greater good."  I kinda suspect you and I don't define it the same way, which is why politics is competitive.    ;)
I would define it as doing things that benefit the most number of people, even if it doesn't benefit oneself.
Fair enough. 

I believe that what benefits the most people is the least involvement of government.  "That government governs best which governs least."  Are we still on the same page, or have we slipped onto different pages?
I think we have a divergence, but that's ok. I get your point and I think that in a perfect world that would work. Unfortunately, I believe most folks require a hand, in order to get there. The greatest country in the world can offer such a hand. “A rising tide lifts all boats”. Blah, blah, blah.
But there's where it gets complicated.  We both want the most good for the most people, but we don't agree on what that is. So we rely on the wisdom of crowds.  Competition.  We put up candidates and let them duke it out and we vote.  And the candidate that puts all the right pieces together in the right places at the right time wins.

I get it.  Y'all are disappointed because your team lost this one, and it particularly stings that some folks who you thought were reliably on your team joined the other side. 

Buck up!  There's always next year. 

Well, year after next.
I was really talking in generalities, and just trying to answer your questions as best I could. I've accepted the result of this election and plan to make the best of it.

Edit: I won't be storming the Capitol.
They're all going to be released as patriots anyway