Post by: CigarBanter on September 20, 2018, 12:00:53 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 05:14:27 AM
I emailed BadDad yesterday. I got this:
Hi Dean,
Thank you for the invitation to post onto the cigar banter.
I remember there were two banters, and I've lost my links to both of them.
Would you mind sending me the link...?
I hope your doing ok in Florida ... Florida, right..?
Later Man,
Curt (badpawpa@charter.net)
sucks to get old.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on September 20, 2018, 05:27:26 AM
good morning.At least we know he's still alive to buy his wife all manner of Halloween costume. Morning, Dean.
I emailed BadDad yesterday. I got this:
Hi Dean,
Thank you for the invitation to post onto the cigar banter.
I remember there were two banters, and I've lost my links to both of them.
Would you mind sending me the link...?
I hope your doing ok in Florida ... Florida, right..?
Later Man,
Curt (badpawpa@charter.net)
sucks to get old.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 05:34:25 AM
I think it's the banter that died...good morning.At least we know he's still alive to buy his wife all manner of Halloween costume. Morning, Dean.
I emailed BadDad yesterday. I got this:
Hi Dean,
Thank you for the invitation to post onto the cigar banter.
I remember there were two banters, and I've lost my links to both of them.
Would you mind sending me the link...?
I hope your doing ok in Florida ... Florida, right..?
Later Man,
Curt (badpawpa@charter.net)
sucks to get old.
Good morning, Dean and Dave.
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 06:04:51 AM
I told BD he was missed and we were worried about him
hope he finds his way back.
Oliva O maduro and coffee before I take cat to vet for a booster and nail trim.
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 06:10:21 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 06:24:26 AM
good morning Dave. I thought you were off today.I think that's NJDave that is off, doing his own impression of BadDad and watching the grandkiddies.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on September 20, 2018, 06:28:20 AM
good morning Dave. I thought you were off today.Don't I wish. Going to PA this weekend, so I'll be absent Monday.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 06:34:40 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 06:37:29 AM
Is today officially the last day of summer?Never mind, that's tomorrow.
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 06:42:05 AM
good morning Tony.Nice of you to reach out Dean.
I told BD he was missed and we were worried about him
hope he finds his way back.
Oliva O maduro and coffee before I take cat to vet for a booster and nail trim.
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 06:42:36 AM
Yup.good morning Dave. I thought you were off today.I think that's NJDave that is off, doing his own impression of BadDad and watching the grandkiddies.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 06:44:25 AM
Good morning, Dave. Are the kids already up?Yup.good morning Dave. I thought you were off today.I think that's NJDave that is off, doing his own impression of BadDad and watching the grandkiddies.
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 06:48:58 AM
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 06:49:41 AM
Soon, but parents don't leave until 8:00 or so, so I'm not on duty yet.Good morning, Dave. Are the kids already up?Yup.good morning Dave. I thought you were off today.I think that's NJDave that is off, doing his own impression of BadDad and watching the grandkiddies.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 06:51:53 AM
Oh you'll be shoulder deep in dooty soon enough.Soon, but parents don't leave until 8:00 or so, so I'm not on duty yet.Good morning, Dave. Are the kids already up?Yup.good morning Dave. I thought you were off today.I think that's NJDave that is off, doing his own impression of BadDad and watching the grandkiddies.
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 06:55:14 AM
Today’s Highlight in History:
On Sept. 20, 1962, James Meredith, a black student, was blocked from enrolling at the University of Mississippi by Democratic Gov. Ross R. Barnett. (Meredith was later admitted.)
On this date:
In 1519, Portuguese explorer Ferdinand Magellan and his crew set out from Spain on five ships to find a western passage to the Spice Islands. (Magellan was killed enroute, but one of his ships eventually circled the world.)
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In 1911, the British liner RMS Olympic collided with the Royal Navy cruiser HMS Hawke off the Isle of Wight; although seriously damaged, the Olympic was able to return to Southampton under its own power.
In 1958, Martin Luther King Jr. was seriously wounded during a book signing at a New York City department store when he was stabbed in the chest by Izola Curry. (Curry was later found mentally incompetent; she died at a Queens, New York, nursing home in 2015 at age 98.)
In 1963, President Kennedy proposed a joint U-S-Soviet expedition to the moon.
In 1967, the Cunard liner RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 was christened by Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II in Clydebank, Scotland.
In 1973, in their so-called “battle of the sexes,” tennis star Billie Jean King defeated Bobby Riggs in straight sets, 6-4, 6-3, 6-3, at the Houston Astrodome. Singer-songwriter Jim Croce, 30, died in a plane crash near Natchitoches, Louisiana.
In 1976, Playboy magazine released an interview in which Democratic presidential nominee Jimmy Carter admitted he’d “looked on a lot of women with lust.”
In 1984, a suicide car bomber attacked the U.S. Embassy annex in north Beirut, killing at least 14 people, including two Americans and 12 Lebanese. The family sitcoms “The Cosby Show” and “Who’s the Boss?” premiered on NBC and ABC, respectively.
In 1995, in a move that stunned Wall Street, A-T-and-T Corporation announced it was splitting into three companies.
In 1999, Lawrence Russell Brewer became the second white supremacist to be convicted in the dragging death of James Byrd Jr. in Jasper, Texas. (Brewer was executed on September 21, 2011.) Raisa Gorbachev, wife of the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, died at a German hospital after a battle with leukemia; she was 67.
In 2000, Independent Counsel Robert Ray announced the end of the Whitewater investigation, saying there was insufficient evidence to warrant charges against President Bill Clinton and first lady Hillary Clinton. Former Soviet cosmonaut Gherman Titov died at age 65.
In 2001, during an address to a joint session of Congress, President George W. Bush announced a new Cabinet-level office to fortify homeland security and named Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge its director.
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 06:56:09 AM
Five years ago: Charting a collision course with the White House, the Republican-controlled House approved, 230-189, legislation to avoid a partial government shutdown while also defunding President Barack Obama’s 3-year-old health care law. (The Democratic-led Senate rebuffed the House’s attempts to roll back the health care law; the partial government shutdown began October 1 with the start of the fiscal new year).
One year ago: Hurricane Maria, the strongest hurricane to hit Puerto Rico in more than 80 years, struck the island, wiping out as much as 75 percent of the power distribution lines and causing an island-wide blackout. Rescuers worked furiously at a collapsed school in Mexico City where a girl was believed trapped under debris in the aftermath of a deadly earthquake; it was later determined that no children were still trapped in the debris.
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 06:58:00 AM
Actress Sophia Loren is 84.
Pro Football Hall of Famer Jim Taylor is 83.
Rock musician Chuck Panozzo is 70.
Actor Tony Denison is 69.
Hockey Hall of Famer Guy LaFleur is 67.
Actress Debbi Morgan is 67.
Jazz musician Peter White is 64.
Actress Betsy Brantley is 63.
Actor Gary Cole is 62.
TV news correspondent Deborah Roberts is 58.
Country-rock musician Joseph Shreve (Flynnville Train) is 57.
Rock musician Randy Bradbury (Pennywise) is 54.
Actress Kristen Johnston is 51.
Rock singers Gunnar and Matthew Nelson are 51.
Rock musician Ben Shepherd is 50.
Actress Enuka Okuma is 46.
Actress-model Moon Bloodgood is 43.
Actor Jon Bernthal is 42.
Singer The Dream is 41.
Actor Charlie Weber is 40.
Rock musician Rick Woolstenhulme (WOOL’-sten-hyoolm) (Lifehouse) is 39.
Actress Crystle Stewart is 37.
Rapper Yung Joc is 36.
Actor Aldis Hodge is 32.
Actor Malachi (MAL’-ah-ky) Kirby is 29.
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 06:59:08 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 07:05:50 AM
sometimes I'm a nice guy.good morning Tony.Nice of you to reach out Dean.
I told BD he was missed and we were worried about him
hope he finds his way back.
Oliva O maduro and coffee before I take cat to vet for a booster and nail trim.
good morning.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 07:43:01 AM
Thought for Today: “Ninety-nine percent of the failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses.” - George Washington Carver, American botanist (1864-1943).Yeah, but so do 1% of successes.
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 08:10:12 AM
CNSThought for Today: “Ninety-nine percent of the failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses.” - George Washington Carver, American botanist (1864-1943).Yeah, but so do 1% of successes.
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 08:11:35 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 08:18:44 AM
Morning Daves, Dean, and Mr. Mayor. Would be nice to hear from LostLinkBD again. As I recall he has some interesting neighbor ladies as well.Great morning to you, Mark. I'm looking forward to hearing from ANYONE at this point. Where's Marker or Dogdays??
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 08:34:32 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 08:35:56 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 08:45:39 AM
showed up at vet at 7:45, doesn't open for shots until 9. I'm back home. try again tomorrow. fuck it.No appointment necessary?
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 08:49:10 AM
nope, walk in only. surgeries by appointment only at 7:30, everything else 9-5.showed up at vet at 7:45, doesn't open for shots until 9. I'm back home. try again tomorrow. fuck it.No appointment necessary?
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 09:04:04 AM
Hell, we don't need to go back that far for MIA's. Fish, Rick, CB, Chip, .... Even Sam stays on the bubble, the slacker.Morning Daves, Dean, and Mr. Mayor. Would be nice to hear from LostLinkBD again. As I recall he has some interesting neighbor ladies as well.Great morning to you, Mark. I'm looking forward to hearing from ANYONE at this point. Where's Marker or Dogdays??
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 09:13:56 AM
Very true. I'm changing the name to CigarSlackers. Might even get rid of the cigar part.Hell, we don't need to go back that far for MIA's. Fish, Rick, CB, Chip, .... Even Sam stays on the bubble, the slacker.Morning Daves, Dean, and Mr. Mayor. Would be nice to hear from LostLinkBD again. As I recall he has some interesting neighbor ladies as well.Great morning to you, Mark. I'm looking forward to hearing from ANYONE at this point. Where's Marker or Dogdays??
Post by: LuvTooGolf on September 20, 2018, 09:41:12 AM
What the hell's a cigar?Very true. I'm changing the name to CigarSlackers. Might even get rid of the cigar part.Hell, we don't need to go back that far for MIA's. Fish, Rick, CB, Chip, .... Even Sam stays on the bubble, the slacker.Morning Daves, Dean, and Mr. Mayor. Would be nice to hear from LostLinkBD again. As I recall he has some interesting neighbor ladies as well.Great morning to you, Mark. I'm looking forward to hearing from ANYONE at this point. Where's Marker or Dogdays??
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 09:48:15 AM
Exactly.What the hell's a cigar?Very true. I'm changing the name to CigarSlackers. Might even get rid of the cigar part.Hell, we don't need to go back that far for MIA's. Fish, Rick, CB, Chip, .... Even Sam stays on the bubble, the slacker.Morning Daves, Dean, and Mr. Mayor. Would be nice to hear from LostLinkBD again. As I recall he has some interesting neighbor ladies as well.Great morning to you, Mark. I'm looking forward to hearing from ANYONE at this point. Where's Marker or Dogdays??
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 09:59:53 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 10:01:28 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 10:02:00 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
hey, look at that, CIGARS.I like it!
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 10:10:29 AM
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 10:11:47 AM
Well, most of the important people are still here.I think it's the banter that died...good morning.At least we know he's still alive to buy his wife all manner of Halloween costume. Morning, Dean.
I emailed BadDad yesterday. I got this:
Hi Dean,
Thank you for the invitation to post onto the cigar banter.
I remember there were two banters, and I've lost my links to both of them.
Would you mind sending me the link...?
I hope your doing ok in Florida ... Florida, right..?
Later Man,
Curt (badpawpa@charter.net)
sucks to get old.
Good morning, Dean and Dave.
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 10:20:16 AM
Yeah, we should have a forum to talk about what cigars are good and where to find deals on them.hey, look at that, CIGARS.I like it!
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 10:23:13 AM
Morning, muchachos.Yes it is. How goes it, Bret?
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 10:25:08 AM
Same schitt, different day. Not enough sleep last night, too much work to do today, not enough money, too many bills. You know the drill.Morning, muchachos.Yes it is. How goes it, Bret?
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 10:50:24 AM
Sounds way too familiar. Came in extra early today so that I can split early and go to parents' night.Same schitt, different day. Not enough sleep last night, too much work to do today, not enough money, too many bills. You know the drill.Morning, muchachos.Yes it is. How goes it, Bret?
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 10:54:26 AM
The cosmos is not kind to the rock-n-roll survivors.
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 11:01:08 AM
I hope it goes well.Sounds way too familiar. Came in extra early today so that I can split early and go to parents' night.Same schitt, different day. Not enough sleep last night, too much work to do today, not enough money, too many bills. You know the drill.Morning, muchachos.Yes it is. How goes it, Bret?
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Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 11:03:01 AM
Teach me.I hope it goes well.Sounds way too familiar. Came in extra early today so that I can split early and go to parents' night.Same schitt, different day. Not enough sleep last night, too much work to do today, not enough money, too many bills. You know the drill.Morning, muchachos.Yes it is. How goes it, Bret?
(http://www.sean-christopher.com/seanchristopher/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/hotforteacher.png)
Post by: LuvTooGolf on September 20, 2018, 11:04:25 AM
My youngest got a teacher new to the school this year. I already told the wife I called that parent night.I hope it goes well.Sounds way too familiar. Came in extra early today so that I can split early and go to parents' night.Same schitt, different day. Not enough sleep last night, too much work to do today, not enough money, too many bills. You know the drill.Morning, muchachos.Yes it is. How goes it, Bret?
(http://www.sean-christopher.com/seanchristopher/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/hotforteacher.png)
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 11:40:13 AM
Dickey Betts - former guitarist of the Allman Brothers Band - is in critical condition after cracking his skull in a fall at his Sarasota home.Hope he'll be back to ramblin soon.
The cosmos is not kind to the rock-n-roll survivors.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 11:41:57 AM
I think it's mostly the guy teachers that have the long flowing hair at my daughter's school.I hope it goes well.Sounds way too familiar. Came in extra early today so that I can split early and go to parents' night.Same schitt, different day. Not enough sleep last night, too much work to do today, not enough money, too many bills. You know the drill.Morning, muchachos.Yes it is. How goes it, Bret?
(http://www.sean-christopher.com/seanchristopher/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/hotforteacher.png)
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 11:44:55 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on September 20, 2018, 12:03:21 PM
What I wouldn't give to have a webcam on cigarbanter.com, checking on GrampaDave's progress.I'm sure it would be quite a show!
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
The guy really is brilliant. Like most brilliant people, he's a pain-in-the-ass to deal with. But he composed "Jessica" which is an absolutely stunning marvel of Modal composing. It's an exultant and transcendent work that creates a simple soundscape that conceals severe complexities that he answered almost offhandedly.Dickey Betts - former guitarist of the Allman Brothers Band - is in critical condition after cracking his skull in a fall at his Sarasota home.Hope he'll be back to ramblin soon.
The cosmos is not kind to the rock-n-roll survivors.
It's in a class with the Eagles' "Hotel California" - none of the parts taken individually are difficult to learn or play. But it's a mind-fuck to execute on stage. Even Joe Walsh cautions that "Hotel" requires intense concentration. If your mind wanders for a portion of a second, you're toast. That's how "Jessica" is, too. But when you pull it off, it takes you into a wholly other mental state.
Here ended the lesson. Sorry.
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 12:07:16 PM
(http://grouchymuffin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/hop-on-pop.jpg)What I wouldn't give to have a webcam on cigarbanter.com, checking on GrampaDave's progress.I'm sure it would be quite a show!
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 12:18:51 PM
I'm not a musician but I can see that.The guy really is brilliant. Like most brilliant people, he's a pain-in-the-ass to deal with. But he composed "Jessica" which is an absolutely stunning marvel of Modal composing. It's an exultant and transcendent work that creates a simple soundscape that conceals severe complexities that he answered almost offhandedly.Dickey Betts - former guitarist of the Allman Brothers Band - is in critical condition after cracking his skull in a fall at his Sarasota home.Hope he'll be back to ramblin soon.
The cosmos is not kind to the rock-n-roll survivors.
It's in a class with the Eagles' "Hotel California" - none of the parts taken individually are difficult to learn or play. But it's a mind-fuck to execute on stage. Even Joe Walsh cautions that "Hotel" requires intense concentration. If your mind wanders for a portion of a second, you're toast. That's how "Jessica" is, too. But when you pull it off, it takes you into a wholly other mental state.
Here ended the lesson. Sorry.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 12:19:43 PM
Are we back to talking about Dean?(http://grouchymuffin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/hop-on-pop.jpg)What I wouldn't give to have a webcam on cigarbanter.com, checking on GrampaDave's progress.I'm sure it would be quite a show!
Post by: LuvTooGolf on September 20, 2018, 12:26:52 PM
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/yZjcNgKGCYfJu/giphy.gif)Are we back to talking about Dean?(http://grouchymuffin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/hop-on-pop.jpg)What I wouldn't give to have a webcam on cigarbanter.com, checking on GrampaDave's progress.I'm sure it would be quite a show!
Post by: flip from jersey on September 20, 2018, 12:30:01 PM
important stuff.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 12:34:16 PM
good afternoon guys, had a 10am meeting that ran long, just getting back to my desk &Good afternoon, Flip.
important stuff.
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 01:05:06 PM
Important stuff like what's for lunch?good afternoon guys, had a 10am meeting that ran long, just getting back to my desk &Good afternoon, Flip.
important stuff.
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 01:14:36 PM
It's a Freudian manifestation of your pud.What the hell's a cigar?Very true. I'm changing the name to CigarSlackers. Might even get rid of the cigar part.Hell, we don't need to go back that far for MIA's. Fish, Rick, CB, Chip, .... Even Sam stays on the bubble, the slacker.Morning Daves, Dean, and Mr. Mayor. Would be nice to hear from LostLinkBD again. As I recall he has some interesting neighbor ladies as well.Great morning to you, Mark. I'm looking forward to hearing from ANYONE at this point. Where's Marker or Dogdays??
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 01:17:16 PM
https://halfwheel.com/island-club-shipsThought it was a cousin to CAO Margaritaville and Island Life at first glance...
Post by: flip from jersey on September 20, 2018, 01:17:19 PM
some leftovers from a salumeria board/plate I got at Annabella's house of Mozzerella,Important stuff like what's for lunch?good afternoon guys, had a 10am meeting that ran long, just getting back to my desk &Good afternoon, Flip.
important stuff.
not far from Tony's house On paterson plank road...
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 01:19:08 PM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 01:22:10 PM
Pass it every day.some leftovers from a salumeria board/plate I got at Annabella's house of Mozzerella,Important stuff like what's for lunch?good afternoon guys, had a 10am meeting that ran long, just getting back to my desk &Good afternoon, Flip.
important stuff.
not far from Tony's house On paterson plank road...
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 01:23:40 PM
Speaking of Connies, had an Aganorsa Leaf Connie this morning. Whole lot a pepper and body! Possibly the boldest Connie I've had.That's a bold statement. I tend to like pepper. Was it off-putting?
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 01:24:27 PM
What I wouldn't give to have a webcam on cigarbanter.com, checking on GrampaDave's progress.I'm doing just Fukkin' fine, thank you very much. This ain't my first rodeo.
They listen a hell of a lot better when their parents aren't around. Their biggest punishment from their mother is having to listen to her drone on and on. I prefer to be a man of few words.
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 01:25:02 PM
No, very refined, flavorful and enjoyable.Speaking of Connies, had an Aganorsa Leaf Connie this morning. Whole lot a pepper and body! Possibly the boldest Connie I've had.That's a bold statement. I tend to like pepper. Was it off-putting?
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 01:28:05 PM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on September 20, 2018, 01:39:28 PM
Must be why I enjoy a corona, and my wife doesn't like cigars at all!It's a Freudian manifestation of your pud.What the hell's a cigar?Very true. I'm changing the name to CigarSlackers. Might even get rid of the cigar part.Hell, we don't need to go back that far for MIA's. Fish, Rick, CB, Chip, .... Even Sam stays on the bubble, the slacker.Morning Daves, Dean, and Mr. Mayor. Would be nice to hear from LostLinkBD again. As I recall he has some interesting neighbor ladies as well.Great morning to you, Mark. I'm looking forward to hearing from ANYONE at this point. Where's Marker or Dogdays??
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 01:40:30 PM
Here's what some other folks say about it...No, very refined, flavorful and enjoyable.Speaking of Connies, had an Aganorsa Leaf Connie this morning. Whole lot a pepper and body! Possibly the boldest Connie I've had.That's a bold statement. I tend to like pepper. Was it off-putting?
https://halfwheel.com/aganorsa-leaf-tabsa-connecticut-toro
https://cigar-coop.com/2016/11/cigar-review-aganorsa-leaf-tabsa-connecticut-toro-by-casa-fernandez.html
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 01:46:19 PM
Good Day RevRaz.Howdy, Grampa.
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 01:46:52 PM
It's good to be aware of yourself.Must be why I enjoy a corona, and my wife doesn't like cigars at all!It's a Freudian manifestation of your pud.What the hell's a cigar?Very true. I'm changing the name to CigarSlackers. Might even get rid of the cigar part.Hell, we don't need to go back that far for MIA's. Fish, Rick, CB, Chip, .... Even Sam stays on the bubble, the slacker.Morning Daves, Dean, and Mr. Mayor. Would be nice to hear from LostLinkBD again. As I recall he has some interesting neighbor ladies as well.Great morning to you, Mark. I'm looking forward to hearing from ANYONE at this point. Where's Marker or Dogdays??
I prefer to maintain my delusions.
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 02:03:26 PM
"The retrohale is still home to the majority of the flavors, now a deep oak, lots of olive oil, Himalayan salt, burnt butter and some daffodils." Really? This dude's just makin' schitt up now.Here's what some other folks say about it...No, very refined, flavorful and enjoyable.Speaking of Connies, had an Aganorsa Leaf Connie this morning. Whole lot a pepper and body! Possibly the boldest Connie I've had.That's a bold statement. I tend to like pepper. Was it off-putting?
https://halfwheel.com/aganorsa-leaf-tabsa-connecticut-toro
https://cigar-coop.com/2016/11/cigar-review-aganorsa-leaf-tabsa-connecticut-toro-by-casa-fernandez.html
Post by: LuvTooGolf on September 20, 2018, 02:08:01 PM
I admire his dedication, eating daffodils, just so he'll know their flavor. That's commitment."The retrohale is still home to the majority of the flavors, now a deep oak, lots of olive oil, Himalayan salt, burnt butter and some daffodils." Really? This dude's just makin' schitt up now.Here's what some other folks say about it...No, very refined, flavorful and enjoyable.Speaking of Connies, had an Aganorsa Leaf Connie this morning. Whole lot a pepper and body! Possibly the boldest Connie I've had.That's a bold statement. I tend to like pepper. Was it off-putting?
https://halfwheel.com/aganorsa-leaf-tabsa-connecticut-toro
https://cigar-coop.com/2016/11/cigar-review-aganorsa-leaf-tabsa-connecticut-toro-by-casa-fernandez.html
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 02:12:28 PM
Daffodils?? ROTFLMMFAO. Daffodils."The retrohale is still home to the majority of the flavors, now a deep oak, lots of olive oil, Himalayan salt, burnt butter and some daffodils." Really? This dude's just makin' schitt up now.Here's what some other folks say about it...No, very refined, flavorful and enjoyable.Speaking of Connies, had an Aganorsa Leaf Connie this morning. Whole lot a pepper and body! Possibly the boldest Connie I've had.That's a bold statement. I tend to like pepper. Was it off-putting?
https://halfwheel.com/aganorsa-leaf-tabsa-connecticut-toro
https://cigar-coop.com/2016/11/cigar-review-aganorsa-leaf-tabsa-connecticut-toro-by-casa-fernandez.html
Post by: LuvTooGolf on September 20, 2018, 02:21:12 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 02:29:58 PM
Hazzuh!Calling it early?
Post by: Travellin Dave on September 20, 2018, 02:30:34 PM
Going out for a nice daffodil salad maybe?Hazzuh!Calling it early?
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 02:46:02 PM
That would be flip's department.Going out for a nice daffodil salad maybe?Hazzuh!Calling it early?
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 02:50:03 PM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on September 20, 2018, 03:51:36 PM
Travelin Man seems a touch sensitive today.What I wouldn't give to have a webcam on cigarbanter.com, checking on GrampaDave's progress.I'm doing just Fukkin' fine, thank you very much. This ain't my first rodeo.
They listen a hell of a lot better when their parents aren't around. Their biggest punishment from their mother is having to listen to her drone on and on. I prefer to be a man of few words.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on September 20, 2018, 03:52:29 PM
This is a lot of rain for us this time of year.Any rain is a lot there this time of year unless you have a tropical storm passing over.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on September 20, 2018, 03:58:17 PM
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on September 20, 2018, 03:58:53 PM
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 04:07:07 PM
Also, I think he's implying that the grandkids are touch-sensitive.Travelin Man seems a touch sensitive today.What I wouldn't give to have a webcam on cigarbanter.com, checking on GrampaDave's progress.I'm doing just Fukkin' fine, thank you very much. This ain't my first rodeo.
They listen a hell of a lot better when their parents aren't around. Their biggest punishment from their mother is having to listen to her drone on and on. I prefer to be a man of few words.
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 04:09:34 PM
Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on September 20, 2018, 04:11:11 PM
Also, I think he's implying that the grandkids are touch-sensitive.Travelin Man seems a touch sensitive today.What I wouldn't give to have a webcam on cigarbanter.com, checking on GrampaDave's progress.I'm doing just Fukkin' fine, thank you very much. This ain't my first rodeo.
They listen a hell of a lot better when their parents aren't around. Their biggest punishment from their mother is having to listen to her drone on and on. I prefer to be a man of few words.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on September 20, 2018, 04:16:26 PM
Don’t you worry😀Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 04:19:08 PM
Definitely could be. Which model Harley?Don’t you worry😀Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
Post by: flip from jersey on September 20, 2018, 04:20:42 PM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on September 20, 2018, 04:23:06 PM
Don’t know that yet but it is a big oneDefinitely could be. Which model Harley?Don’t you worry😀Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 04:40:54 PM
That is a large and abrupt change in elevation, but if the bike were going that speed and encountered it straight on, I'd say unlikely without mitigating factors like wet pavement or interfering traffic. At slower speed or at an angle, then yes, could cause a crash.Don’t know that yet but it is a big oneDefinitely could be. Which model Harley?Don’t you worry😀Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 04:42:20 PM
TWSSDon’t know that yet but it is a big oneDefinitely could be. Which model Harley?Don’t you worry😀Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 04:42:26 PM
Okay, here's the deal. For the past thirty years or so, Harley has had essentially four lines of bikes, each of which had a different frame and suspension. For the 2018 model year, they've reduced to three. The four were, in order of overall size and weight: Sportster, Dyna, Softail, and Electra-Glide (sometimes called the touring bikes). The Dyna line has now been eliminated.Don’t know that yet but it is a big oneDefinitely could be. Which model Harley?Don’t you worry😀Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
I wouldn't expect a Sportster, Dyna, or Softail to mind a 1"-1.5" bump, assuming the rider is semi-competent. But the big Touring bikes - the Electra-Glide line which includes the Road King, Street Glide, Road Glide, and Ultras - have a unique design feature: the forks are mounted behind the head tube of the frame rather than in front. This improves the mechanical advantage to the rider, especially at high speed on open road, but it can make steering a little squirelly at low speeds or when decelerating, especially if it the bike hasn't been maintained well, tires are worn or aren't properly inflated, roads are rough, wet, or oily, or if the rider isn't terribly experienced with these bikes.
So if he was going onto the bridge, riding a Harley touring bike, not thoroughly experienced on the type, and hit a 1-1.5" bump, he could find himself in a situation that spooked him, overcompensate, and lose control of the bike. If the road was wet or there was some gravel on it, multiply by two. It would definitely be something I'd investigate.
That help?
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 04:45:19 PM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on September 20, 2018, 04:50:29 PM
Thanks, there is a possible factor being pine straw on the pavement according to the police report.That is a large and abrupt change in elevation, but if the bike were going that speed and encountered it straight on, I'd say unlikely without mitigating factors like wet pavement or interfering traffic. At slower speed or at an angle, then yes, could cause a crash.Don’t know that yet but it is a big oneDefinitely could be. Which model Harley?Don’t you worry😀Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
Also there is a long curve in the road just before the bridge . Roadway is asphalt and bridge is concrete. The picture shows the curve and you can see where the bridge joins the pavement which is where he lost control. Daytime and dry.
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on September 20, 2018, 05:20:04 PM
Oh, and was there a passenger on the bike? Because that could be a major influence as well.No passenger and that info is all very helpful. My job is to find every conceivable problem with the roadway but it helps to have some idea of how those factors might weigh in and I don’t know doodle-poo about motorcycles.
Thanks!
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 05:25:39 PM
And I know doodle-poo about roadway design, but there shouldn't be that large of an inconsistency without some warning signs or reduced speed, especially at the end of a curve leading onto a bridge. That is a gradual curve, but a rider's concentration increases as one enters any curve and decreases after leaving it. A big bump at that bridge immediately after the curve surely caught him off guard.Oh, and was there a passenger on the bike? Because that could be a major influence as well.No passenger and that info is all very helpful. My job is to find every conceivable problem with the roadway but it helps to have some idea of how those factors might weigh in and I don’t know doodle-poo about motorcycles.
Thanks!
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 05:26:08 PM
That curve shouldn't really factor. Lots of room to have straightened the bike by then.Thanks, there is a possible factor being pine straw on the pavement according to the police report.That is a large and abrupt change in elevation, but if the bike were going that speed and encountered it straight on, I'd say unlikely without mitigating factors like wet pavement or interfering traffic. At slower speed or at an angle, then yes, could cause a crash.Don’t know that yet but it is a big oneDefinitely could be. Which model Harley?Don’t you worry😀Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
Also there is a long curve in the road just before the bridge . Roadway is asphalt and bridge is concrete. The picture shows the curve and you can see where the bridge joins the pavement which is where he lost control. Daytime and dry.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 05:30:04 PM
Hahaha. That's hilarious.What I wouldn't give to have a webcam on cigarbanter.com, checking on GrampaDave's progress.I'm doing just Fukkin' fine, thank you very much. This ain't my first rodeo.
They listen a hell of a lot better when their parents aren't around. Their biggest punishment from their mother is having to listen to her drone on and on. I prefer to be a man of few words.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
Hahaha. I wish I had such a refined palate."The retrohale is still home to the majority of the flavors, now a deep oak, lots of olive oil, Himalayan salt, burnt butter and some daffodils." Really? This dude's just makin' schitt up now.Here's what some other folks say about it...No, very refined, flavorful and enjoyable.Speaking of Connies, had an Aganorsa Leaf Connie this morning. Whole lot a pepper and body! Possibly the boldest Connie I've had.That's a bold statement. I tend to like pepper. Was it off-putting?
https://halfwheel.com/aganorsa-leaf-tabsa-connecticut-toro
https://cigar-coop.com/2016/11/cigar-review-aganorsa-leaf-tabsa-connecticut-toro-by-casa-fernandez.html
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 05:36:07 PM
Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.Look at you, doing some consulting on the side. Why am I getting images of My Cousin Vinny?
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
Don’t you worryProductive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
At first I read that as 1-1.5 feet and thought, HELL YEAH, THAT WOULD MAKE YOU LOSE CONTROL.
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 05:39:56 PM
The other thing to note is that the bump may be more significant than the specs indicate. Out here on Interstate 5 crossing the Nisqually River, there is a joint like you describe, but it's aggravated by depressions caused by millions of semi-truck wheels hitting that joint. So if you measure the difference at the joint it just looks like a 1" difference, but back up to where the wheel patch of the front tire of a semi is when the front of the tire hits the joint, and you'll find a deeper depression that will play havoc with a biker. Then consider that after the bike's front wheel hits the depression and the joint and spooks the rider, the back wheel hits the depressions and the joint and bounces his weight up off the seat, and now you've got a sphincter check going on. Throw some straw on the road, and the change of surface and you've got things starting to pile up negatively.And I know doodle-poo about roadway design, but there shouldn't be that large of an inconsistency without some warning signs or reduced speed, especially at the end of a curve leading onto a bridge. That is a gradual curve, but a rider's concentration increases as one enters any curve and decreases after leaving it. A big bump at that bridge immediately after the curve surely caught him off guard.Oh, and was there a passenger on the bike? Because that could be a major influence as well.No passenger and that info is all very helpful. My job is to find every conceivable problem with the roadway but it helps to have some idea of how those factors might weigh in and I don’t know doodle-poo about motorcycles.
Thanks!
I'm a trained rider with a lot of experience on street and dirt bikes, so I just habitually prepare for ugliness going on to bridges - keep it straight, contract my leg muscles, prepare for the bumps. But if the rider isn't trained or is new to the bike, real easy to see how he could wind up chewing on concrete.
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 05:44:47 PM
What he said.The other thing to note is that the bump may be more significant than the specs indicate. Out here on Interstate 5 crossing the Nisqually River, there is a joint like you describe, but it's aggravated by depressions caused by millions of semi-truck wheels hitting that joint. So if you measure the difference at the joint it just looks like a 1" difference, but back up to where the wheel patch of the front tire of a semi is when the front of the tire hits the joint, and you'll find a deeper depression that will play havoc with a biker. Then consider that after the bike's front wheel hits the depression and the joint and spooks the rider, the back wheel hits the depressions and the joint and bounces his weight up off the seat, and now you've got a sphincter check going on. Throw some straw on the road, and the change of surface and you've got things starting to pile up negatively.And I know doodle-poo about roadway design, but there shouldn't be that large of an inconsistency without some warning signs or reduced speed, especially at the end of a curve leading onto a bridge. That is a gradual curve, but a rider's concentration increases as one enters any curve and decreases after leaving it. A big bump at that bridge immediately after the curve surely caught him off guard.Oh, and was there a passenger on the bike? Because that could be a major influence as well.No passenger and that info is all very helpful. My job is to find every conceivable problem with the roadway but it helps to have some idea of how those factors might weigh in and I don’t know doodle-poo about motorcycles.
Thanks!
I'm a trained rider with a lot of experience on street and dirt bikes, so I just habitually prepare for ugliness going on to bridges - keep it straight, contract my leg muscles, prepare for the bumps. But if the rider isn't trained or is new to the bike, real easy to see how he could wind up chewing on concrete.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 05:47:50 PM
Post by: South Carolina Redfish on September 20, 2018, 06:08:26 PM
All I know is what the lawyer told me but I will measure everything when I go out there next week.What he said.The other thing to note is that the bump may be more significant than the specs indicate. Out here on Interstate 5 crossing the Nisqually River, there is a joint like you describe, but it's aggravated by depressions caused by millions of semi-truck wheels hitting that joint. So if you measure the difference at the joint it just looks like a 1" difference, but back up to where the wheel patch of the front tire of a semi is when the front of the tire hits the joint, and you'll find a deeper depression that will play havoc with a biker. Then consider that after the bike's front wheel hits the depression and the joint and spooks the rider, the back wheel hits the depressions and the joint and bounces his weight up off the seat, and now you've got a sphincter check going on. Throw some straw on the road, and the change of surface and you've got things starting to pile up negatively.And I know doodle-poo about roadway design, but there shouldn't be that large of an inconsistency without some warning signs or reduced speed, especially at the end of a curve leading onto a bridge. That is a gradual curve, but a rider's concentration increases as one enters any curve and decreases after leaving it. A big bump at that bridge immediately after the curve surely caught him off guard.Oh, and was there a passenger on the bike? Because that could be a major influence as well.No passenger and that info is all very helpful. My job is to find every conceivable problem with the roadway but it helps to have some idea of how those factors might weigh in and I don’t know doodle-poo about motorcycles.
Thanks!
I'm a trained rider with a lot of experience on street and dirt bikes, so I just habitually prepare for ugliness going on to bridges - keep it straight, contract my leg muscles, prepare for the bumps. But if the rider isn't trained or is new to the bike, real easy to see how he could wind up chewing on concrete.
When I am done they will decide if it warrants the cost of moving forward.
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 06:16:57 PM
I take this back. I went into maps and zoomed in and out myself and there isn't necessarily ample room to get the bike straightened out after the curve. So the curve may factor in as well.That curve shouldn't really factor. Lots of room to have straightened the bike by then.Thanks, there is a possible factor being pine straw on the pavement according to the police report.That is a large and abrupt change in elevation, but if the bike were going that speed and encountered it straight on, I'd say unlikely without mitigating factors like wet pavement or interfering traffic. At slower speed or at an angle, then yes, could cause a crash.Don’t know that yet but it is a big oneDefinitely could be. Which model Harley?Don’t you worry😀Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
Also there is a long curve in the road just before the bridge . Roadway is asphalt and bridge is concrete. The picture shows the curve and you can see where the bridge joins the pavement which is where he lost control. Daytime and dry.
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 08:40:50 PM
from what I see, it is apparent that the approach pavement has settled at the bridge approach. you can noticably see 'rubber' n the driving lane coming onto the bridge. the curve of the road seems slight to bother a driver at 55/60 mph. check the states spec book for bridge deck approaches and last state bridge inspection report and maintenance report. the transition from road surface to bridge deck should be a smooth one. spec book should be on state website, inspection reports you'll have to ask for from the state or govt body.I take this back. I went into maps and zoomed in and out myself and there isn't necessarily ample room to get the bike straightened out after the curve. So the curve may factor in as well.That curve shouldn't really factor. Lots of room to have straightened the bike by then.Thanks, there is a possible factor being pine straw on the pavement according to the police report.That is a large and abrupt change in elevation, but if the bike were going that speed and encountered it straight on, I'd say unlikely without mitigating factors like wet pavement or interfering traffic. At slower speed or at an angle, then yes, could cause a crash.Don’t know that yet but it is a big oneDefinitely could be. Which model Harley?Don’t you worry😀Productive day here, neighbor friend brought his mega hot 30 year old wife down for a visit. He and I been drinking while my eyes targeted her assets like a laser beam.You're a retired man now. Be careful not to strain yourself.
Lawyer called me and offered me some nice whiskey money to go look at a crash scene for him next week.
You and been can help me, it is a damn motorcycle wreck. Harley traveling about 55-60 and at a bridge there is a 1-1.5” uneven vertical joint where the bridge joins the pavement. Road is lower than the bridge. Would that bump be a significant enough obstacle to cause the bike to lose control? There are other issues but that is the big one.
Also there is a long curve in the road just before the bridge . Roadway is asphalt and bridge is concrete. The picture shows the curve and you can see where the bridge joins the pavement which is where he lost control. Daytime and dry.
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 08:46:01 PM
Bridge approach settlement can be caused by a number of factors including: 1.) Seasonal temperature changes causing horizontal movements of abutments; 2.) Loss of backfill material by erosion; 3.) Poor construction practices (e.g., poor joint and drainage system construction, poor compaction of backfill materials, etc.); 4.) Settlement of the foundation soils; 5.) High traffic loads; and 6.) Incompatibility in the vertical system stiffness. The two primary causes reported in the literature are lateral movement of the bridge and settlement of site soils.
Post by: razgueado on September 20, 2018, 08:56:15 PM
Bridge owners have long recognized that the approach pavement at bridges is prone to exhibiting both settlement and cracking, which manifest as the “bump at the end of the bridge.” This deterioration requires considerable on-going maintenance expenditures, added risk to maintenance workers, increased distraction to drivers, reduced steering control, increased damage to vehicles, a negative public perception of the highway system, and a shortened useful bridge life. This problem has recently begun to receive significant national attention, as bridge owners have increased the priority of dealing with this recurring problem. No single factor, in and of itself (individually), leads to significant problems. Rather, it is an interaction between multiple factors that typically leads to problematic conditions. As such, solutions to the problem require interdisciplinary thinking and implementation. The bridge-abutment interface is a highly-complex region and an effective “bump at the end of the bridge” solution must address the structural, geotechnical, hydraulic, and construction engineering disciplines. Various design alternatives, construction practices, and maintenance methods exist to minimize bridge approach settlement, but each has its own drawbacks, such as cost, limited effectiveness, or inconvenience to the public. The objective of this work is to assist the Ohio Department of Transportation in the development of pre-construction, construction, and post-construction strategies that will help eliminate or minimize the “bump at the end of the bridge.” Implementation of the details and procedures described herein will provide a tangible benefit to both the Ohio Department of Transportation and the traveling public, in the form of smoother bridge transitions, reduced maintenance costs, and a safer driving environment.And when Dean talks about stiffness...
Bridge approach settlement can be caused by a number of factors including: 1.) Seasonal temperature changes causing horizontal movements of abutments; 2.) Loss of backfill material by erosion; 3.) Poor construction practices (e.g., poor joint and drainage system construction, poor compaction of backfill materials, etc.); 4.) Settlement of the foundation soils; 5.) High traffic loads; and 6.) Incompatibility in the vertical system stiffness. The two primary causes reported in the literature are lateral movement of the bridge and settlement of site soils.
;-)
Nice commentary. I was hoping you'd chip in.
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 08:56:58 PM
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 08:59:54 PM
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 09:03:06 PM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on September 20, 2018, 09:09:22 PM
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 09:14:32 PM
Damn, Dean. I just came back from parents night and I still feel like I'm in school. There isn't a quiz in the morning, is there?I hope not.
Post by: Threebean on September 20, 2018, 09:40:12 PM
But we may be hearing about poor joints, drainage system problems, and compaction of backfill again.Damn, Dean. I just came back from parents night and I still feel like I'm in school. There isn't a quiz in the morning, is there?I hope not.
Post by: FloridaDean on September 20, 2018, 09:42:43 PM
poor joints, drainage problems, we talking bridges or getting old?But we may be hearing about poor joints, drainage system problems, and compaction of backfill again.Damn, Dean. I just came back from parents night and I still feel like I'm in school. There isn't a quiz in the morning, is there?I hope not.
Post by: Bad Dad on September 20, 2018, 10:26:16 PM
good morning.Hello everyone ....! Thanks for inviting me back to the banter, and to Dean for finding me .... :)
I emailed BadDad yesterday. I got this:
Hi Dean,
Thank you for the invitation to post onto the cigar banter.
I remember there were two banters, and I've lost my links to both of them.
Would you mind sending me the link...?
I hope your doing ok in Florida ... Florida, right..?
Later Man,
Curt (badpawpa@charter.net)
sucks to get old.
Post by: Bad Dad on September 20, 2018, 10:35:26 PM
Hi Dave(s) .... Yelp, I'm still alive and living the good life (air conditioning, tv, and popcorn). :)good morning.At least we know he's still alive to buy his wife all manner of Halloween costume. Morning, Dean.
I emailed BadDad yesterday. I got this:
Hi Dean,
Thank you for the invitation to post onto the cigar banter.
I remember there were two banters, and I've lost my links to both of them.
Would you mind sending me the link...?
I hope your doing ok in Florida ... Florida, right..?
Later Man,
Curt (badpawpa@charter.net)
sucks to get old.
Post by: Bad Dad on September 20, 2018, 10:41:07 PM
The grandkids are in school now. First grade and Fourth grade. So it's, pick them up after school a few times a week, and watch them every other Saturday ... So it's getting easier ...Yup.good morning Dave. I thought you were off today.I think that's NJDave that is off, doing his own impression of BadDad and watching the grandkiddies.
Post by: Bad Dad on September 20, 2018, 10:44:18 PM
Diesel sideshow sampler on the Sis is kinda fun (and pretty tasty).Diesel Unholy Cocktail is on my top 5 list ...!
Post by: Bad Dad on September 20, 2018, 10:56:40 PM
Remember when you had to get a blood test to get married ...? I guess that was to get you used to the pain that was coming later...?showed up at vet at 7:45, doesn't open for shots until 9. I'm back home. try again tomorrow. fuck it.No appointment necessary?
Post by: Bad Dad on September 20, 2018, 11:02:44 PM
It's been so hot and humid all summer, I haven't been able to open the windows and turn on the attic fan, or go outside to have a cigar ... ugh..!What the hell's a cigar?Very true. I'm changing the name to CigarSlackers. Might even get rid of the cigar part.Hell, we don't need to go back that far for MIA's. Fish, Rick, CB, Chip, .... Even Sam stays on the bubble, the slacker.Morning Daves, Dean, and Mr. Mayor. Would be nice to hear from LostLinkBD again. As I recall he has some interesting neighbor ladies as well.Great morning to you, Mark. I'm looking forward to hearing from ANYONE at this point. Where's Marker or Dogdays??
Post by: Bad Dad on September 20, 2018, 11:12:18 PM