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Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 01:52:03 AM
Good Monday morning from JWackyland.Hopefully you are crashing now at the hotel.
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:10:59 AM
1509 - Pope Julius II excommunicates Italian state of Venice
1518 - Treaty of St Truiden: anti-French Trapdoors/Bourgondisch covenant
1522 - Battle at Bicacca: Charles I & Pope Adrianus VI beat France
1526 - Mogol King Babur beats sultan of Delhi
1565 - 1st Spanish settlement in Philippines, Cebu City, forms
1576 - Peace of Beaulieu & Paix de Monsieur
1643 - Tirso de Molina's "Bellaco Sois, Gomez," premieres in Madrid
1646 - King Charles I flees Oxford
1650 - Scottish general Montrose defeated
1662 - Netherlands & France sign military covenant
1694 - Frederik August I "the Strong" becomes monarch of Saksen
1746 - Battle at Culloden Moor: Duke of Cumberland beats "James VIII & III"
1773 - British Parliament passes Tea Act (Boston won't like this)
1805 - US Marines attack shores of Tripoli
1813 - Americans under Gen Pike capture Toronto; Pike is killed
1828 - Zoological Gardens at Regent's Park London, opens
1838 - Fire destroys half of Charleston
1841 - Imakita Kosen, 1st Zen teacher of D.T. Suzuki, found the awakening
1857 - Establishment of Jewish congregations in Lower Austria prohibited
1859 - "Pomona" sinks in North Atlantic drowning all 400 aboard
1860 - Thomas J Jackson is assigned to command Harpers Ferry
1861 - President Abe Lincoln suspends writ of habeas corpus
1861 - West Virginia secedes from Virginia after Virginia secedes from US
1863 - Battle of Streight's raid: Tuscumbia to Cedar Bluff, AL
1865 - Cornell University (Ithaca NY) is chartered
1865 - Steamboat "Sultana" explodes in Mississippi River, kills up to 1,547. 1450 of 2000 paroled Union POWs on their way home are killed when river steamer "Sultana" blows up
1867 - Opera "Rom‚o et Juliette" is produced (Paris)
1870 - Heinrich Schliemann discovers Troi
1874 - White League, Paramilitary white supremacist organization, forms
1877 - Opera "Le Roi de Lahore" is produced (Paris)
1877 - President Hayes removes Federal troops from LA, Reconstruction ends
1881 - Pogroms against Russian Jews start in Elisabethgrad
1890 - French troops under Capt Archinard occupy Ouss‚bougou West Sudan
1897 - Grant's Tomb (famed of song & legend) dedicated
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:11:57 AM
1903 - Long Island's Jamaica Race Track opens
1905 - World Exposition opens in Luik
1908 - 4th modern Olympic games opens in London
1909 - Sultan of Turkey Abdul Hamid II is overthrown
1910 - Belgian parliament rejects socialist motion for general voting rights
1912 - Relief laws replaces those of 1854, in Netherlands
1918 - Giants' 9-0 winning start & Dodgers' 0-9 losing streak are stopped
1920 - Pogrom leader Petljoera declares Ukraine Independence
1921 - Hadjememaar, [Corn de Gelder] elected in Amsterdam
1922 - Fritz Langs "Dr Mabuse, der Spieler" premieres in Berlin
1922 - Yakut ASSR formed in Russian SFSR
1923 - Mussolini govt italian place in South Tirol/Alto Adige
1924 - Antwerp soccer tie Belgium-Netherlands 1-1
1926 - In the Giants' 9-8 win over Phillies, Mel Ott, 17, 1st appearance
1931 - 100ø F (38ø C), Pahala, Hawaii (state record)
1933 - Karl Jansky reports reception of cosmic radio signal in Wash DC
1935 - Brussel's World Expo opens
1935 - Yanks pull a 1st inning triple-play & beat Phila A's 9-8
1937 - 1st US social security payment made
1937 - US Social Security system makes its 1st benefit payment
1940 - Himmler orders establishment of Auschwitz Concentration Camp
1941 - German troops occupy Athens Greece
1942 - Belgium Jews are forced to wear stars
1942 - Tornado destroys Pryor Oklahoma killing 100, injuring 300
1943 - Lou Jansen & Jan Dieters arrested, lead illegal CPN party in Holland
1943 - Soviet Union breaks contact with Polish government exiled in London
1944 - Boston Brave Jim Tobin no-hits Bkln Dodgers, 2-0
1945 - 2nd Republic of Austria forms
1945 - Italian partisans capture Mussolini prisoner
1945 - US 5th army enters Genua
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:12:49 AM
1947 - Babe Ruth Day celebrated at Yankee Stadium & through out US
1948 - Arab legion attacks Gesher bridge on Jordan River
1950 - "Tickets, Please" opens at Coronet Theater NYC for 245 performances
1950 - South Africa passes Group Areas Act segregating races
1951 - Mohammed Mossadeq chosen premier of Persia
1952 - "4 Saints in 3 Acts" closes at Broadway Theater NYC after 15 perfs
1953 - 1st general elections in British Guyana, won by Jagans PPP
1953 - Wrestler Freddie Blassie coins term "Pencil neck geek"
1956 - Burma Premier U Nu's Volksliga voor Vrijheid loses election
1956 - Heavyweight champ, Rocky Marciano, retires undefeated from boxing
1959 - "Today" show goes abroard 1st time (Paris France)
1959 - Liu Sjau-chi elected president of China PR
1960 - 1st atomic powered electric-drive submarine launched (Tullibee)
1960 - South Korean pres Syngman Rhee resigns
1960 - Togo (formerly French Togo) declares independence from French adm
1961 - NASA launches Explorer 11 into Earth orbit to study gamma rays
1961 - NFL officially recognizes Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio
1961 - Sierra Leone declares independence from UK
1962 - Arnold Wesker's "Chips with Everything," premieres in London
1962 - US performs atmospheric nuclear test at Christmas Island
1963 - "Jopie" Pengel forms govt in Suriname
1963 - Cuban premier Fidel Castro arrives in Moscow
1964 - John Lennon's "In His Own Write" is published in US
1965 - "I'm Solomon" closes at Mark Hellinger Theater NYC after 7 perfs
1965 - RC Duncan patents "Pampers" disposable diaper
1966 - Dmitri Shostakovitch completes his 2nd cello concert
1967 - Expo '67 opens in Montreal
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:13:34 AM
1967 - US performs nuclear test at Nevada Test Site
1968 - "Education of Hyman Kaplan" closes at Alvin NYC after 28 perfs
1968 - Balt Oriole Tom Phoebus no-hits Boston, 6-0
1968 - Congress of Political Party Radicals (PPR) forms in Netherlands
1969 - Carol Mann wins LPGA Raleigh Ladies Golf Invitational
1971 - Curt Flood resigns Senators after 13 games & departs for Denmark
1972 - Apollo 16 returns to Earth
1972 - NYC Mayor John Lindsey appeals that John Lennon not be deported
1973 - KC Royal Steve Busby no-hits Detroit Tigers, 3-0
1974 - Pan Am 707 crashes into mountains of Bali, killing 107
1975 - Sandra Haynie wins LPGA Charity Golf Classic
1975 - USSR performs nuclear test at Eastern Kazakh/Semipalitinsk USSR
1976 - "So Long 174th St" opens at Harkness Theater NYC for 16 performances
1976 - Arabic Monetary Fund established in Abu Dhabi
1977 - Bloody riots in Soweto South Africa
1977 - HCC, Hobby Computer Club, forms in Netherlands
1978 - 14th Mayor's Trophy Game, Yanks beat Mets 4-3 in 11
1978 - Accident at nuclear reactor Willow Island, W Virginia, kills 51
1978 - Afgh nist n revolution (National Day), pro-Russian military coup
1979 - George Harrison releases "Love Comes to Everyone"
1980 - Barbara Barrow wins LPGA Birmingham Golf Classic
1981 - 1st female soccer official is hired by NASL
1981 - Beatle Ringo Starr marries actress Barbara Bach [Goldbach]
1982 - Nordiques 1-Isles 4-Semifinals-Isles hold 1-0 lead
1982 - Trial of John W Hinckley Jr attempted assassin of Reagan, begins
1983 - Nolan Ryan becomes strikeout king (3,509), passing Walter Johnson
1984 - Cleve Indians beat Detroit Tigers, 8-4, in 19 innings
1984 - Over 70 inches of snow falls on Red Lake Montana
1986 - "Sweet Charity" opens at Minskoff Theater NYC for 368 performances
1986 - Captain Midnight (John R MacDougall) interrupts HBO
1986 - Pat Bradley wins LPGA S&H Golf Classic
1987 - US Justice Dept bars Austrian Chancellor Kurt Waldheim from entering US, due to his aid of Nazi Germany during WW II
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:14:08 AM
1989 - Beijing students take over Tiananmen Square in China
1989 - Hurricane in Bangladesh, kills 500
1989 - Mandatory seatbelt law goes into effect in Italy
1990 - 50th annual barbershop quartet singing convention held (Mich)
1990 - Dodger Orel Hershiser undergoes career-threatening shoulder surgery
1990 - Villanova's women set a 6,000 m relay world record of 17:18:10
1991 - "Lucifer's Child" closes at Music Box Theater NYC after 28 perfs
1991 - Firestone World Bowling Tournament of Champions won by David Ozio
1992 - "Small Family Business" opens at Music Box Theater NYC for 48 perfs
1992 - NY Jets finish perfect 5-0 pre-season for 1st time
1992 - NY Mets trade David Cone to Toronto Blue Jays for Jeff Kent
1993 - Afghan Antonov AN-32 crashes at Tashqurgan, kills 76
1994 - "Inspector Calls" opens at Royale Theater NYC for 454 performances
1994 - 29.0øC in Genevad, Sweden (Swedish April high temperature record)
1994 - 7th longest NHL game: NJ Devils beat Buffalo Sabres (125 min 43 sec)
1994 - Graeme Obree bicycles world record time (52,713 km)
1994 - President Nixon buried in Nixon Library in Calif
1994 - Twins righty Scott Erickson no-hits Brewers 6-0
1995 - "Indiscretions" opens at Ethel Barrymore Theater NYC for 221 perfs
1995 - Coors Field in Colo opens - Denver Rockies beats Mets 11-9 in 14
1996 - Brunswick World Tournament of Champions won by Dave D'Entremont
1997 - "Little Foxes," opens at Vivian Beaumont NYC for 56 performances
1997 - "Stanley," closes at Circle in Sq Theater NYC
1997 - Frank Nobilo wins Greater Greensboro Chrysler Classic at Forest Oaks
1997 - Las Vegas Senior Golf Classic by TruGreen-ChemLawn
1997 - Nancy Lopez wins LPGA Chick-fil-A Charity Championship
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:14:50 AM
1410 - John Van Lannoy, Flemish governor of Holland/Zealand/West Frisia
1623 - Johann Adam Reincken, composer
1701 - Charles Emanuel I, King of Sardinia
1707 - John Burman, Dutch botanist/director botanical gardens
1724 - Ferdinand Philipp Joseph Lobkowitz, composer
1737 - Edward Gibson, England, historian (Decline & Fall of Roman Emp)
1759 - Mary Wollstonecraft Godwin, England, writer/feminist (Female Reader)
1767 - Andreas Jakob Romberg, German violinist/composer (Song of the Clock)
1791 - Samuel Finley Breece Morse, US painter/inventor (telegraph)
1802 - Abraham Louis Niedermeyer, composer
1803 - Alfred Julius Becher, composer
1812 - Friedrich von Flotow, composer
1820 - Herbert Spencer, Derby England, Victorian philosopher (Social Statics)
1822 - Ulysses S Grant, [Hiram], Ohio (R), 18th president (1869-77)
1824 - William Richard Bexfield, composer
1828 - Gerben Colmjon, Dutch Frisian linguist/publisher
1835 - John Murray Corse, Pitts, Bvt Mjr General (Union volunteers) [or 9/27]
1840 - Edward Whymper, 1st to climb Matterhorn (1865)
1861 - Georgy L'vovich Catoire, composer
1861 - Johan M Skjoldborg, Danish writer (Dynaes-Digte)
1865 - Emile Erens, Dutch Hagiographer (Pastor of Ars)
1869 - William Victor Harris, composer
1871 - Arthur Finlay Nevin, composer
1873 - Harry M O'Connor, Chicago IL, actor (Stranger than Fiction)
1875 - Andr‚ Baillon, Belgian/French author (Un homme si simple)
1875 - Freddie Fane, cricketer (Hobbs' 1st Test opening partner)
1875 - Lumsden Hare, Ireland, actor (Oregon Trail, Desert Fox, Young Bess)
1883 - Hubert Harrison, St Croix Virgin Island, writer/freedom fighter
1884 - Louis de Bree, [Louis C Davids], actor (Bluejackets)
1891 - Sergei Sergeyevich Prokofiev, composer
1892 - Louis Victor de Broglie, physicist (studied electrons)
1893 - Norman Bel Geddes, Adrian Mich, theatrical designer (Rivals, Dead End)
1894 - Nicolas Slonimsky, composer
1896 - Rogers Hornsby, 2nd baseman (St Louis Cards)
1896 - Wallace Hume Carothers, inventor (nylon)
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:15:37 AM
1902 - Kitty Kelly, NYC, actress (Ladies of the Jury, Behind Office Doors)
1903 - Frank Belknap Long, American writer (Rim of the Unknown)
1903 - Hans Walter Kosterliz, biochemist
1904 - Arthur F Burns, economist/chairman (Federal Reserve Board)
1904 - Cecil Day-Lewis, England, poet laureate/detective (Nicholas Blake)
1904 - Ragnar Skrede, Norwegian poet (Lauvfall)
1905 - Julian Stryjkowski, writer
1905 - Philip Radcliffe, composer
1906 - Mark Alexander Abrams, market researcher
1909 - Muriel C Bradbrook, English writer (That Infidel Place)
1911 - Colin Gordon, Ceylon, actor (John-Baron)
1911 - Georges Dargaud, French publisher (Asterix, Tintin)
1912 - Franz Weyergans, Belgian literary (Les Gens Heureux)
1912 - Frederick Rand Weissman, philanthropist
1912 - Renato Rascel, actor (7 Hills of Rome, Secrets of Santa Vittoria)
1914 - Albert Soboult, French historian
1916 - Jan Rychlik, composer
1918 - John Alfred Scali, journalist/correspondent (ABC)
1918 - Kirby Stone, NYC, jazz combo leader (Baubles Bangles & Beads)
1918 - Willem N "Pim" Koot, pianist of Concert building (Oh, Lady! Lady!)
1919 - Walter Ritchie, sculptor
1922 - Daphne Anderson, London, actress (Beggar's Opera, Hobson's Choice)
1922 - Jack Klugman, Phila (Oscar-Odd Couple, Quincy, Goodbye Columbus)
1927 - Connie Kay, jazz drummer
1927 - Coretta Scott King, Marion Ala, civil rights leader
1927 - John Joseph Moakley, (Rep-D-Massachusetts, 1973- )
1929 - Nina Ponomareva Romaschkova, USSR, discus thrower (Oly-gold-1952, 60)
1930 - Roelof F "Pik" Botha, South African minister of Foreign affairs
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:16:12 AM
1931 - Krzystzof Komeda, composer
1932 - Anouk Aimee, [Fran‡oise Dreyfus], Paris, actress (8«, La Dolce Vita)
1932 - Casey Kasem, Detroit Mich, radio personality (American Top 40)
1932 - Charles Adkins, US, light welterweight boxer (Olympic-gold-1952)
1932 - Chuck Knox, NFL coach (Rams, Bills, Seahawks)
1932 - Fran‡ois Bayle, composer
1932 - Maxine Brown, rocker (Browns)
1932 - Petar Ozgijan, composer
1936 - Khalid Wazir, cricketer (son of S Wazir Ali 2 Tests for Pakistan 1954)
1937 - Phil Jones, newsman (CBS)
1937 - Sandy Dennis, Nebraska, actress (Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?)
1938 - Earl Anthony, bowler (PBA money champ 1974-6, 1981-3)
1939 - Jerry Mercer, Montreal Canada, rock drummer (April Wine)
1939 - Judy Carne, Northhampton Engl, comedienne (Laugh-in, Fair Exchange)
1941 - Friedrich Goldmann, composer
1941 - Jan D Blaauw, Dutch MP (VVD)
1941 - Judith Blegen, Missoula Mont, opera singer (Papagena-Magic Flute)
1942 - Gordon Roddick, English cosmetic manufacturer (Body Shop)
1942 - Valeri Vladimirovich Polyakov, Russian cosmonaut (Soyuz TM-6, TM-18)
1943 - Eugene Polyakov, dancer
1943 - Helmut Marko, auto racer (Le Mans Grand Prix)
1944 - Cuba Gooding, US singer (Everybody Plays the Fool)
1944 - Herb Pedersen, Berkley Ca, singer (Desert Rose Band-Love Reunited)
1944 - Michael Fish, British TV weatherman
1945 - August Wilson, US, playwright (Fences, Pulitzer 1987)
1946 - John Maclean, cricketer (Australian wicket-keeper 1978-79)
1947 - Ann Peebles, Missouri, singer (I Can't Stand the Rain)
1947 - Herbie Murrell, US singer (Stylistics-You are My Everything)
1947 - Pete Ham, Swansea Wales, rock vocalist (Badfinger-Come & Get It)
1947 - Peter Gena, composer
1948 - Katie Pierson, NJ, vocals/guitarist (B-52's-Rock Lobster, Love Shack)
1949 - Doug Sheehan, actor (Joe Kelly-General Hospital)
1949 - Douglas Sheehan, Santa Monica Calif, actor (Ben-Knots Landing)
1949 - Yoshiaki Fujiwara, wrestler (NJPW/PWF/UWF)
1951 - Ace Frehley, Bronx NY, heavy metal rocker (Kiss-Beth, Frehley's Comet)
1951 - Boris Kinberg, rock percussionist (Mink Deville)
1953 - Ellen L Shulman Baker, Fayetteville NC, MD/astronaut (STS 34, 50, 71)
1955 - Cora Ann Mahalick, NJ, news anchor (WNYW-TV)
1956 - Dennie Shupryt-Knoop, Chicago Ill, beach volleyballer (Olympics-96)
1958 - Keith Denunzio, rocker
1959 - Marco Pirroni, London, rock guitarist (Adam & The Ants)
1959 - Sheena Easton, [Shirley Orr], Glasgow Scotland, singer (Sugar Walls)
1962 - Denise Baldwin, Atlanta, LPGA golfer (1991 Futures Salisbury Classic)
1962 - Patricia Plumer, Covina Calif, 1.5k/5k runner
1962 - Patricia Susan Plumer Levere, Covina, California, 3K runner
1963 - Arther van Dijk, drummer (Ivy Green)
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:17:16 AM
1965 - Courtenay Becker-Dey, Greenwich Conn, Europe yachter (Oly-bronze-1996)
1966 - Peter McIntyre, cricketer (Australian leg-spinner 1995)
1967 - Bridgette Gordon, WNBA forward (Sacramento Monarchs, Olympic-gold-88)
1967 - Willem-Alexander CGF, Dutch crown prince/son of Queen Beatrix of Neth
1968 - Adrian Cooper, NFL tight end (Minn Vikings)
1969 - Brett Steven, Bermuda, NZ tennis player (Olympics-96)
1969 - Francine "Frankie" McRae, Australian softball outfielder (Oly-br-96)
1969 - Mica Paris, rocker (So Good)
1969 - Tyrone Rodgers, CFL defensive linebacker (Winnipeg Blue Bombers)
1970 - Mikiko Hagiwara, WNBA guard (Sacramento Monarchs)
1970 - Tim Hanshaw, NFL guard (SF 49ers)
1971 - Craig Keith, NFL tight end (Jacksonville Jaguars)
1971 - Hayley Carr, Salzburg Austria, actress (Courtney-As the World Turns)
1971 - James Burton, cornerback (Chicago Bears)
1971 - Ricky Sutton, WLAF defensive end (Barcelona Dragons)
1972 - Alison McKnight, Bakersfield Calif, 100m hurdler/heptathlete
1972 - David Lascher, NYC, actor (Josh-Clueless, Kidz in the Wood)
1972 - Ethan Brooks, NFL/WAFL tackle (Atlanta Falcons, Rhein Fire)
1972 - Silvia Farina, Milan Italy, tennis star (1995 Maria Lankowitz doubles)
1972 - Tim Ruddy, NFL center (Miami Dolphins)
1972 - Tommy Thompson, NFL punter (SF 49ers)
1973 - Andr‚ Govan, Culver City Calif, actor (Monster Squad)
1973 - S‚bastien Lareau, Montreal Quebec, tennis player (Olympics-96)
1974 - Carlos Fortes, soccer player (Sparta)
1974 - Pete Chryplewicz, tight end (Detroit Lions)
1975 - Andr‚ Gower, actor (Baby Makes 5, Fathers & Sons, Mr President)
1975 - Kenny Harris, safety (Arizona Cardinals)
1975 - Michael Booker, cornerback (Atlanta Falcons)
1992 - James Duke Mason, son of singer Belinda Carlisle & Morgan Mason
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:18:04 AM
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A group of previous kindergartners were trying very hard to become accustomed to the first grade. The biggest hurdle they faced was that the teacher insisted on NO baby talk!
"You need to use 'Big People' words," she was always reminding them. She asked Chris what he had done over the weekend.
"I went to visit my Nana."
"No, you went to visit your GRANDMOTHER. Use 'Big People' words!" She then asked Mitchell what he had done.
"I took a ride on a choo-choo." She said "No, you took a ride on a TRAIN. You must remember to use 'Big People' words." She then asked little Alec what he had done.
"I read a book," he replied.
"That's WONDERFUL!" the teacher said. "What book did you read?"
Alec thought real hard about it, then puffed out his chest with great pride, and said, "Winnie the SH*T."
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 02:37:31 AM
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Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 05:51:23 AM
Looks like the Daily Deals SuckIn other news, the Pope is Catholic. Morning, gents.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 05:59:17 AM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:04:27 AM
TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:04:43 AM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:05:21 AM
Good one :)Looks like the Daily Deals SuckIn other news, the Pope is Catholic. Morning, gents.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 06:09:21 AM
That sucks. Guess I'll have to mail you the 'Hillary 2016' pin I was gonna give you. ;)TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 06:14:34 AM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:15:25 AM
LMAO and I will not be able to place the Ted Cruz bumper sticker on your car, danggit! Always next year though.That sucks. Guess I'll have to mail you the 'Hillary 2016' pin I was gonna give you. ;)TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:18:28 AM
So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I will be there vicariously through Travellin Dave, my ticket is on the way to him. Tony will be there, hell he is cooking at your flop house last I heard.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 06:24:28 AM
LALTSLMAO and I will not be able to place the Ted Cruz bumper sticker on your car, danggit! Always next year though.That sucks. Guess I'll have to mail you the 'Hillary 2016' pin I was gonna give you. ;)TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 06:25:08 AM
Yeah, that's my 6 am brain working. Of course Tony and Charlie will be there. Can't have a cookout without the main chef!So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I will be there vicariously through Travellin Dave, my ticket is on the way to him. Tony will be there, hell he is cooking at your flop house last I heard.
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 06:26:34 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 06:26:55 AM
Plus, rumor has it that Barry will be there, though, he's kinda disappeared off the planet.Yeah, that's my 6 am brain working. Of course Tony and Charlie will be there. Can't have a cookout without the main chef!So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I will be there vicariously through Travellin Dave, my ticket is on the way to him. Tony will be there, hell he is cooking at your flop house last I heard.
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 06:27:24 AM
Morning LSU. Moving a little slow this morning, got to stay home for the pest control man to come do the termite treatment.Breaking your heart to have to stay home, of course your wallet will also be a little lighter after today.
Post by: LSUFAN on April 27, 2015, 06:28:14 AM
That does indeed suck.TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:28:29 AM
Good morning Native and Dave.You must be busy early this morning.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:29:41 AM
Yep, maybe next year but I got to get all this crap around here taken care of, work and also got a broken tooth to get fixed.That does indeed suck.TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:31:41 AM
I would simply say who gives a shit whether he does or not as he chose to disappear for a year without contact. I sent PM's to several people who fell out just to say hello and check on their well being and did not get a response from any of them so I could care less about them.Plus, rumor has it that Barry will be there, though, he's kinda disappeared off the planet.Yeah, that's my 6 am brain working. Of course Tony and Charlie will be there. Can't have a cookout without the main chef!So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I will be there vicariously through Travellin Dave, my ticket is on the way to him. Tony will be there, hell he is cooking at your flop house last I heard.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 06:34:53 AM
Hopefully just a matter of life getting in the way. Gonna give him the benefit of the doubt, cause he's a great guy. If he was an asshole, I'd agree with you.I would simply say who gives a shit whether he does or not as he chose to disappear for a year without contact.Plus, rumor has it that Barry will be there, though, he's kinda disappeared off the planet.Yeah, that's my 6 am brain working. Of course Tony and Charlie will be there. Can't have a cookout without the main chef!So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I will be there vicariously through Travellin Dave, my ticket is on the way to him. Tony will be there, hell he is cooking at your flop house last I heard.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:42:34 AM
Yeah, $1000 lighter, just for the treatment probably that much more to repair the damage. But on the brighter side only surface damage and no structural damage.Morning LSU. Moving a little slow this morning, got to stay home for the pest control man to come do the termite treatment.Breaking your heart to have to stay home, of course your wallet will also be a little lighter after today.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 06:55:20 AM
WHAT!?TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 06:58:18 AM
Sounds to me like it can wait until after CFest then?Yeah, $1000 lighter, just for the treatment probably that much more to repair the damage. But on the brighter side only surface damage and no structural damage.Morning LSU. Moving a little slow this morning, got to stay home for the pest control man to come do the termite treatment.Breaking your heart to have to stay home, of course your wallet will also be a little lighter after today.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:01:09 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 07:02:36 AM
So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I'm hurt.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 07:06:01 AM
Yeah, that's my bad. Just for that, I won't have any cheese on my burger.So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I'm hurt.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 07:06:15 AM
Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:06:28 AM
Is it your vagina again?So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I'm hurt.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 07:06:29 AM
Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyThe good news is that the weather guys don't know what the fuck they're talking about and are pulling all this information out of their asses.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 07:07:04 AM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:07:19 AM
Termite Treatment can't wait, workaference can't wait, roof can't waitt and broken tooth can't wait for a 2000 mile just for fun trip. Just hard to go off and have fun with so much crap to deal with.Sounds to me like it can wait until after CFest then?Yeah, $1000 lighter, just for the treatment probably that much more to repair the damage. But on the brighter side only surface damage and no structural damage.Morning LSU. Moving a little slow this morning, got to stay home for the pest control man to come do the termite treatment.Breaking your heart to have to stay home, of course your wallet will also be a little lighter after today.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:07:40 AM
If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:08:14 AM
Did you fall down the stairs?So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I'm hurt.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:08:40 AM
I hear ya brother, just bustin'. Just too bad is allTermite Treatment can't wait, workaference can't wait, roof can't waitt and broken tooth can't wait for a 2000 mile just for fun trip. Just hard to go off and have fun with so much crap to deal with.Sounds to me like it can wait until after CFest then?Yeah, $1000 lighter, just for the treatment probably that much more to repair the damage. But on the brighter side only surface damage and no structural damage.Morning LSU. Moving a little slow this morning, got to stay home for the pest control man to come do the termite treatment.Breaking your heart to have to stay home, of course your wallet will also be a little lighter after today.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 07:08:54 AM
Oh no, it's not made without cheese. This isn't Burger King, motherfucker.Yeah, that's my bad. Just for that, I won't have any cheese on my burger.So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I'm hurt.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:08:55 AM
Absolutely correct !Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyThe good news is that the weather guys don't know what the fuck they're talking about and are pulling all this information out of their asses.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 07:09:55 AM
Circle jerk?If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:09:57 AM
Yeah Motherfucker you heard him. :)Oh no, it's not made without cheese. This isn't Burger King, motherfucker.Yeah, that's my bad. Just for that, I won't have any cheese on my burger.So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I'm hurt.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:10:22 AM
Agreed and there's still time, it's just that it was looking good until yesterday. I blame the Ohio Valley for this shitWell it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyThe good news is that the weather guys don't know what the fuck they're talking about and are pulling all this information out of their asses.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:10:28 AM
Flying CG in to lead the event?Circle jerk?If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:10:54 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 07:11:08 AM
I think we're going to Hamburg store, rain or shine.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:12:59 AM
Hmmm, the one thing Tony would arrive on time forCircle jerk?If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:14:26 AM
I'm going to do that if it rains, was the original plan before golf got planned but I'd still rather golf and hoping for a forecast improvementI think we're going to Hamburg store, rain or shine.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:14:51 AM
See you at 6:00PM!I think we're going to Hamburg store, rain or shine.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 07:16:58 AM
Don't know, hadn't thought about it. Think Nate is still looking forward to his beauty sleep, but I'd hate to stay in the house until the event. Hamburg store does sound like an idea, never been there myself. Only 1 hr 16 minutes from the house.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 07:19:31 AM
Or not. LolSee you at 6:00PM!I think we're going to Hamburg store, rain or shine.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:22:43 AM
I think it's a great contingency plan, we can meet there and have fun at the Tat event plus they have a couple barsDon't know, hadn't thought about it. Think Nate is still looking forward to his beauty sleep, but I'd hate to stay in the house until the event. Hamburg store does sound like an idea, never been there myself. Only 1 hr 16 minutes from the house.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 07:29:18 AM
Sounds good. Gotta get you a bloody mary one way or another.I think it's a great contingency plan, we can meet there and have fun at the Tat event plus they have a couple barsDon't know, hadn't thought about it. Think Nate is still looking forward to his beauty sleep, but I'd hate to stay in the house until the event. Hamburg store does sound like an idea, never been there myself. Only 1 hr 16 minutes from the house.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 07:31:53 AM
Give or take a couple of hours. ;)See you at 6:00PM!I think we're going to Hamburg store, rain or shine.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 07:33:36 AM
You'll see me. I can't be definite about the time, but I will be there... Unless the good Lord has mercy and takes me before then.Or not. LolSee you at 6:00PM!I think we're going to Hamburg store, rain or shine.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:34:38 AM
Not sure what Andy and I will do if it rains and we leave the house at 5:30AM, Hamburg opens at 9:00, that's a long breakfastSounds good. Gotta get you a bloody mary one way or another.I think it's a great contingency plan, we can meet there and have fun at the Tat event plus they have a couple barsDon't know, hadn't thought about it. Think Nate is still looking forward to his beauty sleep, but I'd hate to stay in the house until the event. Hamburg store does sound like an idea, never been there myself. Only 1 hr 16 minutes from the house.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:35:07 AM
CNSYou'll see me. I can't be definite about the time, but I will be there... Unless the good Lord has mercy and takes me before then.Or not. LolSee you at 6:00PM!I think we're going to Hamburg store, rain or shine.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:37:34 AM
ALEC BRADLEY AND ROCKY PATEL - A DECONSTRUCTION AFFAIR
FRIDAY, MAY 1, 2015 9:30PM-11:30PM
CIGARfest DINING TENT, SPLIT ROCK RESORT, PA
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:39:14 AM
I can't think of much else that would be less appealing:
ALEC BRADLEY AND ROCKY PATEL - A DECONSTRUCTION AFFAIR
FRIDAY, MAY 1, 2015 9:30PM-11:30PM
CIGARfest DINING TENT, SPLIT ROCK RESORT, PA
Yeah, that's just what I want to do on Friday night...watch you turds dissect your turds
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:51:53 AM
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:52:48 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 07:53:13 AM
Good point, forgot you're coming straight in.Not sure what Andy and I will do if it rains and we leave the house at 5:30AM, Hamburg opens at 9:00, that's a long breakfastSounds good. Gotta get you a bloody mary one way or another.I think it's a great contingency plan, we can meet there and have fun at the Tat event plus they have a couple barsDon't know, hadn't thought about it. Think Nate is still looking forward to his beauty sleep, but I'd hate to stay in the house until the event. Hamburg store does sound like an idea, never been there myself. Only 1 hr 16 minutes from the house.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 07:54:33 AM
It's about the same drive from me as it is from Split Rock, that event will be packed if it's rainyGood point, forgot you're coming straight in.Not sure what Andy and I will do if it rains and we leave the house at 5:30AM, Hamburg opens at 9:00, that's a long breakfastSounds good. Gotta get you a bloody mary one way or another.I think it's a great contingency plan, we can meet there and have fun at the Tat event plus they have a couple barsDon't know, hadn't thought about it. Think Nate is still looking forward to his beauty sleep, but I'd hate to stay in the house until the event. Hamburg store does sound like an idea, never been there myself. Only 1 hr 16 minutes from the house.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 08:02:12 AM
No doubt, but it's a big place, hopefully it wouldn't be too bad, especially that early in the morning. But I'm open to any other suggestions.It's about the same drive from me as it is from Split Rock, that event will be packed if it's rainyGood point, forgot you're coming straight in.Not sure what Andy and I will do if it rains and we leave the house at 5:30AM, Hamburg opens at 9:00, that's a long breakfastSounds good. Gotta get you a bloody mary one way or another.I think it's a great contingency plan, we can meet there and have fun at the Tat event plus they have a couple barsDon't know, hadn't thought about it. Think Nate is still looking forward to his beauty sleep, but I'd hate to stay in the house until the event. Hamburg store does sound like an idea, never been there myself. Only 1 hr 16 minutes from the house.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 08:03:48 AM
I can't think of much else that would be less appealing:
ALEC BRADLEY AND ROCKY PATEL - A DECONSTRUCTION AFFAIR
FRIDAY, MAY 1, 2015 9:30PM-11:30PM
CIGARfest DINING TENT, SPLIT ROCK RESORT, PA
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 08:06:49 AM
Or we could just smoke on our deck under some golf umbrellas. Haha.No doubt, but it's a big place, hopefully it wouldn't be too bad, especially that early in the morning. But I'm open to any other suggestions.It's about the same drive from me as it is from Split Rock, that event will be packed if it's rainyGood point, forgot you're coming straight in.Not sure what Andy and I will do if it rains and we leave the house at 5:30AM, Hamburg opens at 9:00, that's a long breakfastSounds good. Gotta get you a bloody mary one way or another.I think it's a great contingency plan, we can meet there and have fun at the Tat event plus they have a couple barsDon't know, hadn't thought about it. Think Nate is still looking forward to his beauty sleep, but I'd hate to stay in the house until the event. Hamburg store does sound like an idea, never been there myself. Only 1 hr 16 minutes from the house.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 08:09:03 AM
Hopefully by Thursday there's some good beer available for a growler fillAlready picked some up this weekend. Bottles, obviously.
Post by: FloridaDean on April 27, 2015, 08:11:55 AM
I got an email from Barry the other day, he will be at CFest, been busy dealing with a lot of life stuff.Plus, rumor has it that Barry will be there, though, he's kinda disappeared off the planet.Yeah, that's my 6 am brain working. Of course Tony and Charlie will be there. Can't have a cookout without the main chef!So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I will be there vicariously through Travellin Dave, my ticket is on the way to him. Tony will be there, hell he is cooking at your flop house last I heard.
Post by: FloridaDean on April 27, 2015, 08:17:10 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 08:23:10 AM
It wouldn't be the same without the Mayor holding court. Morning, Dean.I got an email from Barry the other day, he will be at CFest, been busy dealing with a lot of life stuff.Plus, rumor has it that Barry will be there, though, he's kinda disappeared off the planet.Yeah, that's my 6 am brain working. Of course Tony and Charlie will be there. Can't have a cookout without the main chef!So TXDave is out and cb is out. Anyone besides myself, Scott, Mark and WhoTheFuckKnowsWhereDave gonna be there?I will be there vicariously through Travellin Dave, my ticket is on the way to him. Tony will be there, hell he is cooking at your flop house last I heard.
Post by: Threebean on April 27, 2015, 08:24:11 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 08:27:35 AM
Good morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 08:30:20 AM
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 08:32:25 AM
Haha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 08:38:30 AM
And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 08:53:13 AM
Post by: Threebean on April 27, 2015, 08:54:09 AM
Will have to go to plan B. If at some point I slap you on the back a few times, it's just me being friendly, that's all.And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: Threebean on April 27, 2015, 08:55:02 AM
Preemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Pound down a couple of beers, problem solved.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 08:55:21 AM
Preemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Think of baseball, or something like that. Morning, fellow commie.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 08:55:35 AM
Preemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Morning CG, don't try "hard" let it relax first then should flow.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
I already had to listen to Ted Nugent a couple of years ago at a CF bonfire, nothing you say or do to me will be any worse. Haha.Will have to go to plan B. If at some point I slap you on the back a few times, it's just me being friendly, that's all.And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 08:57:35 AM
Bingo! Morning MarkPreemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Pound down a couple of beers, problem solved.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 08:58:11 AM
Good morning sir. I think it's the urge to shit that's throwing me offPreemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Think of baseball, or something like that. Morning, fellow commie.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 08:58:27 AM
Howdy Tex!Preemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Morning CG, don't try "hard" let it relax first then should flow.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 09:00:39 AM
To-may-do, to-mah-do. This new company have smoking restrictions?Good morning sir. I think it's the urge to shit that's throwing me offPreemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Think of baseball, or something like that. Morning, fellow commie.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 09:03:41 AM
True storyI already had to listen to Ted Nugent a couple of years ago at a CF bonfire, nothing you say or do to me will be any worse. Haha.Will have to go to plan B. If at some point I slap you on the back a few times, it's just me being friendly, that's all.And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: Threebean on April 27, 2015, 09:06:12 AM
Then you'll be exceeding expectations. Good start!Good morning sir. I think it's the urge to shit that's throwing me offPreemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Think of baseball, or something like that. Morning, fellow commie.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 09:17:41 AM
They better notTo-may-do, to-mah-do. This new company have smoking restrictions?Good morning sir. I think it's the urge to shit that's throwing me offPreemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Think of baseball, or something like that. Morning, fellow commie.
I don't believe so, treading lightly right now tho on the smoking
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 09:18:59 AM
Why not throw in a bonus stool sample?Good morning sir. I think it's the urge to shit that's throwing me offPreemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Think of baseball, or something like that. Morning, fellow commie.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 09:19:39 AM
Exactly what I was thinking. Good morning, Mark.Then you'll be exceeding expectations. Good start!Good morning sir. I think it's the urge to shit that's throwing me offPreemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Think of baseball, or something like that. Morning, fellow commie.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 09:20:26 AM
No blood test, so that's a major win. Just urineWhy not throw in a bonus stool sample?Good morning sir. I think it's the urge to shit that's throwing me offPreemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Think of baseball, or something like that. Morning, fellow commie.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 09:21:44 AM
Post by: Threebean on April 27, 2015, 09:26:05 AM
Morning Chip, Dave, Dave, Bean, Dogfish and Yellowstar. You can tell its a Monday, WiFi out at the hotel...sheesh.Morning TimeZoneDave. Until someone pulls the fire alarm at 2 am, you're still ahead.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 09:27:12 AM
Just give it to Bean to deliver.That sucks. Guess I'll have to mail you the 'Hillary 2016' pin I was gonna give you. ;)TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 09:30:24 AM
I'll slip it into his swag bag.Just give it to Bean to deliver.That sucks. Guess I'll have to mail you the 'Hillary 2016' pin I was gonna give you. ;)TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 09:33:13 AM
Bloody Marys in the thermos.Not sure what Andy and I will do if it rains and we leave the house at 5:30AM, Hamburg opens at 9:00, that's a long breakfastSounds good. Gotta get you a bloody mary one way or another.I think it's a great contingency plan, we can meet there and have fun at the Tat event plus they have a couple barsDon't know, hadn't thought about it. Think Nate is still looking forward to his beauty sleep, but I'd hate to stay in the house until the event. Hamburg store does sound like an idea, never been there myself. Only 1 hr 16 minutes from the house.If it rains, what are you guys doing on Friday?Well it must be Bad News for Cfest Monday! Rain in the forecast for Friday now, 70% chance. Rain likely in the morning, chance of showers in the afternoon. Golf in jeopardyI know, right? Fuggin' shit.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
Ooof, sounds painfulI'll slip it into his swag bag.Just give it to Bean to deliver.That sucks. Guess I'll have to mail you the 'Hillary 2016' pin I was gonna give you. ;)TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 09:37:47 AM
He'll barely feel it, just ask my wife.Ooof, sounds painfulI'll slip it into his swag bag.Just give it to Bean to deliver.That sucks. Guess I'll have to mail you the 'Hillary 2016' pin I was gonna give you. ;)TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 09:43:32 AM
Well there is our first TWSS for the day.He'll barely feel it, just ask my wife.Ooof, sounds painfulI'll slip it into his swag bag.Just give it to Bean to deliver.That sucks. Guess I'll have to mail you the 'Hillary 2016' pin I was gonna give you. ;)TXDave - when are you gonna get to CF?Next Year maybe. :(. Unfortunately had to make a last miniute cancellation last week due to home disasters and last minute Workaference travel for Wed and Thursday.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 09:47:44 AM
wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 09:49:34 AM
His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: Threebean on April 27, 2015, 09:50:10 AM
He enjoys waking up the neighbors with that squeak-squeak-squeak as he's driving off to work.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 09:52:10 AM
Hell, for all I know he HAS fixed it, just wanted to drive his mom's car because her car gets 40+ mpg, and his gets maybe 15 going downhill with a stiff breeze behind it.His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 09:52:13 AM
They usually do oral swabs for tobacco these days.No blood test, so that's a major win. Just urineWhy not throw in a bonus stool sample?Good morning sir. I think it's the urge to shit that's throwing me offPreemployment health screen...trying to find the urge to pee!Think of baseball, or something like that. Morning, fellow commie.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 09:54:30 AM
You're coming in a Prius? That will look especially good with a Cruz bumper sticker.Hell, for all I know he HAS fixed it, just wanted to drive his mom's car because her car gets 40+ mpg, and his gets maybe 15 going downhill with a stiff breeze behind it.His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 10:01:16 AM
Did you ever hear a Prius idle? It sounds like this: homohomohomohomoYou're coming in a Prius? That will look especially good with a Cruz bumper sticker.Hell, for all I know he HAS fixed it, just wanted to drive his mom's car because her car gets 40+ mpg, and his gets maybe 15 going downhill with a stiff breeze behind it.His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:11:06 AM
Let me see, fan belt so I have dependable transportation or CF in my mothers car? Nate must be a Democrat :)His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:11:33 AM
LMFAODid you ever hear a Prius idle? It sounds like this: homohomohomohomoYou're coming in a Prius? That will look especially good with a Cruz bumper sticker.Hell, for all I know he HAS fixed it, just wanted to drive his mom's car because her car gets 40+ mpg, and his gets maybe 15 going downhill with a stiff breeze behind it.His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:13:19 AM
Need several for that thingYou're coming in a Prius? That will look especially good with a Cruz bumper sticker.Hell, for all I know he HAS fixed it, just wanted to drive his mom's car because her car gets 40+ mpg, and his gets maybe 15 going downhill with a stiff breeze behind it.His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:13:36 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 10:13:50 AM
LALTS. I think it's some sort of Kia sedan, not sure which one.Did you ever hear a Prius idle? It sounds like this: homohomohomohomoYou're coming in a Prius? That will look especially good with a Cruz bumper sticker.Hell, for all I know he HAS fixed it, just wanted to drive his mom's car because her car gets 40+ mpg, and his gets maybe 15 going downhill with a stiff breeze behind it.His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 10:13:54 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 10:14:58 AM
At least he's not backing out due to bugs and work. ;)Let me see, fan belt so I have dependable transportation or CF in my mothers car? Nate must be a Democrat :)His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 10:17:39 AM
Morning CA DaveYou on tap for more hail this week? Better put off those repairs. Maybe put on a metal roof, that would sound great!
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 10:20:31 AM
Morning, muchachos. Smoked an Asylum Toro on Friday, a Nica Libre and a La Bomba on Saturday morning while shooting, a forgettable Dominican Cohiba on Saturday night, and an unlabeled robusto yesterday that was also rather pointless. The latter two were obviously gifts.Morning Raz. At least you had some known commodities in those choices. Never liked those Cohibas.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:21:26 AM
So he is a good guy that makes bad decisions. I am watching them drill holes in my patio foundation.At least he's not backing out due to bugs and work. ;)Let me see, fan belt so I have dependable transportation or CF in my mothers car? Nate must be a Democrat :)His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:22:15 AM
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 10:24:24 AM
Yeah, but my humidor was ten miles away and to turn 'em down would have been unfriendly-like. Still, beat hell out of a sharp stick to the eye. I just drank extra Irish whiskey...Morning, muchachos. Smoked an Asylum Toro on Friday, a Nica Libre and a La Bomba on Saturday morning while shooting, a forgettable Dominican Cohiba on Saturday night, and an unlabeled robusto yesterday that was also rather pointless. The latter two were obviously gifts.Morning Raz. At least you had some known commodities in those choices. Never liked those Cohibas.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:25:33 AM
High enough quality metal roof to avoid hail damage is about double the cost of asphalt shingles and worth considering if we planned to stay here long term.Morning CA DaveYou on tap for more hail this week? Better put off those repairs. Maybe put on a metal roof, that would sound great!
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 10:25:47 AM
Morning RazHowdy, Tex. Maybe we should call you "Bugs" today?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 10:27:44 AM
I think the issue is on his list of things that need to be done. But since he's already paid for the ticket and part of the house, little sense backing out now. Might as well enjoy the trip, and save some gas to boot. We're democrats after all, we just want to make love to Mother Earth. ;)So he is a good guy that makes bad decisions. I am watching them drill holes in my patio foundation.At least he's not backing out due to bugs and work. ;)Let me see, fan belt so I have dependable transportation or CF in my mothers car? Nate must be a Democrat :)His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 10:33:28 AM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:36:08 AM
Might be appropriateMorning RazHowdy, Tex. Maybe we should call you "Bugs" today?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 10:36:27 AM
So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:38:14 AM
So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Except the City of Austin is not part of Texas.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:39:18 AM
Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 10:40:12 AM
Actually Ohio is one of those swing states. We don't judge here.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:43:36 AM
We are the judge, jury and executioner's hereActually Ohio is one of those swing states. We don't judge here.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 10:44:54 AM
Yeah, we can go either way, but have chosen right the last couple of times. Or should I say, correct. 8)Actually Ohio is one of those swing states. We don't judge here.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 10:45:12 AM
You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 10:49:25 AM
I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:53:06 AM
He is not one of us and we do not want or need him. He is all yours.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 10:54:10 AM
Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 10:54:12 AM
CG's a commie now he will come over for thatI'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 10:54:27 AM
Oh Snap!!At least he's not backing out due to bugs and work. ;)Let me see, fan belt so I have dependable transportation or CF in my mothers car? Nate must be a Democrat :)His roommate moved out on him a few months ago, so he's been swinging the rent by himself since then, no extra money to do it.wouldn't it just make sense for him to fix the fan belt? Just sayin'And he's not even driving his car, he's taking his mom's, since his has a fan belt issue, and he doesn't trust it on the long journey. Big surprise for momma when we get back. LolHaha, perfectGood morning Dean, Tony, Dave(s), biebs, Chip. Sorry to hear you did have to bail, TxDave. I don't have a Ted Cruz sticker but do believe I can scrounge up a "If you ain't Texan, you ain't shit" sticker for LTG's car.Works for me, Nate's driving. Morning, Mark.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 10:54:44 AM
Maybe we can talk Barry into taking him back with him.He is not one of us and we do not want or need him. He is all yours.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 10:56:22 AM
What are you bringing to the bbq besides a hearty appetite?I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 10:59:23 AM
That reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 11:01:10 AM
Packed it with the lentils and hummus.That reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 11:02:31 AM
I tried skirt steak the one year and it was expensive and didn't go over as well as burgers. So I'm bringing burgers and dogs... not dawgs. I think Charlie was making potato salad and probably some other stuff.What are you bringing to the bbq besides a hearty appetite?I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 11:03:30 AM
Knew I could count on ya.Packed it with the lentils and hummus.That reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: Threebean on April 27, 2015, 11:04:53 AM
Hmmm, had to look that up. Sounds delicious, and 48% of daily fiber per serving. :oThat reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 11:06:10 AM
It's real commie food. You'll love it once we're done converting you.Hmmm, had to look that up. Sounds delicious, and 48% of daily fiber per serving. :oThat reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 11:16:34 AM
Sounds like the beginnings of a beautiful thing. There's a convenience store and a CVS just down the road, we can supplement anything we may be lacking there.I tried skirt steak the one year and it was expensive and didn't go over as well as burgers. So I'm bringing burgers and dogs... not dawgs. I think Charlie was making potato salad and probably some other stuff.What are you bringing to the bbq besides a hearty appetite?I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 11:18:40 AM
And real men don't eat it. Popular with the metro males that ride their bikes to work in downtown Austin.Hmmm, had to look that up. Sounds delicious, and 48% of daily fiber per serving. :oThat reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 11:26:13 AM
Your people?And real men don't eat it. Popular with the metro males that ride their bikes to work in downtown Austin.Hmmm, had to look that up. Sounds delicious, and 48% of daily fiber per serving. :oThat reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 11:26:56 AM
More like Golf's peopleYour people?And real men don't eat it. Popular with the metro males that ride their bikes to work in downtown Austin.Hmmm, had to look that up. Sounds delicious, and 48% of daily fiber per serving. :oThat reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 11:28:38 AM
It's all of our people... Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya!More like Golf's peopleYour people?And real men don't eat it. Popular with the metro males that ride their bikes to work in downtown Austin.Hmmm, had to look that up. Sounds delicious, and 48% of daily fiber per serving. :oThat reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 11:29:48 AM
So much for appetite.Packed it with the lentils and hummus.That reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 11:30:23 AM
Not hardlyIt's all of our people... Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya!More like Golf's peopleYour people?And real men don't eat it. Popular with the metro males that ride their bikes to work in downtown Austin.Hmmm, had to look that up. Sounds delicious, and 48% of daily fiber per serving. :oThat reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 11:37:58 AM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 11:40:27 AM
Morning, all. What's CFestivus? :PMorning BS
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 11:41:02 AM
Morning, all. What's CFestivus? :PWe're doing the airing of the grievances now.
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 11:41:34 AM
http://cigarplace.biz/cigars/clearance-63.html
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 11:44:47 AM
Morning, all. What's CFestivus? :PMorning BS
Morning, Bugs... wait, that kinda sounds contagious.
Post by: sfish on April 27, 2015, 11:46:16 AM
Oh so there are no seats on the bikes?More like Golf's peopleYour people?And real men don't eat it. Popular with the metro males that ride their bikes to work in downtown Austin.Hmmm, had to look that up. Sounds delicious, and 48% of daily fiber per serving. :oThat reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 11:47:13 AM
Morning, all. What's CFestivus? :PWe're doing the airing of the grievances now.
I shall not ask about the pole then. Improvisation is sometimes the best solution. ;)
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 11:52:32 AM
Bazinga.Oh so there are no seats on the bikes?More like Golf's peopleYour people?And real men don't eat it. Popular with the metro males that ride their bikes to work in downtown Austin.Hmmm, had to look that up. Sounds delicious, and 48% of daily fiber per serving. :oThat reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 11:54:42 AM
Yeah I can put some termites in an envelope and mail them to youMorning, all. What's CFestivus? :PMorning BS
Morning, Bugs... wait, that kinda sounds contagious.
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 11:56:23 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 11:59:17 AM
Hey, Jake. You hit that weekend spotlight yet? The new Bueso's are here! The new Bueso's are here!No, I bought a 10er from the sis 2 weeks ago when it was THEIR special. Lol
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 12:00:34 PM
Yeah I can put some termites in an envelope and mail them to youMorning, all. What's CFestivus? :PMorning BS
Morning, Bugs... wait, that kinda sounds contagious.
Thanks, but the carpenter bees are doing just fine this year. My backhand is really shaping up.
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 12:06:45 PM
Hey, Jake. You hit that weekend spotlight yet? The new Bueso's are here! The new Bueso's are here!No, I bought a 10er from the sis 2 weeks ago when it was THEIR special. Lol
You've probably already tried it then... musta missed the review. I'm sure you liked it though. A little more oomph than the 'project'?
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 12:09:52 PM
Oh, so we should put you in with Yellowstar?Actually Ohio is one of those swing states. We don't judge here.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 12:10:58 PM
Wouldn't they eat the envelope?Yeah I can put some termites in an envelope and mail them to youMorning, all. What's CFestivus? :PMorning BS
Morning, Bugs... wait, that kinda sounds contagious.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 12:14:17 PM
I have to bring some pork roll to counteract that fru-fru shit.What are you bringing to the bbq besides a hearty appetite?I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 12:19:08 PM
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 12:21:50 PM
Back in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 12:22:04 PM
Hummus doesn't look much different coming or going...So much for appetite.Packed it with the lentils and hummus.That reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 12:24:21 PM
Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 12:24:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncQsBzI-JHcOh so there are no seats on the bikes?More like Golf's peopleYour people?And real men don't eat it. Popular with the metro males that ride their bikes to work in downtown Austin.Hmmm, had to look that up. Sounds delicious, and 48% of daily fiber per serving. :oThat reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
(was trying to find one that segue's into Fat Bottom Girls....oh well, good enough for the banter.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 12:27:25 PM
I have, this was the review I posted last week - Pretty good so far. Strong barnyard smell prior to light. First half inch had a strong campfire smell, which I didn't expect. Kinda like the KFC. Back to barnyard after that. Solid burn, perfect draw. Getting stronger past the halfway point. In short, me likey.Hey, Jake. You hit that weekend spotlight yet? The new Bueso's are here! The new Bueso's are here!No, I bought a 10er from the sis 2 weeks ago when it was THEIR special. Lol
You've probably already tried it then... musta missed the review. I'm sure you liked it though. A little more oomph than the 'project'?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 12:27:57 PM
Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 12:28:31 PM
Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
So, that and a pearl necklace... sounds like a thoughtful birthday gift.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 12:30:07 PM
Step 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 12:30:33 PM
Right? Glad Dad was able to help me pick it out!Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
So, that and a pearl necklace... sounds like a thoughtful birthday gift.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 12:33:00 PM
LALTSStep 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 12:33:31 PM
Step 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
HAha! This one and On a Boat are two of my favorites.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 12:40:20 PM
Have you seen 'The Golden Rule'? Lady Gaga does it with JT and AS, it's about how dudes 'shouldn't touch' during a 3some...that's my favorite oneStep 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
HAha! This one and On a Boat are two of my favorites.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 12:50:05 PM
Gonna have to look that one up later. Jizzed in my pants is probably my second fave, behind dick in a box.Have you seen 'The Golden Rule'? Lady Gaga does it with JT and AS, it's about how dudes 'shouldn't touch' during a 3some...that's my favorite oneStep 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
HAha! This one and On a Boat are two of my favorites.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 12:51:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7gwX7rjOw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7gwX7rjOw)Gonna have to look that one up later. Jizzed in my pants is probably my second fave, behind dick in a box.Have you seen 'The Golden Rule'? Lady Gaga does it with JT and AS, it's about how dudes 'shouldn't touch' during a 3some...that's my favorite oneStep 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
HAha! This one and On a Boat are two of my favorites.
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 12:53:14 PM
Have you seen 'The Golden Rule'? Lady Gaga does it with JT and AS, it's about how dudes 'shouldn't touch' during a 3some...that's my favorite oneStep 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
HAha! This one and On a Boat are two of my favorites.
Yes. Funny sh!t... and since we're linking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 01:08:12 PM
I get those too but haven't seen any yet. They sure love my kids' playset.Yeah I can put some termites in an envelope and mail them to youMorning, all. What's CFestivus? :PMorning BS
Morning, Bugs... wait, that kinda sounds contagious.
Thanks, but the carpenter bees are doing just fine this year. My backhand is really shaping up.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
That came out my Sr Year of college, played that song so many damn times! ;DHave you seen 'The Golden Rule'? Lady Gaga does it with JT and AS, it's about how dudes 'shouldn't touch' during a 3some...that's my favorite oneStep 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
HAha! This one and On a Boat are two of my favorites.
Yes. Funny sh!t... and since we're linking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 01:11:18 PM
+1Gonna have to look that one up later. Jizzed in my pants is probably my second fave, behind dick in a box.Have you seen 'The Golden Rule'? Lady Gaga does it with JT and AS, it's about how dudes 'shouldn't touch' during a 3some...that's my favorite oneStep 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
HAha! This one and On a Boat are two of my favorites.
Post by: flip from jersey on April 27, 2015, 01:21:51 PM
Back in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.you making her a cigar rest too? or custom fitted shoe trees?
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 01:27:15 PM
Dildo rest?Back in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.you making her a cigar rest too? or custom fitted shoe trees?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 01:27:23 PM
Just watched it. Amazing.Have you seen 'The Golden Rule'? Lady Gaga does it with JT and AS, it's about how dudes 'shouldn't touch' during a 3some...that's my favorite oneStep 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
HAha! This one and On a Boat are two of my favorites.
Post by: flip from jersey on April 27, 2015, 01:38:18 PM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 01:41:42 PM
LMAOHummus doesn't look much different coming or going...So much for appetite.Packed it with the lentils and hummus.That reminds me, don't forget to bring the quinoa.Good idea, we'll spring it on them after the fish course.I'm trying to get a good turn-out for the CF herf/bbq so let's not tell everyone it's Democratic National Committee fundraiser just yet.You guys can keep Boner if you want.Yeah and a "RINO Republican" drunk congressman serving as Speaker.So Texas is a red state and Ohio is blue? Who'dathunkit?Well, we do have a Republican governor. So there's that. Lol
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 01:43:22 PM
Step 2: Show her your Woody and tell her happy birthday.Step 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 01:44:00 PM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 01:44:41 PM
You've uncovered a whole new market!Dildo rest?Back in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.you making her a cigar rest too? or custom fitted shoe trees?
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 01:53:48 PM
That song has the most epic lyrics to me - gets better every time you listen to it.Just watched it. Amazing.Have you seen 'The Golden Rule'? Lady Gaga does it with JT and AS, it's about how dudes 'shouldn't touch' during a 3some...that's my favorite oneStep 1: Cut a hole in a box...Tie a ribbon around your dowel rod, tell her happy birthday.Nah, she already has a coffin for me :) A jewelry holder, that's wall mounted. Some hoops for necklaces and a bar(dowel rod) for earringsBack in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.
A matching humidor?
HAha! This one and On a Boat are two of my favorites.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 01:54:15 PM
In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 01:54:32 PM
LALTSYou've uncovered a whole new market!Dildo rest?Back in the house, was working on a project for the warden - her birthday tomorrow.you making her a cigar rest too? or custom fitted shoe trees?
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 02:15:53 PM
Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 02:18:00 PM
Commie mark-up, no doubt.Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
Mother of god! Spendy to kill those damn Democrats...we are still talkin politics right?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 02:18:24 PM
LALTS!Mother of god! Spendy to kill those damn Democrats...we are still talkin politics right?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: LuvTooGolf on April 27, 2015, 02:18:51 PM
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 02:20:21 PM
Alright, that'll just about do it for me. Hazzuh!Catch ya later Dave
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 02:21:27 PM
And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 02:21:45 PM
Later GolfAlright, that'll just about do it for me. Hazzuh!Catch ya later Dave
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 02:22:51 PM
Easily. Only 1 product that reliably works and only 1 company makes it.And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 02:23:31 PM
Does it start with 'Mon' and end with 'santo'?Easily. Only 1 product that reliably works and only 1 company makes it.And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 02:26:00 PM
Then it would only kill everything but the termitesDoes it start with 'Mon' and end with 'santo'?Easily. Only 1 product that reliably works and only 1 company makes it.And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 02:33:05 PM
If only it were so easy and cheap...Mother of god! Spendy to kill those damn Democrats...we are still talkin politics right?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 03:00:35 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 03:01:59 PM
Dont get all liberal Corporate conspiracy on me....next you will start ranting about GMO's, Vaccines and such and you will really get me going.Does it start with 'Mon' and end with 'santo'?Easily. Only 1 product that reliably works and only 1 company makes it.And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 03:02:34 PM
Post by: cigarbreath on April 27, 2015, 03:04:53 PM
Do bears still shit in the woods?Looks like the Daily Deals SuckIn other news, the Pope is Catholic. Morning, gents.
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 03:08:12 PM
Do bears still shit in the woods?Looks like the Daily Deals SuckIn other news, the Pope is Catholic. Morning, gents.
Some bears sh!t it up on the football field... just sayin'
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 03:10:27 PM
So, Tex... Where's the best AR deal this week? Guess I need a backup.If you are not in a hurry, because sometimes they ship slow, Palmetto State Armory usually always has a couple of good AR deals but I have not seen any great deals this week except on some el cheapo ATI's for a very low price of $459.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 03:20:28 PM
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 03:24:03 PM
CDNN.com seems to often have pretty good deals on ARs and parts.So, Tex... Where's the best AR deal this week? Guess I need a backup.If you are not in a hurry, because sometimes they ship slow, Palmetto State Armory usually always has a couple of good AR deals but I have not seen any great deals this week except on some el cheapo ATI's for a very low price of $459.
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 03:24:18 PM
Would someone like to call Lori for me? I ordered a box of 12 MoW Side Projects - Skull Crusher for $49.99 last week and they arrived over the weekend. Upon inspection the packing slip was correct but they shipped me 2 - 5 paks (10 total not even 12) of MOW Dark Horse - the ones made out of leftover fillers. Bastiges~What would you like me to call her?
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 03:29:43 PM
Cunt should get the coversation started.Would someone like to call Lori for me? I ordered a box of 12 MoW Side Projects - Skull Crusher for $49.99 last week and they arrived over the weekend. Upon inspection the packing slip was correct but they shipped me 2 - 5 paks (10 total not even 12) of MOW Dark Horse - the ones made out of leftover fillers. Bastiges~What would you like me to call her?
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 03:31:57 PM
Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 03:32:25 PM
CDNN.com seems to often have pretty good deals on ARs and parts.So, Tex... Where's the best AR deal this week? Guess I need a backup.If you are not in a hurry, because sometimes they ship slow, Palmetto State Armory usually always has a couple of good AR deals but I have not seen any great deals this week except on some el cheapo ATI's for a very low price of $459.
Lot of stuff won't make it past the work firewall, so I do most of this research at home. Although, your addy looks a little strange to me. "Please login to use CDNN project management system. " Ocean view login page. I'm not familiar with this site, but is this correct? Login Only? It could be the commies, so I ain't signin up. ;)
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 03:32:40 PM
"Big Gov't, Tax Incentives, etc" ;)Dont get all liberal Corporate conspiracy on me....next you will start ranting about GMO's, Vaccines and such and you will really get me going.Does it start with 'Mon' and end with 'santo'?Easily. Only 1 product that reliably works and only 1 company makes it.And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 03:33:45 PM
It's a trap!!!!!CDNN.com seems to often have pretty good deals on ARs and parts.So, Tex... Where's the best AR deal this week? Guess I need a backup.If you are not in a hurry, because sometimes they ship slow, Palmetto State Armory usually always has a couple of good AR deals but I have not seen any great deals this week except on some el cheapo ATI's for a very low price of $459.
Lot of stuff won't make it past the work firewall, so I do most of this research at home. Although, your addy looks a little strange to me. "Please login to use CDNN project management system. " Ocean view login page. I'm not familiar with this site, but is this correct? Login Only? It could be the commies, so I ain't signin up. ;)
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 03:35:11 PM
Due to the possibility of protests in the Baltimore downtown area and the chance that the rioting and looting that occurred Saturday may continue this afternoon we have asked our staff to travel home and telework the rest of the day.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 03:36:05 PM
Just in from our Baltimore, MD office:There's a reason they don't call it Merryland...
Due to the possibility of protests in the Baltimore downtown area and the chance that the rioting and looting that occurred Saturday may continue this afternoon we have asked our staff to travel home and telework the rest of the day.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 03:37:49 PM
LMFAO! Well done.Do bears still shit in the woods?Looks like the Daily Deals SuckIn other news, the Pope is Catholic. Morning, gents.
Some bears sh!t it up on the football field... just sayin'
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 03:38:23 PM
It's a trap!!!!!CDNN.com seems to often have pretty good deals on ARs and parts.So, Tex... Where's the best AR deal this week? Guess I need a backup.If you are not in a hurry, because sometimes they ship slow, Palmetto State Armory usually always has a couple of good AR deals but I have not seen any great deals this week except on some el cheapo ATI's for a very low price of $459.
Lot of stuff won't make it past the work firewall, so I do most of this research at home. Although, your addy looks a little strange to me. "Please login to use CDNN project management system. " Ocean view login page. I'm not familiar with this site, but is this correct? Login Only? It could be the commies, so I ain't signin up. ;)
Haha!
(http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.php?ACT=41&fid=5&aid=5625_ZET9ATYCdH0UTjlC3YXR&board_id=1)
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 03:41:16 PM
Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 03:42:06 PM
And another reason to buy another AR in the 45 or so semi-free States.Just in from our Baltimore, MD office:There's a reason they don't call it Merryland...
Due to the possibility of protests in the Baltimore downtown area and the chance that the rioting and looting that occurred Saturday may continue this afternoon we have asked our staff to travel home and telework the rest of the day.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 03:47:43 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 03:48:02 PM
So, all caught up then CB? Good Afternoon!Do bears still shit in the woods?Looks like the Daily Deals SuckIn other news, the Pope is Catholic. Morning, gents.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 03:49:01 PM
Just in from our Baltimore, MD office:Does that mean you can go home and telework too?
Due to the possibility of protests in the Baltimore downtown area and the chance that the rioting and looting that occurred Saturday may continue this afternoon we have asked our staff to travel home and telework the rest of the day.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 03:51:22 PM
Wish I could but I ain't in Baltimore. But now I only got about 20 more minutes and I don't have to telework I can just go smoke.Just in from our Baltimore, MD office:Does that mean you can go home and telework too?
Due to the possibility of protests in the Baltimore downtown area and the chance that the rioting and looting that occurred Saturday may continue this afternoon we have asked our staff to travel home and telework the rest of the day.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 03:53:57 PM
Go all democrat on em 'But that's not fair if they get to go home and we don't get to!'Wish I could but I ain't in Baltimore.Just in from our Baltimore, MD office:Does that mean you can go home and telework too?
Due to the possibility of protests in the Baltimore downtown area and the chance that the rioting and looting that occurred Saturday may continue this afternoon we have asked our staff to travel home and telework the rest of the day.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 03:55:19 PM
Damn CG, you only been a commie for a couple of weeks and already got it all figured outGo all democrat on em 'But that's not fair if they get to go home and we don't get to!'Wish I could but I ain't in Baltimore.Just in from our Baltimore, MD office:Does that mean you can go home and telework too?
Due to the possibility of protests in the Baltimore downtown area and the chance that the rioting and looting that occurred Saturday may continue this afternoon we have asked our staff to travel home and telework the rest of the day.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 03:56:35 PM
Gotta keep your enemies close! :DDamn CG, you only been a commie for a couple of weeks and already got it all figured outGo all democrat on em 'But that's not fair if they get to go home and we don't get to!'Wish I could but I ain't in Baltimore.Just in from our Baltimore, MD office:Does that mean you can go home and telework too?
Due to the possibility of protests in the Baltimore downtown area and the chance that the rioting and looting that occurred Saturday may continue this afternoon we have asked our staff to travel home and telework the rest of the day.
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 04:02:52 PM
Oops, sorry. Should have been http://www.cdnnsports.com/CDNN.com seems to often have pretty good deals on ARs and parts.So, Tex... Where's the best AR deal this week? Guess I need a backup.If you are not in a hurry, because sometimes they ship slow, Palmetto State Armory usually always has a couple of good AR deals but I have not seen any great deals this week except on some el cheapo ATI's for a very low price of $459.
Lot of stuff won't make it past the work firewall, so I do most of this research at home. Although, your addy looks a little strange to me. "Please login to use CDNN project management system. " Ocean view login page. I'm not familiar with this site, but is this correct? Login Only? It could be the commies, so I ain't signin up. ;)
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 04:03:18 PM
...and stopped.Cunt should get the coversation started.Would someone like to call Lori for me? I ordered a box of 12 MoW Side Projects - Skull Crusher for $49.99 last week and they arrived over the weekend. Upon inspection the packing slip was correct but they shipped me 2 - 5 paks (10 total not even 12) of MOW Dark Horse - the ones made out of leftover fillers. Bastiges~What would you like me to call her?
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 04:09:14 PM
Welll as a matter of fact I do have issues with GMO's and most anything else Mon ending in Santo is associated with but no ranting. When I was working in MO i used to stay at a hotel right by the Mon Santo GMO research facility and let me tell you if the White House had that much security people would not be slipping in there.Dont get all liberal Corporate conspiracy on me....next you will start ranting about GMO's, Vaccines and such and you will really get me going.Does it start with 'Mon' and end with 'santo'?Easily. Only 1 product that reliably works and only 1 company makes it.And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 04:09:49 PM
Actuallly I think I already called her that and she did not shut up...and stopped.Cunt should get the coversation started.Would someone like to call Lori for me? I ordered a box of 12 MoW Side Projects - Skull Crusher for $49.99 last week and they arrived over the weekend. Upon inspection the packing slip was correct but they shipped me 2 - 5 paks (10 total not even 12) of MOW Dark Horse - the ones made out of leftover fillers. Bastiges~What would you like me to call her?
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 04:10:33 PM
Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass 8)
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 04:16:31 PM
Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms. I actually own a new-in-the-box HK-91 I bought back in the day, 1984 to be exact.Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass 8)
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 04:17:44 PM
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 04:21:54 PM
I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 04:33:34 PM
I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 04:35:45 PM
Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 04:36:41 PM
Much more important stuff going on there than the White House.Welll as a matter of fact I do have issues with GMO's and most anything else Mon ending in Santo is associated with but no ranting. When I was working in MO i used to stay at a hotel right by the Mon Santo GMO research facility and let me tell you if the White House had that much security people would not be slipping in there.Dont get all liberal Corporate conspiracy on me....next you will start ranting about GMO's, Vaccines and such and you will really get me going.Does it start with 'Mon' and end with 'santo'?Easily. Only 1 product that reliably works and only 1 company makes it.And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 04:37:24 PM
TWSS in the first place.....and got you!Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 04:38:29 PM
I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Breathe in a little bit of that freshly applied perfume!
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 04:38:30 PM
;DTWSS in the first place.....and got you!Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Post by: BackyardSmoker on April 27, 2015, 04:40:25 PM
Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Poplar is still a hardwood! That's all she's asking for. ;)
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 04:45:53 PM
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 04:47:31 PM
I wanted to do a cool wood with some nice figure to it, she just wanted it as close to black as it could get(twss)Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Poplar is still a hardwood! That's all she's asking for. ;)
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 04:50:53 PM
They want nothing less than world domination. Part of that is controlling the food supply. Is that where they started from? Probably not, but somewhere along the line they decided they would set a goal and pursue it ruthlessly.Welll as a matter of fact I do have issues with GMO's and most anything else Mon ending in Santo is associated with but no ranting. When I was working in MO i used to stay at a hotel right by the Mon Santo GMO research facility and let me tell you if the White House had that much security people would not be slipping in there.Dont get all liberal Corporate conspiracy on me....next you will start ranting about GMO's, Vaccines and such and you will really get me going.Does it start with 'Mon' and end with 'santo'?Easily. Only 1 product that reliably works and only 1 company makes it.And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
TWSS indeed. She trying to tell you something?I wanted to do a cool wood with some nice figure to it, she just wanted it as close to black as it could get(twss)Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Poplar is still a hardwood! That's all she's asking for. ;)
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
Probably - she hasn't heard about the white wale though, so there might still be hopeTWSS indeed. She trying to tell you something?I wanted to do a cool wood with some nice figure to it, she just wanted it as close to black as it could get(twss)Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Poplar is still a hardwood! That's all she's asking for. ;)
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 05:00:38 PM
Yea, but they gotta share with Exxon, Microsoft, GE, Apple, Walmart, Comcast and all the others. They would do a better job than Washington in any case. We need them to fight off China and Russia as our government is just giving us away to them.They want nothing less than world domination. Part of that is controlling the food supply. Is that where they started from? Probably not, but somewhere along the line they decided they would set a goal and pursue it ruthlessly.Welll as a matter of fact I do have issues with GMO's and most anything else Mon ending in Santo is associated with but no ranting. When I was working in MO i used to stay at a hotel right by the Mon Santo GMO research facility and let me tell you if the White House had that much security people would not be slipping in there.Dont get all liberal Corporate conspiracy on me....next you will start ranting about GMO's, Vaccines and such and you will really get me going.Does it start with 'Mon' and end with 'santo'?Easily. Only 1 product that reliably works and only 1 company makes it.And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
I see no problem with it.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 05:02:16 PM
May be a while before I can get out to the Dakota's though....not many medical device companies there...Probably - she hasn't heard about the white wale though, so there might still be hopeTWSS indeed. She trying to tell you something?I wanted to do a cool wood with some nice figure to it, she just wanted it as close to black as it could get(twss)Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Poplar is still a hardwood! That's all she's asking for. ;)
But for a friend, I'll see what I can do...
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 05:02:38 PM
I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms. I actually own a new-in-the-box HK-91 I bought back in the day, 1984 to be exact.Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass 8)
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
Should I bring her to the herf in San Diego?May be a while before I can get out to the Dakota's though....not many medical device companies there...Probably - she hasn't heard about the white wale though, so there might still be hopeTWSS indeed. She trying to tell you something?I wanted to do a cool wood with some nice figure to it, she just wanted it as close to black as it could get(twss)Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Poplar is still a hardwood! That's all she's asking for. ;)
But for a friend, I'll see what I can do...
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 05:07:28 PM
Interesting point of view. I am interested what the different banter BOTLs think about these issues, since we have guys with different backgrounds, levels of education and experience from all over the country and some from other parts. Maybe if we have a chance to herf in person, I can hear more, TD.Yea, but they gotta share with Exxon, Microsoft, GE, Apple, Walmart, Comcast and all the others. They would do a better job than Washington in any case. We need them to fight off China and Russia as our government is just giving us away to them.They want nothing less than world domination. Part of that is controlling the food supply. Is that where they started from? Probably not, but somewhere along the line they decided they would set a goal and pursue it ruthlessly.Welll as a matter of fact I do have issues with GMO's and most anything else Mon ending in Santo is associated with but no ranting. When I was working in MO i used to stay at a hotel right by the Mon Santo GMO research facility and let me tell you if the White House had that much security people would not be slipping in there.Dont get all liberal Corporate conspiracy on me....next you will start ranting about GMO's, Vaccines and such and you will really get me going.Does it start with 'Mon' and end with 'santo'?Easily. Only 1 product that reliably works and only 1 company makes it.And you believed that?Bastiges are hell to deal with. Guy told me the poison cost $800/3 gallons.In my office now, quiet here! 3-5 days termites should be dead.Little commie bastiges!
I see no problem with it.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
I told ya, it's a nice place, women stopping in is not unusual. Have a nice wine selection as well as beers. Of course she's welcome.Should I bring her to the herf in San Diego?May be a while before I can get out to the Dakota's though....not many medical device companies there...Probably - she hasn't heard about the white wale though, so there might still be hopeTWSS indeed. She trying to tell you something?I wanted to do a cool wood with some nice figure to it, she just wanted it as close to black as it could get(twss)Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Poplar is still a hardwood! That's all she's asking for. ;)
But for a friend, I'll see what I can do...
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 05:09:15 PM
I only have shotguns, so I'll weigh in. Best and most reliable, IMO, with modification potential is a Remington 870. I have a 20 and 12 ga, both magnums, and have never had an issue - 20ga is 12years old and the 12 is 21yo). I really like my 11-87 for a Semi-Auto Remington, but unnecessary for home defense. I think they hold 7 rounds, would have to check - also get a neoprene side holder to add 4-6 extra shells close to your disposal.I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms. I actually own a new-in-the-box HK-91 I bought back in the day, 1984 to be exact.Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass 8)
I don't have a home defense weapon, just hunting shotguns with normal field specifications. :D
When I go deer hunting I use a Remington .270 pump and I love it, but I don't have enough experience to give a great review. I shot it a couple times on the range and once to kill a deer - worked at designed ;)
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 05:10:38 PM
What day do you get to SD? Would a Sunday night herf be out of the question? We are starting to plan out our day trips/activities and just looking at possibilities. I know Joe likes Tuesdays - I can probably swing that, just need to ok it with my professor.I told ya, it's a nice place, women stopping in is not unusual. Have a nice wine selection as well as beers. Of course she's welcome.Should I bring her to the herf in San Diego?May be a while before I can get out to the Dakota's though....not many medical device companies there...Probably - she hasn't heard about the white wale though, so there might still be hopeTWSS indeed. She trying to tell you something?I wanted to do a cool wood with some nice figure to it, she just wanted it as close to black as it could get(twss)Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Poplar is still a hardwood! That's all she's asking for. ;)
But for a friend, I'll see what I can do...
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 05:15:26 PM
I can't help you with your previous question about firearms but I may have an opinion on this one. I just don't want to type so much so I'll save it for Friday.Yea, but they gotta share with Exxon, Microsoft, GE, Apple, Walmart, Comcast and all the others. They would do a better job than Washington in any case. We need them to fight off China and Russia as our government is just giving us away to them.Interesting point of view. I am interested what the different banter BOTLs think about these issues, since we have guys with different backgrounds, levels of education and experience from all over the country and some from other parts. Maybe if we have a chance to herf in person, I can hear more, TD.
I see no problem with it.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on April 27, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 05:22:30 PM
It's time to call it a day, folks. I heard it's nice out so maybe I can squeeze in a cigar. Adios muchachos.Later Tony
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 05:24:57 PM
Well, I don't own and haven't shot a rifle in a long time, but let me vote on the other two. For Shotgun, either the Remington 870 or Mossberg 500, (I went with the Remington), for pistol I like Glock 17, Springfield XDm and FNS. My choice is the FNSI'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms. I actually own a new-in-the-box HK-91 I bought back in the day, 1984 to be exact.Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass 8)
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 05:33:03 PM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 05:33:59 PM
And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 05:35:02 PM
No odor at allI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Breathe in a little bit of that freshly applied perfume!
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 05:35:49 PM
Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 05:35:54 PM
It's easier that way :)No odor at allI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Breathe in a little bit of that freshly applied perfume!
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 05:35:54 PM
Sounds more like a Dad birthday surprise to meJust attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Post by: CigarGuy87 on April 27, 2015, 05:36:14 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 05:36:48 PM
On a cigar note: Atlantic has an Ortega sampler with all 8 Wild Bunch cigars for $35That is a good offering. Been up a couple of weeks.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 05:37:19 PM
Well that would leave us to thinking a few things there Woody.I wanted to do a cool wood with some nice figure to it, she just wanted it as close to black as it could get(twss)Just attached the necklace hooks and applied the second coat of Ebony stain(used poplar wood). Wife is boring and said she didn't want a fancy wood, her loss!I believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
Poplar is still a hardwood! That's all she's asking for. ;)
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 05:54:07 PM
Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 05:57:13 PM
I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 05:59:56 PM
Thanks, Shaun. Have a fun SD trip (isn't that just south of you)? ::)I only have shotguns, so I'll weigh in. Best and most reliable, IMO, with modification potential is a Remington 870. I have a 20 and 12 ga, both magnums, and have never had an issue - 20ga is 12years old and the 12 is 21yo). I really like my 11-87 for a Semi-Auto Remington, but unnecessary for home defense. I think they hold 7 rounds, would have to check - also get a neoprene side holder to add 4-6 extra shells close to your disposal.I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms. I actually own a new-in-the-box HK-91 I bought back in the day, 1984 to be exact.Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass 8)
I don't have a home defense weapon, just hunting shotguns with normal field specifications. :D
When I go deer hunting I use a Remington .270 pump and I love it, but I don't have enough experience to give a great review. I shot it a couple times on the range and once to kill a deer - worked at designed ;)
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 06:04:53 PM
Thanks, TDave! Good info. These suggestions are reminding me of pieces that have been mentioned in the past.Well, I don't own and haven't shot a rifle in a long time, but let me vote on the other two. For Shotgun, either the Remington 870 or Mossberg 500, (I went with the Remington), for pistol I like Glock 17, Springfield XDm and FNS. My choice is the FNSI'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms. I actually own a new-in-the-box HK-91 I bought back in the day, 1984 to be exact.Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass 8)
Post by: cigarbreath on April 27, 2015, 06:09:45 PM
It's time to call it a day, folks. I heard it's nice out so maybe I can squeeze in a cigar. Adios muchachos.Later, Baron of Bergen.
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 06:13:04 PM
Thanks, TR!!!Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:16:07 PM
If going to Baltimore tonight better have one of each with you and lots of ammo they are tearing the place up. 7 cops sent to the hospital alreadyThanks, TR!!!Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 06:17:02 PM
Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
Yes, but forcing it to three makes for an interesting challenge. Since I can't have an appropriate gun for every purpose, how do I compromise?
But you bent the rules of the game. Only one handgun allowed. Is it a revolver, or a semi-auto?
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 06:18:01 PM
Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:19:46 PM
Funny just got an email special on FNS pistols from Palmetto State Armory.Thanks, TDave! Good info. These suggestions are reminding me of pieces that have been mentioned in the past.Well, I don't own and haven't shot a rifle in a long time, but let me vote on the other two. For Shotgun, either the Remington 870 or Mossberg 500, (I went with the Remington), for pistol I like Glock 17, Springfield XDm and FNS. My choice is the FNSI'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms. I actually own a new-in-the-box HK-91 I bought back in the day, 1984 to be exact.Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass 8)
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:22:49 PM
Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:23:58 PM
Semi Auto without a doubtWell here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
Yes, but forcing it to three makes for an interesting challenge. Since I can't have an appropriate gun for every purpose, how do I compromise?But you bent the rules of the game. Only one handgun allowed. Is it a revolver, or a semi-auto?
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:27:35 PM
Also he did not ask about ammo but selecting the right ammo is essential for performance regardless of caliber.Semi Auto without a doubtWell here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
Yes, but forcing it to three makes for an interesting challenge. Since I can't have an appropriate gun for every purpose, how do I compromise?But you bent the rules of the game. Only one handgun allowed. Is it a revolver, or a semi-auto?
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 06:32:43 PM
But you have to consider that against my squad-tactics statement. Just because there's a group of people rioting or marauding doesn't make them a militia-type threat. Start shooting and there is a good chance that they'll break ranks and run for cover, unless they've been trained otherwise.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
There is no way to make one handgun, one rifle, and one shotgun an all-scenario perfect solution. You have to compromise and you have to consider the likely threat scenario, your own abilities, and your personal tactics and strategy. A military-style rifle is designed for use by trained groups to respond against trained groups. But if the likelihood of going up against some sort of paramilitary gang is less than the likelihood of dealing with a couple of bad guys or a starving small mob, then a bolt-action rifle and my own training and practice will likely get me through and still allow me to hunt up plenty of meat.
But if I was stuck in an urban environment, where the likeliest scenario is getting ambushed by an unruly mob, and the only game around is stray pets and coyotes, then I want a smaller-caliber weapon that can hold lots of cartridges. That's when a military-style rifle becomes a better choice than a hunting-rifle.
In my opinion, of course.
Post by: cigarbreath on April 27, 2015, 06:34:09 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 06:35:34 PM
Problem is the police are so afraid of doing anything. If they were to just take down 3-4 of the arrogant ringleaders, preferably wearing colors, the mass nonsense would stop. As it is the real problem element knows they can destroy cars, shops and no one will do anything.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 06:36:09 PM
Me, give me something belt fed. Just choot 'em!Really tough to hunt game with. Afternoon, Mikey.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 06:37:34 PM
Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 06:38:35 PM
Well, as my daughter lives in B'more...If going to Baltimore tonight better have one of each with you and lots of ammo they are tearing the place up. 7 cops sent to the hospital alreadyThanks, TR!!!Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 06:38:57 PM
In .50 AE?Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
Dave, you are so radical! Show some empathyProblem is the police are so afraid of doing anything. If they were to just take down 3-4 of the arrogant ringleaders, preferably wearing colors, the mass nonsense would stop. As it is the real problem element knows they can destroy cars, shops and no one will do anything.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:50:53 PM
Good time for her to come visit Pops. Hope she is far away from the area of town where this is going on. Watching it on tv and cops are literally doing nothing but watchingWell, as my daughter lives in B'more...If going to Baltimore tonight better have one of each with you and lots of ammo they are tearing the place up. 7 cops sent to the hospital alreadyThanks, TR!!!Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: cigarbreath on April 27, 2015, 06:53:16 PM
Does ruin a bit of meat. Afternoon Raz.Me, give me something belt fed. Just choot 'em!Really tough to hunt game with. Afternoon, Mikey.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:53:34 PM
What Caliber, I shot a .44 one and not bad but would like to try a .50AE for the hell of it.Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 06:54:24 PM
Nice ... good deal?Funny just got an email special on FNS pistols from Palmetto State Armory.Thanks, TDave! Good info. These suggestions are reminding me of pieces that have been mentioned in the past.Well, I don't own and haven't shot a rifle in a long time, but let me vote on the other two. For Shotgun, either the Remington 870 or Mossberg 500, (I went with the Remington), for pistol I like Glock 17, Springfield XDm and FNS. My choice is the FNSI'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms. I actually own a new-in-the-box HK-91 I bought back in the day, 1984 to be exact.Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass 8)
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 06:56:19 PM
The coverage continues with intensity ... how about a concealed carry flamethrower or roach killer?If going to Baltimore tonight better have one of each with you and lots of ammo they are tearing the place up. 7 cops sent to the hospital alreadyThanks, TR!!!Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 06:57:28 PM
$370 for black & $420 for Stainless and yes that is a good deal.Nice ... good deal?Funny just got an email special on FNS pistols from Palmetto State Armory.Thanks, TDave! Good info. These suggestions are reminding me of pieces that have been mentioned in the past.Well, I don't own and haven't shot a rifle in a long time, but let me vote on the other two. For Shotgun, either the Remington 870 or Mossberg 500, (I went with the Remington), for pistol I like Glock 17, Springfield XDm and FNS. My choice is the FNSI'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.Lots of .308 choices now in AR platforms. I actually own a new-in-the-box HK-91 I bought back in the day, 1984 to be exact.Gunbuyer.com has Colt A4 Flat Dark Earth mid lenght 20" for $869 with FS, that is not bad for a little higher quality AR.Sheesh, just the words Mon and Santo killed the damn banter.LOL!
Tombstone Tactical has DPMS for $731 Free Shipping
Kentucky Gun has Bushmaster A3 superlight carbine $619 Free Shipping but those bastiges charge 3% for using a CC, otherwise they are good.
Like the Colt for a 15. Actually, started looking for a .308. If money were no consideration, AR-10 SuperSass 8)
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 06:58:34 PM
That's the one. $1 a shell....In .50 AE?Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 06:58:44 PM
I've shot the .50AE and the recoil is quite significant, so either TD is more he-man than I am (quite possible, as I'm 5'8" and 150 lbs soaking wet) or it was one of the lesser calibers. But the Desert Eagle does absorb a lot of recoil. It's heavy, long barreled, and has a mechanically demanding action. It's far less punishing to shoot a .50AE Desert Eagle than, say, a Ruger Alaskan in .454. The Alaskan will about take your hand off if you aren't minding your P's and Q's when you fire it.What Caliber, I shot a .44 one and not bad but would like to try a .50AE for the hell of it.Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 07:00:28 PM
You said it right there - a can of roach spray and a butane lighter = instant concealable flamethrower. Wasp-killer spray works even better, as it's designed to shoot 12 feet.The coverage continues with intensity ... how about a concealed carry flamethrower or roach killer?If going to Baltimore tonight better have one of each with you and lots of ammo they are tearing the place up. 7 cops sent to the hospital alreadyThanks, TR!!!Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:04:08 PM
Yeah that jet stream wasp spray is bad ass stuff, also jet stream brake cleaner is very similar.You said it right there - a can of roach spray and a butane lighter = instant concealable flamethrower. Wasp-killer spray works even better, as it's designed to shoot 12 feet.The coverage continues with intensity ... how about a concealed carry flamethrower or roach killer?If going to Baltimore tonight better have one of each with you and lots of ammo they are tearing the place up. 7 cops sent to the hospital alreadyThanks, TR!!!Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bic1y.jpg)
But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:05:04 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 07:08:17 PM
I am....I backed down from one or two dozen before posting.Dave, you are so radical! Show some empathyProblem is the police are so afraid of doing anything. If they were to just take down 3-4 of the arrogant ringleaders, preferably wearing colors, the mass nonsense would stop. As it is the real problem element knows they can destroy cars, shops and no one will do anything.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 07:08:27 PM
A buck a shot would be a killer deal on .50 AE. Usually stays north of $1.50 per, and in your local retail store will be more like $1.75 per.That's the one. $1 a shell....In .50 AE?Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Three times in life I've come within inches of buying a .50 AE Desert Eagle, most recently about three weeks ago. They're fun and they're sexy...just not terribly practical.
Friend of mine bought a .45-70 revolver recently. I asked him if he was headed for Alaska. Nope.
Then why?
"Just because I can."
Hard to fault that logic.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 07:10:28 PM
The interesting thing is that the recoil was straight back without any push upwards. Much easier to absorb and no gun movement.I've shot the .50AE and the recoil is quite significant, so either TD is more he-man than I am (quite possible, as I'm 5'8" and 150 lbs soaking wet) or it was one of the lesser calibers. But the Desert Eagle does absorb a lot of recoil. It's heavy, long barreled, and has a mechanically demanding action. It's far less punishing to shoot a .50AE Desert Eagle than, say, a Ruger Alaskan in .454. The Alaskan will about take your hand off if you aren't minding your P's and Q's when you fire it.What Caliber, I shot a .44 one and not bad but would like to try a .50AE for the hell of it.Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:11:27 PM
LOL I have restrained myself several times as I watch it on TV. Lock & Load Monday on Sportsman Channel hard to decide what to watch.I am....I backed down from one or two dozen before posting.Dave, you are so radical! Show some empathyProblem is the police are so afraid of doing anything. If they were to just take down 3-4 of the arrogant ringleaders, preferably wearing colors, the mass nonsense would stop. As it is the real problem element knows they can destroy cars, shops and no one will do anything.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 07:12:30 PM
Wow, there you go ... I have experience with both, just not together, though when I was a kid I used to do that with a match and Right Guard deoderant, but didn't have the distance that the wasp spray would provide. Which reminds me, I need to refill my lighter which went dry yesterday. Going to do that and maybe head out to hopefully watch the Caps beat the Islanders and move past the first round for the first time in awhile!You said it right there - a can of roach spray and a butane lighter = instant concealable flamethrower. Wasp-killer spray works even better, as it's designed to shoot 12 feet.The coverage continues with intensity ... how about a concealed carry flamethrower or roach killer?If going to Baltimore tonight better have one of each with you and lots of ammo they are tearing the place up. 7 cops sent to the hospital alreadyThanks, TR!!!Well here it is, but first I must say I don't like reversible belts cause they look like chit on both sides and one gun to do all falls in that category.Gun question on the table, needing your 2 cents.And here I am plan fully implemented with CyB litI believe I will go my azz home and light a cigar on the freshly exterminated patio. Beautiful day here and about 80 degrees.Damn good plan!
I love it when a plan comes together.
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But using generalities here it is.
Auto Handgun: Glock 31 or 33 (.357 Sig) Or FNX .45 ACP
Large Revolver: S &W model 627. (.357 Magnum)
Shotgun: Hunting. Benelli Super Black Eagle II
Self Defense: FN or Benelli. 870 or Mossberg 500 are a good lower cost option though.
Hunting Rifle: Remington 700 BDL in appropriate caliber for game
Thanks for all of the interesting comments and discussion gents. In the back of my mind, under value/price, I was thinking of the cost and availability of
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 07:13:28 PM
I'm sure they have most of the ammo repacked at the range, so that might be part of the reason. Fun place to go as they have about anything you might want to fire for rent....very reasonable, but it's the ammo that gets you.A buck a shot would be a killer deal on .50 AE. Usually stays north of $1.50 per, and in your local retail store will be more like $1.75 per.That's the one. $1 a shell....In .50 AE?Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Three times in life I've come within inches of buying a .50 AE Desert Eagle, most recently about three weeks ago. They're fun and they're sexy...just not terribly practical.
Friend of mine bought a .45-70 revolver recently. I asked him if he was headed for Alaska. Nope.
Then why?
"Just because I can."
Hard to fault that logic.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:19:04 PM
That in GA?I'm sure they have most of the ammo repacked at the range, so that might be part of the reason. Fun place to go as they have about anything you might want to fire for rent....very reasonable, but it's the ammo that gets you.A buck a shot would be a killer deal on .50 AE. Usually stays north of $1.50 per, and in your local retail store will be more like $1.75 per.That's the one. $1 a shell....In .50 AE?Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Three times in life I've come within inches of buying a .50 AE Desert Eagle, most recently about three weeks ago. They're fun and they're sexy...just not terribly practical.
Friend of mine bought a .45-70 revolver recently. I asked him if he was headed for Alaska. Nope.
Then why?
"Just because I can."
Hard to fault that logic.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:21:00 PM
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
It's always the ammo that picks your pocket. I went through a hundred rounds of .40S&W on Saturday. Would have been $50 if they hadn't been handloads.I'm sure they have most of the ammo repacked at the range, so that might be part of the reason. Fun place to go as they have about anything you might want to fire for rent....very reasonable, but it's the ammo that gets you.A buck a shot would be a killer deal on .50 AE. Usually stays north of $1.50 per, and in your local retail store will be more like $1.75 per.That's the one. $1 a shell....In .50 AE?Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Three times in life I've come within inches of buying a .50 AE Desert Eagle, most recently about three weeks ago. They're fun and they're sexy...just not terribly practical.
Friend of mine bought a .45-70 revolver recently. I asked him if he was headed for Alaska. Nope.
Then why?
"Just because I can."
Hard to fault that logic.
Post by: razgueado on April 27, 2015, 07:23:16 PM
Chit, I will be up all night watching this, may have to call in sick tomorrow.I don't even want to know. That chit just pisses me off.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 07:39:26 PM
Yep, plinking ain't cheap anymore. That is why I bought a .22 LR Sig.It's always the ammo that picks your pocket. I went through a hundred rounds of .40S&W on Saturday. Would have been $50 if they hadn't been handloads.I'm sure they have most of the ammo repacked at the range, so that might be part of the reason. Fun place to go as they have about anything you might want to fire for rent....very reasonable, but it's the ammo that gets you.A buck a shot would be a killer deal on .50 AE. Usually stays north of $1.50 per, and in your local retail store will be more like $1.75 per.That's the one. $1 a shell....In .50 AE?Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Three times in life I've come within inches of buying a .50 AE Desert Eagle, most recently about three weeks ago. They're fun and they're sexy...just not terribly practical.
Friend of mine bought a .45-70 revolver recently. I asked him if he was headed for Alaska. Nope.
Then why?
"Just because I can."
Hard to fault that logic.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 07:46:28 PM
Yes, Athens area, so is a nice gun shop.That in GA?I'm sure they have most of the ammo repacked at the range, so that might be part of the reason. Fun place to go as they have about anything you might want to fire for rent....very reasonable, but it's the ammo that gets you.A buck a shot would be a killer deal on .50 AE. Usually stays north of $1.50 per, and in your local retail store will be more like $1.75 per.That's the one. $1 a shell....In .50 AE?Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Three times in life I've come within inches of buying a .50 AE Desert Eagle, most recently about three weeks ago. They're fun and they're sexy...just not terribly practical.
Friend of mine bought a .45-70 revolver recently. I asked him if he was headed for Alaska. Nope.
Then why?
"Just because I can."
Hard to fault that logic.
http://athensgunclub.com/about-us/
http://www.clydearmory.com/
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 07:58:55 PM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 08:26:27 PM
Looks like a very nice placeYes, Athens area, so is a nice gun shop.That in GA?I'm sure they have most of the ammo repacked at the range, so that might be part of the reason. Fun place to go as they have about anything you might want to fire for rent....very reasonable, but it's the ammo that gets you.A buck a shot would be a killer deal on .50 AE. Usually stays north of $1.50 per, and in your local retail store will be more like $1.75 per.That's the one. $1 a shell....In .50 AE?Fired a Desert Eagle for the first time two weeks ago. I was amazed at the lack of recoil.Shit I did not know we had to have a reason. Glock 31 because it carries a devastating punch without brutal recoil and holds 15 rounds.Thanks, Raz, for your input, especially for including your reasoning ... because that helps ...I'd like all the banter brothers to weigh in if you care to share your knowledge and experience. If you had to choose only one of each, one handgun, one rifle and one shotgun for one's personal safety and hunting which 3 would you choose, keeping in mind value/price, reliability, ease of use, maintainence & security. Of interest also would be a decent number of rounds that it can hold without reloading and shooting long guns off of left shoulder. (right handed but opposite eye dominant), or so I've been told.
You didn't specifically mention a SHTF type of global or national catastrophe, but given that I live in earthquake and volcano country I have to consider the possibility. So if I only get three:
Handgun: Glock 17 (9mm)
Rifle: Remington 700 in .308 NATO
Shotgun: Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge.
Simple reasoning: These are all at or near the top of the list of most popular weapons of all time, especially among law enforcement and military. So ammo, parts, and accessories would be easy to scrounge, steal, or seize. I don't include a military-style rifle (AR, AK, or the like) because:
A) They are not great hunting rifles, and the rounds for which they are most commonly chambered are not great hunting rounds
B) They are designed to be most effective in support of squad-based tactics, not individual self defense
C) They require careful maintenance to remain operable.
D) I don't believe that in a SHTF scenario the general populace will suddenly become battle-hardened and competent at squad tactics. So I can deal with the likely threat scenarios nearly as effectively with a .308 bolt-action and the shotgun as I could with a semi-auto military-style rifle, and still bring down about any size dinner-on-the-hoof.
But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group.
Of course, if Mt. Rainier goes up, it's an academic discussion for me, because I'd be vaporized in about 8 seconds.
If you believe the likeliest threat scenario is personal or property crime, then go for the Glock 22 (.40 S&W) for a handgun and make the shotgun a short-barrel.
If you believe you'll be stuck in an urban environment, make the rifle an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO.
Yes, I know you can get AR's in .308, but if it breaks and the power is out you'll have difficulty sourcing parts.
You'll notice I don't include any compact or sub-compact weapons. If I can only have one, it has to be full-sized. Compact weapons only have value in a relatively ordered society.
very interesting that you said, " But if you let me have four weapons instead of three, then I'd want to add an Armalite-style rifle in 5.56 NATO, just for dealing with the possibility of being surprised by a marauding group." because that's exactly what's going on only 40 miles to the north of us, and has non-stop local news coverage going on ... they aren't even stopping for commercial breaks ... no other coverage, just this with news copter footage. Before I was aware of what was going on, I spoke with my North Baltimore, CiL, about our CFest plans, smokes we've had over the weekend (FWIW, he liked the Nica Libre 25th Anniversary torpedo that I sent him), and an upcoming cigar dinner. This stuff hadn't really broken out yet at that time.
Three times in life I've come within inches of buying a .50 AE Desert Eagle, most recently about three weeks ago. They're fun and they're sexy...just not terribly practical.
Friend of mine bought a .45-70 revolver recently. I asked him if he was headed for Alaska. Nope.
Then why?
"Just because I can."
Hard to fault that logic.
http://athensgunclub.com/about-us/
http://www.clydearmory.com/
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 08:27:05 PM
Time to head back to the hotel....happy hour is upon us and cigars don't smoke themselves.Amen, have a nice evening.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 08:33:06 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 08:51:37 PM
BaltimoreYea, just got off the phone with my daughter. She's pretty well removed from the main areas but close enough to be disconcerting.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on April 27, 2015, 09:06:07 PM
Thankfully she is at least in a safer area .BaltimoreYea, just got off the phone with my daughter. She's pretty well removed from the main areas but close enough to be disconcerting.
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 09:20:40 PM
True.Thankfully she is at least in a safer area .BaltimoreYea, just got off the phone with my daughter. She's pretty well removed from the main areas but close enough to be disconcerting.
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 11:06:46 PM
Thanks for reporting, Dave. Glad she's in a good place.BaltimoreYea, just got off the phone with my daughter. She's pretty well removed from the main areas but close enough to be disconcerting.
Post by: SLY on April 27, 2015, 11:13:48 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 11:23:17 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 11:24:29 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on April 27, 2015, 11:46:43 PM