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Title: 1/7/2023
Post by: CigarBanter on January 07, 2023, 08:12:31 AM
What's up cigar enthusiasts?!  Any cigar deals on the various internet sites that are worth talking about? Join in this discussion and perhaps learn something along the way.  Warning: don't proceed if you have thin skin but don't be afraid to post either...  And welcome aboard!
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 08:34:08 AM
And everything is now right with the world.

Morning, all. Sitting at Midas right now, waiting for an oil change. If I make an appointment for when they open, and they can't even manage to get it started on time (currently 34 minutes after they opened and still sitting outside), what the fuck is even the point of an appointment?
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 08:34:33 AM
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Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 07, 2023, 08:41:10 AM
Still feels like yesterday around here.
Yeah. Sorry about the technical difficulties. I didn't have a phone/computer to login and make the flip. In the end it was no harm, no foul.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 07, 2023, 08:47:57 AM
I'm at the first of two basketball games we have today. The next one is at 5:pm.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 07, 2023, 08:50:15 AM
And everything is now right with the world.

Morning, all. Sitting at Midas right now, waiting for an oil change. If I make an appointment for when they open, and they can't even manage to get it started on time (currently 34 minutes after they opened and still sitting outside), what the fuck is even the point of an appointment?
I had the same issue yesterday. Took almost 90 minutes longer than expected to get oil changed and two tires installed (with appointment). Only difference was that I went to Pep Boys.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 09:25:43 AM
Welcome to the world nowadays. I even have to stay on the contractors at work to do there job and do it right.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 09:28:06 AM
Good morning Dave and Tony
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 09:45:13 AM
After all that has happened in the NFL this past week. I don't agree in the Chiefs getting the 1 seed if they beat the Raiders tomorrow
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 09:45:19 AM
Morning, muchachos.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 09:46:27 AM
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Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 09:49:06 AM
And everything is now right with the world.

Morning, all. Sitting at Midas right now, waiting for an oil change. If I make an appointment for when they open, and they can't even manage to get it started on time (currently 34 minutes after they opened and still sitting outside), what the fuck is even the point of an appointment?
I wouldn't trust Midas to scrape dogshit off my shoes, let alone touch one of my vehicles.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 09:55:24 AM
I'm at the first of two basketball games we have today. The next one is at 5:pm.
Didn't know you had added basketball to the mix...
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 09:58:02 AM
And everything is now right with the world.

Morning, all. Sitting at Midas right now, waiting for an oil change. If I make an appointment for when they open, and they can't even manage to get it started on time (currently 34 minutes after they opened and still sitting outside), what the fuck is even the point of an appointment?
I had the same issue yesterday. Took almost 90 minutes longer than expected to get oil changed and two tires installed (with appointment). Only difference was that I went to Pep Boys.
I always just take it to the dealership.  Done right, right parts, on time, coffee and snacks in the waiting room, free car wash and not that much more expensive.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 10:05:45 AM
And everything is now right with the world.

Morning, all. Sitting at Midas right now, waiting for an oil change. If I make an appointment for when they open, and they can't even manage to get it started on time (currently 34 minutes after they opened and still sitting outside), what the fuck is even the point of an appointment?
I wouldn't trust Midas to scrape dogshit off my shoes, let alone touch one of my vehicles.
I've had multiple things done there and have never had an issue. I had to wait a little longer, but it got done for a good price.

Morning, Page1Raz,StayOnEmRick, SportsballTony and DealershipDave.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:07:38 AM
After all that has happened in the NFL this past week. I don't agree in the Chiefs getting the 1 seed if they beat the Raiders tomorrow
The playoffs is complicated enough, I don't see how they could possibly work around skipping a game between two contenders and have it be fair to all.  I'm still trying to figure out all the neutral site games...
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:10:19 AM
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Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:12:38 AM
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Door #1
Nub Anthology Sampler
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Nub Anthology Sampler contains:

4 x NUB Cameroon 460 (4.0”x60)

4 x NUB Connecticut 460 (4.0”x60)

4 x NUB DUB 460 (4.0”x60)

4 x NUB PLUS Habano 560 (5.0”x60)
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:13:43 AM
Door #2

Oliva 10-Cigar Collection
10 Cigars
$39.99
MSRP : $73.71 | 46% OFF


Each Oliva 10-Cigar Collection includes:

2 - Oliva Serie 'G' Robusto Maduro (4.5" x 50) - '93' rated

2 - Oliva Serie 'G' Robusto (4.5" x 50) - '91' rated

2 - Oliva Master Blends III Robusto (5.0" x 50)

2 - Oliva Connecticut Reserve Robusto (5.0" x 50)

2 - Oliva Serie 'O' Robusto (5.0" x 50) - '94' rated
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:14:55 AM
And for Door #3

Montecristo Classic Churchill
(7.0"x54) Pack of 10
$54.99
MSRP : $160.40 | 66% OFF
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:17:36 AM
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Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:25:04 AM

Today is Saturday, Jan. 7, the seventh day of 2023.
There are 358 days left in the year.

Today’s Highlight in History:

On Jan. 7, 1953, President Truman announced in his State of the Union message to Congress that the United States had developed a hydrogen bomb.

On this date:

In 1608, an accidental fire devastated the Jamestown settlement in the Virginia Colony.

In 1789, America held its first presidential election as voters chose electors who, a month later, selected George Washington to be the nation’s first chief executive.

In 1927, commercial transatlantic telephone service was inaugurated between New York and London.

In 1955, singer Marian Anderson made her debut with the Metropolitan Opera in New York, in Verdi’s “Un Ballo in Maschera.”

In 1959, the United States recognized the new government of Cuba, six days after Fidel Castro led the overthrow of Fulgencio Batista.

In 1963, the U.S. Post Office raised the cost of a first-class stamp from 4 to 5 cents.

In 1979, Vietnamese forces captured the Cambodian capital of Phnom Penh, overthrowing the Khmer Rouge government.

In 1989, Emperor Hirohito of Japan died in Tokyo at age 87; he was succeeded by his son, Crown Prince Akihito.

In 1999, for the second time in history, an impeached American president went on trial before the Senate. President Bill Clinton faced charges of perjury and obstruction of justice; he was acquitted.

In 2004, President George W. Bush proposed legal status, at least temporarily, for millions of immigrants improperly working in the U.S.

In 2015, masked gunmen stormed the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo, a French newspaper that had caricatured the Prophet Mohammad, methodically killing 12 people, including the editor, before escaping in a car. (Two suspects were killed two days later.)

In 2019, Amazon eclipsed Microsoft as the most valuable publicly traded company in the U.S. For the first time in more than 25 years, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was absent from oral arguments as she recuperated from cancer surgery.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:26:15 AM
Ten years ago: President Barack Obama announced he would nominate former GOP Sen. Chuck Hagel as his next defense secretary, calling him “the leader our troops deserve”; Obama also chose White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan to lead the Central Intelligence Agency. The No. 2 Alabama Crimson Tide rolled top-ranked Notre Dame 42-14 for the BCS championship.


Five years ago: “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri” was the top film at the Golden Globe Awards, winning as best drama and taking home awards for stars Frances McDormand and Sam Rockwell and for writer-director Martin McDonagh. The Golden Globes ceremony became an expression of female empowerment in the post-Harvey Weinstein era, capped by a speech in which Cecil B. DeMille Award winner Oprah Winfrey said of men who use their power to abuse women, “Their time is up!” The arctic air that engulfed parts of the East Coast broke cold temperature records from Maine to West Virginia.

One year ago: Three white men who chased and killed Ahmaud Arbery were sentenced to life in prison; a judge in Georgia denied any chance of parole for the father and son who armed themselves and initiated the deadly pursuit of the 25-year-old Black man after spotting him running in their neighborhood. In a first for medical science, doctors at the University of Maryland transplanted a heart from a pig that had undergone gene-editing into a human patient in a last-ditch effort to save his life. (The patient, 57-year-old David Bennett, died two months later; he’d been considered too sick to get a human heart.)
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:29:04 AM
Today’s Birthdays:

Magazine publisher Jann Wenner is 77.
Singer Kenny Loggins is 75.
Singer-songwriter Marshall Chapman is 74.
Actor Erin Gray is 73.
Actor Sammo Hung is 71.
Actor Jodi Long is 69.
Actor David Caruso is 67.
Talk show host Katie Couric is 66.
Country singer David Lee Murphy is 64.
Rock musician Kathy Valentine is 64.
Actor David Marciano is 63.
Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., is 62.
Actor Hallie Todd is 61.
Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., is 60.
Actor Nicolas Cage is 59.
Singer-songwriter John Ondrasik (on-DRAH’-sik) (Five for Fighting) is 58.
Actor Rex Lee is 54.
Actor Doug E. Doug is 53.
Actor Kevin Rahm is 52.
Actor Jeremy Renner is 52.
Country singer-musician John Rich is 48.
Actor Reggie Austin is 44.
Singer-rapper Aloe Blacc is 44.
Actor Lauren Cohan is 41.
Actor Brett Dalton is 40.
Actor Robert Ri’chard is 40.
Actor Lyndsy Fonseca is 36.
Actor Liam Aiken is 33.
Actor Camryn Grimes is 33.
Actor Max Morrow is 32.
Actor Marcus Scribner is 23.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:29:32 AM
Today's Over/Under is 7
Raz Over/Under is 10
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 10:34:58 AM
Today's Over/Under is 7
Raz Over/Under is 10
Spot on, 7.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 10:39:27 AM
After all that has happened in the NFL this past week. I don't agree in the Chiefs getting the 1 seed if they beat the Raiders tomorrow
The playoffs is complicated enough, I don't see how they could possibly work around skipping a game between two contenders and have it be fair to all.  I'm still trying to figure out all the neutral site games...
Yes it is a mess. I think my only argument is both Cincy and Buffalo beat KC and I'm just so tired of the Chiefs
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:41:19 AM
Birthday coincidence for today. 
Both Jeremy Renner and Lyndsy Fonseca in the Marvel Universe.
Although I guess that's getting more common every day.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 10:41:24 AM
And everything is now right with the world.

Morning, all. Sitting at Midas right now, waiting for an oil change. If I make an appointment for when they open, and they can't even manage to get it started on time (currently 34 minutes after they opened and still sitting outside), what the fuck is even the point of an appointment?
I had the same issue yesterday. Took almost 90 minutes longer than expected to get oil changed and two tires installed (with appointment). Only difference was that I went to Pep Boys.
I always just take it to the dealership.  Done right, right parts, on time, coffee and snacks in the waiting room, free car wash and not that much more expensive.
Good morning Dave. My vehicle I take to the dealership and my wife's car which is a bit older I take to a family garage that has been in business for years and years
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 10:42:14 AM
We appear to have a new record for youngest school shooter:

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/shooting-virginia-elementary-school-wounds-202028895.html
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 10:42:37 AM
I think a Connecticut is in order. Gonna go dig
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 10:43:01 AM
After all that has happened in the NFL this past week. I don't agree in the Chiefs getting the 1 seed if they beat the Raiders tomorrow
The playoffs is complicated enough, I don't see how they could possibly work around skipping a game between two contenders and have it be fair to all.  I'm still trying to figure out all the neutral site games...
Yes it is a mess. I think my only argument is both Cincy and Buffalo beat KC and I'm just so tired of the Chiefs
A-freaking-men to that. There are so many teams anymore that I can't stand watching I sometimes have a tough time finding a game I can tolerate. Lol
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:43:28 AM
Today's Over/Under is 7
Raz Over/Under is 10
Spot on, 7.
Will these help any?
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:44:06 AM
Or these?
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:45:10 AM
Or this one for the more "mature" BOTLs.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 10:45:57 AM
After all that has happened in the NFL this past week. I don't agree in the Chiefs getting the 1 seed if they beat the Raiders tomorrow
The playoffs is complicated enough, I don't see how they could possibly work around skipping a game between two contenders and have it be fair to all.  I'm still trying to figure out all the neutral site games...
Yes it is a mess. I think my only argument is both Cincy and Buffalo beat KC and I'm just so tired of the Chiefs
A-freaking-men to that. There are so many teams anymore that I can't stand watching I sometimes have a tough time finding a game I can tolerate. Lol
Well, only two on today.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 10:52:18 AM
After all that has happened in the NFL this past week. I don't agree in the Chiefs getting the 1 seed if they beat the Raiders tomorrow
The playoffs is complicated enough, I don't see how they could possibly work around skipping a game between two contenders and have it be fair to all.  I'm still trying to figure out all the neutral site games...
Yes it is a mess. I think my only argument is both Cincy and Buffalo beat KC and I'm just so tired of the Chiefs
A-freaking-men to that. There are so many teams anymore that I can't stand watching I sometimes have a tough time finding a game I can tolerate. Lol
Well, only two on today.
True. Though, the second game is on late enough that I probably won't be watching, as I'll be in the man cave shortly after it starts and will likely be watching some show of mine.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 10:53:10 AM
Or these?
Still don't know either one, but as always, appreciate the visual aids.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 11:05:51 AM
I think a Connecticut is in order. Gonna go dig
Gift from one of my coworkers (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230107/4e9c8c0f5534e175a1784b4e33061424.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 11:12:38 AM
I think a Connecticut is in order. Gonna go dig
Gift from one of my coworkers (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230107/4e9c8c0f5534e175a1784b4e33061424.jpg)
That'll do.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 11:13:52 AM
And everything is now right with the world.

Morning, all. Sitting at Midas right now, waiting for an oil change. If I make an appointment for when they open, and they can't even manage to get it started on time (currently 34 minutes after they opened and still sitting outside), what the fuck is even the point of an appointment?
I wouldn't trust Midas to scrape dogshit off my shoes, let alone touch one of my vehicles.
I've had multiple things done there and have never had an issue. I had to wait a little longer, but it got done for a good price.

Morning, Page1Raz,StayOnEmRick, SportsballTony and DealershipDave.
Glad it's working for you. But for a miracle, Midas might have gotten my family and I killed.

I took my Suburban there for brakes, oil change, and overall check a few years ago, just before the pandemic. I took it there because doing brakes on a 99 Suburban requires some special tools and a 2-ton press. I explained it was a towing vehicle, so I needed it solid and safe for a trip the following weekend. Left it with them all day while I was at work. When I picked it up, they told me the brakes were fine, pads were still good, and they billed me for the oil change and inspection.

On the trip, the brakes didn't feel right. So I took it to a friend with a big shop when we got back and he and I tore it down. The brake pads were nearly nonexistent, and the front rotors were warped. In short, they didn't inspect shit, just charged me and sent me on my way.

No more Midas, ever again.



Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 11:16:04 AM
Today's Over/Under is 7
Raz Over/Under is 10
Twelve.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 11:17:09 AM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 11:21:17 AM
After all that has happened in the NFL this past week. I don't agree in the Chiefs getting the 1 seed if they beat the Raiders tomorrow
The playoffs is complicated enough, I don't see how they could possibly work around skipping a game between two contenders and have it be fair to all.  I'm still trying to figure out all the neutral site games...
Yes it is a mess. I think my only argument is both Cincy and Buffalo beat KC and I'm just so tired of the Chiefs
A-freaking-men to that. There are so many teams anymore that I can't stand watching I sometimes have a tough time finding a game I can tolerate. Lol
I haven't followed up on it. They have an applicable rule that called for then to use winning percentage. But the owners were meeting. Did they not apply the existing rule?
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 11:23:02 AM
And everything is now right with the world.

Morning, all. Sitting at Midas right now, waiting for an oil change. If I make an appointment for when they open, and they can't even manage to get it started on time (currently 34 minutes after they opened and still sitting outside), what the fuck is even the point of an appointment?
I wouldn't trust Midas to scrape dogshit off my shoes, let alone touch one of my vehicles.
I've had multiple things done there and have never had an issue. I had to wait a little longer, but it got done for a good price.

Morning, Page1Raz,StayOnEmRick, SportsballTony and DealershipDave.
Glad it's working for you. But for a miracle, Midas might have gotten my family and I killed.

I took my Suburban there for brakes, oil change, and overall check a few years ago, just before the pandemic. I took it there because doing brakes on a 99 Suburban requires some special tools and a 2-ton press. I explained it was a towing vehicle, so I needed it solid and safe for a trip the following weekend. Left it with them all day while I was at work. When I picked it up, they told me the brakes were fine, pads were still good, and they billed me for the oil change and inspection.

On the trip, the brakes didn't feel right. So I took it to a friend with a big shop when we got back and he and I tore it down. The brake pads were nearly nonexistent, and the front rotors were warped. In short, they didn't inspect shit, just charged me and sent me on my way.

No more Midas, ever again.
Understandable then. I feel the same way about Conrad's, though, because of a less life threatening reason. My grandpa took his car in there many years ago for an oil change. While there, they showed him a very dirty cabin filter and asked him if he wanted them to replace it. He said no, that he'd do it himself. Later, when he went to pull it out to change it, he found it was perfectly clean. They'd showed him one that they obviously kept around just to show people and hope they'd be disgusted enough by it to say sure, charge me twice what it costs to change something that doesn't need changing. Rat bastards.

But the joke is on them, cause that location is no longer there.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 11:24:13 AM
After all that has happened in the NFL this past week. I don't agree in the Chiefs getting the 1 seed if they beat the Raiders tomorrow
The playoffs is complicated enough, I don't see how they could possibly work around skipping a game between two contenders and have it be fair to all.  I'm still trying to figure out all the neutral site games...
Yes it is a mess. I think my only argument is both Cincy and Buffalo beat KC and I'm just so tired of the Chiefs
A-freaking-men to that. There are so many teams anymore that I can't stand watching I sometimes have a tough time finding a game I can tolerate. Lol
I haven't followed up on it. They have an applicable rule that called for then to use winning percentage. But the owners were meeting. Did they not apply the existing rule?
I started losing track of everything with all the neutral site possibilities. Since the Browns are out of it, I figure I'll wait until Monday to figure out who got in, who they'll be playing, and where.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 11:39:55 AM
Or this one for the more "mature" BOTLs.
I been called a lot of things.  Mature ain't one of them.  But I know Erin Gray to see her, to be sure.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 11:57:05 AM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 07, 2023, 12:06:12 PM
And everything is now right with the world.

Morning, all. Sitting at Midas right now, waiting for an oil change. If I make an appointment for when they open, and they can't even manage to get it started on time (currently 34 minutes after they opened and still sitting outside), what the fuck is even the point of an appointment?
I had the same issue yesterday. Took almost 90 minutes longer than expected to get oil changed and two tires installed (with appointment). Only difference was that I went to Pep Boys.
I always just take it to the dealership.  Done right, right parts, on time, coffee and snacks in the waiting room, free car wash and not that much more expensive.
Good morning Dave. My vehicle I take to the dealership and my wife's car which is a bit older I take to a family garage that has been in business for years and years
I wish I had a good local mechanic. I have to say that my local Pep Boys has done right by me... Most times.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 07, 2023, 12:13:04 PM
We appear to have a new record for youngest school shooter:

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/shooting-virginia-elementary-school-wounds-202028895.html
If you read the whole article, this wasn't the first 6-year old involved in such an incident. Crazy shit.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 12:30:12 PM
We appear to have a new record for youngest school shooter:

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/shooting-virginia-elementary-school-wounds-202028895.html
If you read the whole article, this wasn't the first 6-year old involved in such an incident. Crazy shit.
Idiot parents.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 12:32:28 PM
I'm at the first of two basketball games we have today. The next one is at 5:pm.
Didn't know you had added basketball to the mix...
It's tough being a baller
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 12:36:32 PM
We appear to have a new record for youngest school shooter:

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/shooting-virginia-elementary-school-wounds-202028895.html
If you read the whole article, this wasn't the first 6-year old involved in such an incident. Crazy shit.
I must've misread it. I thought towards the end, it said it was researched and the youngest one they had on record was 7.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 12:36:32 PM
I think a Connecticut is in order. Gonna go dig
Gift from one of my coworkers (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230107/4e9c8c0f5534e175a1784b4e33061424.jpg)
Straight out of Door #3!
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 12:41:24 PM
Or this one for the more "mature" BOTLs.
I been called a lot of things.  Mature ain't one of them.  But I know Erin Gray to see her, to be sure.
Mature in a physical sense, not mental... ;)
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 12:43:23 PM
We appear to have a new record for youngest school shooter:

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/shooting-virginia-elementary-school-wounds-202028895.html
If you read the whole article, this wasn't the first 6-year old involved in such an incident. Crazy shit.
Idiot parents.
Interesting legal situation as he is too young for Juvi.  I'm sure they will go after whomever is owner of the gun.  They will get more time than the kid.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 12:43:51 PM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
I honestly don't know much about him, but I do know there's no chance he ends up the nominee. I'd be very surprised if it's anyone other than DeSantis.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 12:44:34 PM
We appear to have a new record for youngest school shooter:

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/shooting-virginia-elementary-school-wounds-202028895.html
If you read the whole article, this wasn't the first 6-year old involved in such an incident. Crazy shit.
Idiot parents.
Most likely.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 12:45:59 PM
We appear to have a new record for youngest school shooter:

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/shooting-virginia-elementary-school-wounds-202028895.html
If you read the whole article, this wasn't the first 6-year old involved in such an incident. Crazy shit.
Idiot parents.
Interesting legal situation as he is too young for Juvi.  I'm sure they will go after whomever is owner of the gun.  They will get more time than the kid.
I doubt the kid even fully understands what he did. And based on the age, there are probably a lot of questions we'll never get answers to.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 12:47:06 PM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
2024 primary is going to make this Speaker debacle look like a lovefest.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 07, 2023, 12:50:14 PM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
2024 primary is going to make this Speaker debacle look like a lovefest.
Speaking of speakers, good first speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLOAQjjKJbM
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 12:55:21 PM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
2024 primary is going to make this Speaker debacle look like a lovefest.
At least during the primary season, they won't have a lot of new legislation to discuss. Because the House is looking like they're going to set records for futility.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 07, 2023, 01:00:57 PM
We appear to have a new record for youngest school shooter:

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/shooting-virginia-elementary-school-wounds-202028895.html
If you read the whole article, this wasn't the first 6-year old involved in such an incident. Crazy shit.
I must've misread it. I thought towards the end, it said it was researched and the youngest one they had on record was 7.
Same difference.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 07, 2023, 01:14:27 PM
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Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 01:44:14 PM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
I honestly don't know much about him, but I do know there's no chance he ends up the nominee. I'd be very surprised if it's anyone other than DeSantis.
Yale-educated, Summa Cum Laude.  Took a student deferment while in college, then enlisted in the National Guard for four years and Army Reserve for two. Completed Yale Law while in the Guard. Has freely admitted since 1995 that he enlisted in the National Guard upon graduation in 1970 because it reduced the odds he'd be sent to Vietnam.  He'd supported the war, but decided that the Johnson and Nixon administrations had so bolloxed it that it was a futile struggle so he did what he could to avoid it.  Unlike George W Bush, Bolton didn't have the protection of a powerful daddy (his dad was a fireman, mom a homemaker), and unlike anyone including Joe Biden (5 deferments before being "medicaled" because he'd had asthma as a child), he cops to avoiding Vietnam.

The guy is not a "statesman," if that word has any meaning anymore.  The Washington establishment fears him because of his integrity and his bluntness.  You can disagree with his principles and convictions, but it cannot be denied by any remotely objective analysis that he has them and has a long history of refusing to compromise them.  He's pissed off not only Democrats, but has without fail pissed off the Republican presidents for which he's worked, including both W and Trump. 

He's a foreign policy hawk, and unabashedly convinced that American foreign policy should pursue American interests first.  That got him associated with the Neocons, but that is an absurdity.  The Neocons advocated nation-building and regime change, and Bolton opposes those notions.  In Bolton's view, American power should not be used to attempt to spread Democracy, because that's a fool's errand.  American power pursues American interests and forces other nations to toe the line. So, the Neocons hated Bolton. 

Bolton is the only DC guy I'm aware of that takes a realistic view of the nature of foreign relations and admits it. He sees foreign relations as a war that must be fought because there is no stasis to be achieved. A nation either expands its influence on the world, or it will be controlled by the nations that do. And he believes that the United States is uniquely qualified to influence the world. I have a lot of sympathy for this view, because China and Russia aren't qualified for it and no other nations are even in the race. 

Bolton's appeal to me is that he won't conceal his views under happy horseshit like "peaceful coexistence" or "detente" or "a thousand points of light" or "compassionate conservatism." He's a realist. But that is also why he'll never be president.  He scares people.  Especially politicians.  Foreign politicians above all. 
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 01:50:00 PM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
I honestly don't know much about him, but I do know there's no chance he ends up the nominee. I'd be very surprised if it's anyone other than DeSantis.
Yale-educated, Summa Cum Laude.  Took a student deferment while in college, then enlisted in the National Guard for four years and Army Reserve for two. Completed Yale Law while in the Guard. Has freely admitted since 1995 that he enlisted in the National Guard upon graduation in 1970 because it reduced the odds he'd be sent to Vietnam.  He'd supported the war, but decided that the Johnson and Nixon administrations had so bolloxed it that it was a futile struggle so he did what he could to avoid it.  Unlike George W Bush, Bolton didn't have the protection of a powerful daddy (his dad was a fireman, mom a homemaker), and unlike anyone including Joe Biden (5 deferments before being "medicaled" because he'd had asthma as a child), he cops to avoiding Vietnam.

The guy is not a "statesman," if that word has any meaning anymore.  The Washington establishment fears him because of his integrity and his bluntness.  You can disagree with his principles and convictions, but it cannot be denied by any remotely objective analysis that he has them and has a long history of refusing to compromise them.  He's pissed off not only Democrats, but has without fail pissed off the Republican presidents for which he's worked, including both W and Trump. 

He's a foreign policy hawk, and unabashedly convinced that American foreign policy should pursue American interests first.  That got him associated with the Neocons, but he isn't remotely a Neocon - and the real Neocons will tell you so, because they hated him too.

Bolton is the only DC guy I'm aware of that takes a realistic view of the nature of foreign relations and admits it. He sees foreign relations as a war that must be fought because there is no stasis to be achieved. A nation either expands its influence on the world, or it will be controlled by the nations that do. And he believes that the United States is uniquely qualified to influence the world. I have a lot of sympathy for this view, because China and Russia aren't qualified for it and no other nations are even in the race.

Bolton's appeal to me is that he won't conceal his views under happy horseshit like "peaceful coexistence" or "detente" or "a thousand points of light" or "compassionate conservatism." He's a realist. But that is also why he'll never be president.  He scares people.  Especially politicians.  Foreign politicians above all.
He sounds like quite the character.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 02:00:39 PM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
I honestly don't know much about him, but I do know there's no chance he ends up the nominee. I'd be very surprised if it's anyone other than DeSantis.
Yale-educated, Summa Cum Laude.  Took a student deferment while in college, then enlisted in the National Guard for four years and Army Reserve for two. Completed Yale Law while in the Guard. Has freely admitted since 1995 that he enlisted in the National Guard upon graduation in 1970 because it reduced the odds he'd be sent to Vietnam.  He'd supported the war, but decided that the Johnson and Nixon administrations had so bolloxed it that it was a futile struggle so he did what he could to avoid it.  Unlike George W Bush, Bolton didn't have the protection of a powerful daddy (his dad was a fireman, mom a homemaker), and unlike anyone including Joe Biden (5 deferments before being "medicaled" because he'd had asthma as a child), he cops to avoiding Vietnam.

The guy is not a "statesman," if that word has any meaning anymore.  The Washington establishment fears him because of his integrity and his bluntness.  You can disagree with his principles and convictions, but it cannot be denied by any remotely objective analysis that he has them and has a long history of refusing to compromise them.  He's pissed off not only Democrats, but has without fail pissed off the Republican presidents for which he's worked, including both W and Trump. 

He's a foreign policy hawk, and unabashedly convinced that American foreign policy should pursue American interests first.  That got him associated with the Neocons, but he isn't remotely a Neocon - and the real Neocons will tell you so, because they hated him too.

Bolton is the only DC guy I'm aware of that takes a realistic view of the nature of foreign relations and admits it. He sees foreign relations as a war that must be fought because there is no stasis to be achieved. A nation either expands its influence on the world, or it will be controlled by the nations that do. And he believes that the United States is uniquely qualified to influence the world. I have a lot of sympathy for this view, because China and Russia aren't qualified for it and no other nations are even in the race.

Bolton's appeal to me is that he won't conceal his views under happy horseshit like "peaceful coexistence" or "detente" or "a thousand points of light" or "compassionate conservatism." He's a realist. But that is also why he'll never be president.  He scares people.  Especially politicians.  Foreign politicians above all.
He sounds like quite the character.
Well, he ain't dumb, and he ain't wishy-washy, and he doesn't bend over for anybody, so yeah...I guess that makes him a stark contrast in the political sphere since 1989.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 03:38:06 PM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
I honestly don't know much about him, but I do know there's no chance he ends up the nominee. I'd be very surprised if it's anyone other than DeSantis.
Yale-educated, Summa Cum Laude.  Took a student deferment while in college, then enlisted in the National Guard for four years and Army Reserve for two. Completed Yale Law while in the Guard. Has freely admitted since 1995 that he enlisted in the National Guard upon graduation in 1970 because it reduced the odds he'd be sent to Vietnam.  He'd supported the war, but decided that the Johnson and Nixon administrations had so bolloxed it that it was a futile struggle so he did what he could to avoid it.  Unlike George W Bush, Bolton didn't have the protection of a powerful daddy (his dad was a fireman, mom a homemaker), and unlike anyone including Joe Biden (5 deferments before being "medicaled" because he'd had asthma as a child), he cops to avoiding Vietnam.

The guy is not a "statesman," if that word has any meaning anymore.  The Washington establishment fears him because of his integrity and his bluntness.  You can disagree with his principles and convictions, but it cannot be denied by any remotely objective analysis that he has them and has a long history of refusing to compromise them.  He's pissed off not only Democrats, but has without fail pissed off the Republican presidents for which he's worked, including both W and Trump. 

He's a foreign policy hawk, and unabashedly convinced that American foreign policy should pursue American interests first.  That got him associated with the Neocons, but he isn't remotely a Neocon - and the real Neocons will tell you so, because they hated him too.

Bolton is the only DC guy I'm aware of that takes a realistic view of the nature of foreign relations and admits it. He sees foreign relations as a war that must be fought because there is no stasis to be achieved. A nation either expands its influence on the world, or it will be controlled by the nations that do. And he believes that the United States is uniquely qualified to influence the world. I have a lot of sympathy for this view, because China and Russia aren't qualified for it and no other nations are even in the race.

Bolton's appeal to me is that he won't conceal his views under happy horseshit like "peaceful coexistence" or "detente" or "a thousand points of light" or "compassionate conservatism." He's a realist. But that is also why he'll never be president.  He scares people.  Especially politicians.  Foreign politicians above all.
He sounds like quite the character.
Well, he ain't dumb, and he ain't wishy-washy, and he doesn't bend over for anybody, so yeah...I guess that makes him a stark contrast in the political sphere since 1989.
If we're counting him in the non-dumb crowd, that probably means he wouldn't do something like ask his wife's psychic for help with foreign relations decisions, so we can push that date back to 1981.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 04:28:58 PM
Getting a bit of wet snow now, starting to cover the grass. Hope it stops before it starts covering the roads.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 05:05:49 PM
I've only had the game on for a couple of minutes and I'm already sick of the Chiefs.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 05:07:28 PM
I've only had the game on for a couple of minutes and I'm already sick of the Chiefs.
The plus side is that I'm watching the game because the youngest is making dinner.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 07, 2023, 05:31:14 PM
I've only had the game on for a couple of minutes and I'm already sick of the Chiefs.
The plus side is that I'm watching the game because the youngest is making dinner.
Sweet. Maybe she'll become a chef.

I'm at game #2 on the day. We're up 25-5 at the end of the first half.

We lost our first game, 20-30.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 05:42:04 PM
I've only had the game on for a couple of minutes and I'm already sick of the Chiefs.
The plus side is that I'm watching the game because the youngest is making dinner.
Sweet. Maybe she'll become a chef.

I'm at game #2 on the day. We're up 25-5 at the end of the first half.

We lost our first game, 20-30.
Really clamping down on defense this game.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 06:04:36 PM
I've only had the game on for a couple of minutes and I'm already sick of the Chiefs.
I actually stopped in at Tinderbox while the wife was at the home store. Chief's scored in the first 3 minutes? Anyhow, I picked up one attic series from West tampa at New York state tax 23 bucks but want to try.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 06:08:59 PM
I was hoping for a better game. Sheesh!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230107/75e13a00eee5a81b218ef50d1753e906.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 06:19:51 PM
I've only had the game on for a couple of minutes and I'm already sick of the Chiefs.
I actually stopped in at Tinderbox while the wife was at the home store. Chief's scored in the first 3 minutes? Anyhow, I picked up one attic series from West tampa at New York state tax 23 bucks but want to try.
Yikes!
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 07, 2023, 06:19:55 PM
I've only had the game on for a couple of minutes and I'm already sick of the Chiefs.
The plus side is that I'm watching the game because the youngest is making dinner.
Sweet. Maybe she'll become a chef.

I'm at game #2 on the day. We're up 25-5 at the end of the first half.

We lost our first game, 20-30.
Really clamping down on defense this game.
That game ended 46-26. Then later, I found out they have a stupid rule that you can't win by more than 20. So every time we scored, they added points to both teams. How freaking stupid is that?
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 07, 2023, 06:22:22 PM
We're heading an hour away to a friend's place for dinner. See yuz later.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 07:18:27 PM
I've only had the game on for a couple of minutes and I'm already sick of the Chiefs.
The plus side is that I'm watching the game because the youngest is making dinner.
Sweet. Maybe she'll become a chef.

I'm at game #2 on the day. We're up 25-5 at the end of the first half.

We lost our first game, 20-30.
Really clamping down on defense this game.
That game ended 46-26. Then later, I found out they have a stupid rule that you can't win by more than 20. So every time we scored, they added points to both teams. How freaking stupid is that?
I'll be honest, that's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 07:19:56 PM
Am I a sore loser to hate that KC is no 1 seed in AFC?
I hope my boys come out to play tomorrow. It's been a rough couple of weeks in Buffalo
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 07, 2023, 07:20:36 PM
We're heading an hour away to a friend's place for dinner. See yuz later.
Enjoy your dinner. I went out for steak at Texas Roadhouse
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 09:03:50 PM
Am I a sore loser to hate that KC is no 1 seed in AFC?
I hope my boys come out to play tomorrow. It's been a rough couple of weeks in Buffalo
No, cause I hate them being the 1 seed and I don't have a dog in the fight anymore.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 09:14:07 PM
A little something out of Rick's playback.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230108/468596249037fcddbd6cc50a9fd9fab7.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 07, 2023, 09:43:18 PM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
I honestly don't know much about him, but I do know there's no chance he ends up the nominee. I'd be very surprised if it's anyone other than DeSantis.
Yale-educated, Summa Cum Laude.  Took a student deferment while in college, then enlisted in the National Guard for four years and Army Reserve for two. Completed Yale Law while in the Guard. Has freely admitted since 1995 that he enlisted in the National Guard upon graduation in 1970 because it reduced the odds he'd be sent to Vietnam.  He'd supported the war, but decided that the Johnson and Nixon administrations had so bolloxed it that it was a futile struggle so he did what he could to avoid it.  Unlike George W Bush, Bolton didn't have the protection of a powerful daddy (his dad was a fireman, mom a homemaker), and unlike anyone including Joe Biden (5 deferments before being "medicaled" because he'd had asthma as a child), he cops to avoiding Vietnam.

The guy is not a "statesman," if that word has any meaning anymore.  The Washington establishment fears him because of his integrity and his bluntness.  You can disagree with his principles and convictions, but it cannot be denied by any remotely objective analysis that he has them and has a long history of refusing to compromise them.  He's pissed off not only Democrats, but has without fail pissed off the Republican presidents for which he's worked, including both W and Trump. 

He's a foreign policy hawk, and unabashedly convinced that American foreign policy should pursue American interests first.  That got him associated with the Neocons, but he isn't remotely a Neocon - and the real Neocons will tell you so, because they hated him too.

Bolton is the only DC guy I'm aware of that takes a realistic view of the nature of foreign relations and admits it. He sees foreign relations as a war that must be fought because there is no stasis to be achieved. A nation either expands its influence on the world, or it will be controlled by the nations that do. And he believes that the United States is uniquely qualified to influence the world. I have a lot of sympathy for this view, because China and Russia aren't qualified for it and no other nations are even in the race.

Bolton's appeal to me is that he won't conceal his views under happy horseshit like "peaceful coexistence" or "detente" or "a thousand points of light" or "compassionate conservatism." He's a realist. But that is also why he'll never be president.  He scares people.  Especially politicians.  Foreign politicians above all.
He sounds like quite the character.
Well, he ain't dumb, and he ain't wishy-washy, and he doesn't bend over for anybody, so yeah...I guess that makes him a stark contrast in the political sphere since 1989.
If we're counting him in the non-dumb crowd, that probably means he wouldn't do something like ask his wife's psychic for help with foreign relations decisions, so we can push that date back to 1981.
No, that's bullshit, David, and you know it. Nancy did what Nancy did, but that had nuthin' and I mean NUTHIN' to do with Ron. And if you try to paste that shit on, I'm gonna call you on it. You weren't even paying attention in those days.

Ronald Reagan had to answer for what he did, but the astrology thing is bullshit, and you know it, or should.

Don't go there. You're better than that.
Title: Re: 1/7/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 07, 2023, 11:20:29 PM
John Bolton, former Drumpf National Security Advisor, announces (on Good Morning Britain, of all places) that he will run for president in 2024.
John Bolton is a very smart guy, and not remotely the alien monster the media bills him as.  But this will go nowhere. 

Bolton is a blunt instrument - a club wrapped in barbed wire.  He's a power-player who will get down in the dirt, and an administrative machine who knows what kind of scheming, blackmail, and intimidation it takes to manage a bureaucracy successfully.  On an administrative level, he'd be a great president.  But he'll never get the chance because a guy like Bolton makes a lot of enemies and victims, but very few friends.  He is the antithesis to Joe Biden - Bolton is always firing on all cylinders, he's disciplined, stays on message, and he's both more honest and a better liar than Joe.  But Joe Biden is living proof (living, at least, from toes to shoulders) of what being a back-slapping deal-maker with no particular principles will get you. 

So Bolton won't get anywhere near sitting at the big desk.  But he's goddam well-qualified for it.
I honestly don't know much about him, but I do know there's no chance he ends up the nominee. I'd be very surprised if it's anyone other than DeSantis.
Yale-educated, Summa Cum Laude.  Took a student deferment while in college, then enlisted in the National Guard for four years and Army Reserve for two. Completed Yale Law while in the Guard. Has freely admitted since 1995 that he enlisted in the National Guard upon graduation in 1970 because it reduced the odds he'd be sent to Vietnam.  He'd supported the war, but decided that the Johnson and Nixon administrations had so bolloxed it that it was a futile struggle so he did what he could to avoid it.  Unlike George W Bush, Bolton didn't have the protection of a powerful daddy (his dad was a fireman, mom a homemaker), and unlike anyone including Joe Biden (5 deferments before being "medicaled" because he'd had asthma as a child), he cops to avoiding Vietnam.

The guy is not a "statesman," if that word has any meaning anymore.  The Washington establishment fears him because of his integrity and his bluntness.  You can disagree with his principles and convictions, but it cannot be denied by any remotely objective analysis that he has them and has a long history of refusing to compromise them.  He's pissed off not only Democrats, but has without fail pissed off the Republican presidents for which he's worked, including both W and Trump. 

He's a foreign policy hawk, and unabashedly convinced that American foreign policy should pursue American interests first.  That got him associated with the Neocons, but he isn't remotely a Neocon - and the real Neocons will tell you so, because they hated him too.

Bolton is the only DC guy I'm aware of that takes a realistic view of the nature of foreign relations and admits it. He sees foreign relations as a war that must be fought because there is no stasis to be achieved. A nation either expands its influence on the world, or it will be controlled by the nations that do. And he believes that the United States is uniquely qualified to influence the world. I have a lot of sympathy for this view, because China and Russia aren't qualified for it and no other nations are even in the race.

Bolton's appeal to me is that he won't conceal his views under happy horseshit like "peaceful coexistence" or "detente" or "a thousand points of light" or "compassionate conservatism." He's a realist. But that is also why he'll never be president.  He scares people.  Especially politicians.  Foreign politicians above all.
He sounds like quite the character.
Well, he ain't dumb, and he ain't wishy-washy, and he doesn't bend over for anybody, so yeah...I guess that makes him a stark contrast in the political sphere since 1989.
If we're counting him in the non-dumb crowd, that probably means he wouldn't do something like ask his wife's psychic for help with foreign relations decisions, so we can push that date back to 1981.
No, that's bullshit, David, and you know it. Nancy did what Nancy did, but that had nuthin' and I mean NUTHIN' to do with Ron. And if you try to paste that shit on, I'm gonna call you on it. You weren't even paying attention in those days.

Ronald Reagan had to answer for what he did, but the astrology thing is bullshit, and you know it, or should.

Don't go there. You're better than that.
You can call out whatever makes you feel better, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest it did happen. But if you'd like to continue living in a world where you believe it didn't, I can't say anything to talk you out of it.

I swear, if I live to be 100, I'll never understand the Republican obsession with Reagan.