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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #255 on: February 03, 2016, 05:54:46 PM »

That does not look like a fram  filter

Fuel, but same concept... Napa has a similar stock item. Very little modification.
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #256 on: February 03, 2016, 05:55:29 PM »

Tex, did you see my "filter" post earlier? Folks will come up with some ideas, I tell ya.
No but will go back and find it
Can't find it
He's talking about the Fram-oil-filter-as-a-suppressor trick.
And yes, it does work, and yes, it's supposedly legal.
If it functions as a suppressor then it is a suppressor regardless of how it is made and it has to be licensed as such.
The adapter is registered as a suppressor.
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #257 on: February 03, 2016, 05:59:25 PM »

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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #258 on: February 03, 2016, 06:01:26 PM »

Famous email... LOW Prices on Tatuaje... Just the Para Ti on sale. Sheesh.
Never had a Para Ti.  A Pete so couldn't be bad.

Me neither. Could be a great deal at 44% off plus catsrule 17%.
Don't think the cat works on Tat so have to go into Famous maneuvers

Did on these. Box of toros was @$76
Good deal I thought they were in the massive excluded list

PARA TI CANONAZOS
Para Ti Cigars are a new offering by Tatuaje. The blend was created by Fred Schrader, an avid wine blender and creator of some of Napa Valley's best wines. Using his experience blending wine, he brought a new cigar blend to Tatuaje owner Pete Johnson who agreed to produce it. This cigar is now called the Para Ti. This Dominican puro offers a perfect balance of strength and flavor that seems to fit every smoker's palate. A truly remarkable boutique cigar. Pick yours up today!
FULL SPECIFICATIONS
Strength:Medium, Shape:Toro, Size:6 x 48

...More like a Corona Gorda in the other lines
Very nice size I think, whatever you should call it I am not sure.
Lotta toros in 6x50 or so dimensions.
Not bad, well above average, but definitely riding the coattails.
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #259 on: February 03, 2016, 06:03:36 PM »

Famous email... LOW Prices on Tatuaje... Just the Para Ti on sale. Sheesh.
Never had a Para Ti.  A Pete so couldn't be bad.

Me neither. Could be a great deal at 44% off plus catsrule 17%.
Don't think the cat works on Tat so have to go into Famous maneuvers

Did on these. Box of toros was @$76
Good deal I thought they were in the massive excluded list

I was hoping the Black petite lanceros were on the sale list, but alas... no.  :-\
Good to have hope like that, more needed in the world....also keep buying lottery tickets!
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #260 on: February 03, 2016, 06:08:18 PM »

Tex, did you see my "filter" post earlier? Folks will come up with some ideas, I tell ya.
No but will go back and find it
Can't find it
He's talking about the Fram-oil-filter-as-a-suppressor trick.
And yes, it does work, and yes, it's supposedly legal.
If it functions as a suppressor then it is a suppressor regardless of how it is made and it has to be licensed as such.
The adapter is registered as a suppressor.
Believe whatever you want to, don't matter to me because they are mostly worthless IMHO.

Firearms Verification

Gun Control Act Definitions

Silencer

18 U.S.C., § 921(A)(24)

The term “Firearm Silencer” or “Firearm Muffler” means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

Note: Any device that meets the definition as stipulated above in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(24) is also subject to controls of the National Firearms Act 26 U.S.C., Chapter 53.

 

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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #261 on: February 03, 2016, 06:09:18 PM »

Famous email... LOW Prices on Tatuaje... Just the Para Ti on sale. Sheesh.
Never had a Para Ti.  A Pete so couldn't be bad.

Me neither. Could be a great deal at 44% off plus catsrule 17%.
Don't think the cat works on Tat so have to go into Famous maneuvers

Did on these. Box of toros was @$76
Good deal I thought they were in the massive excluded list

I was hoping the Black petite lanceros were on the sale list, but alas... no.  :-\
Good to have hope like that, more needed in the world....also keep buying lottery tickets!
Yeah look where hope and change got us! 
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #262 on: February 03, 2016, 06:09:56 PM »




That does not look like a fram  filter
Forget all that fancy stuff, watching the Mark Walberg movie "The Shooter".  He did quite well using a plastic soda bottle.  ;)
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #263 on: February 03, 2016, 06:11:39 PM »

Day is done, enjoying a Four Kicks with coffee on this balmy 60 degree day.
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #264 on: February 03, 2016, 06:15:33 PM »

Tex, did you see my "filter" post earlier? Folks will come up with some ideas, I tell ya.
No but will go back and find it
Can't find it
He's talking about the Fram-oil-filter-as-a-suppressor trick.
And yes, it does work, and yes, it's supposedly legal.
If it functions as a suppressor then it is a suppressor regardless of how it is made and it has to be licensed as such.
The adapter is registered as a suppressor.
Believe whatever you want to, don't matter to me because they are mostly worthless IMHO.

Firearms Verification

Gun Control Act Definitions

Silencer

18 U.S.C., § 921(A)(24)

The term “Firearm Silencer” or “Firearm Muffler” means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

Note: Any device that meets the definition as stipulated above in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(24) is also subject to controls of the National Firearms Act 26 U.S.C., Chapter 53.
I don't have feelings one way or the other, but I could make the legal case that if the adapter is registered as a silencer, it meets the requirements of the law. Whether the court would agree, no way to say.
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #265 on: February 03, 2016, 06:22:57 PM »

Tex, did you see my "filter" post earlier? Folks will come up with some ideas, I tell ya.
No but will go back and find it
Can't find it
He's talking about the Fram-oil-filter-as-a-suppressor trick.
And yes, it does work, and yes, it's supposedly legal.
If it functions as a suppressor then it is a suppressor regardless of how it is made and it has to be licensed as such.
The adapter is registered as a suppressor.
Believe whatever you want to, don't matter to me because they are mostly worthless IMHO.

Firearms Verification

Gun Control Act Definitions

Silencer

18 U.S.C., § 921(A)(24)

The term “Firearm Silencer” or “Firearm Muffler” means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

Note: Any device that meets the definition as stipulated above in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(24) is also subject to controls of the National Firearms Act 26 U.S.C., Chapter 53.
I don't have feelings one way or the other, but I could make the legal case that if the adapter is registered as a silencer, it meets the requirements of the law. Whether the court would agree, no way to say.
Easy, read the code and that is why the word "parts" is in there but go for it and find out.
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #266 on: February 03, 2016, 06:28:58 PM »

He should have hired Raz to make his case, would have at least saved a $hitload of money

NORRISTOWN, Pa. (AP) — A judge refused to throw out the sexual assault case against Bill Cosby on Wednesday, sweeping aside claims that a previous district attorney had granted the comedian immunity from prosecution a decade ago.

Common Pleas Judge Steven O'Neill issued the ruling after a hard-fought two-day hearing.
The case now moves to a preliminary hearing to determine whether there is enough evidence to try the 78-year-old Cosby on charges he drugged and violated former Temple University athletic department employee Andrea Constand at his suburban Philadelphia home in 2004.

The TV star could get up to 10 years in prison if convicted.
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #267 on: February 03, 2016, 06:46:07 PM »

Tex, did you see my "filter" post earlier? Folks will come up with some ideas, I tell ya.
No but will go back and find it
Can't find it
He's talking about the Fram-oil-filter-as-a-suppressor trick.
And yes, it does work, and yes, it's supposedly legal.
If it functions as a suppressor then it is a suppressor regardless of how it is made and it has to be licensed as such.
The adapter is registered as a suppressor.
Believe whatever you want to, don't matter to me because they are mostly worthless IMHO.

Firearms Verification

Gun Control Act Definitions

Silencer

18 U.S.C., § 921(A)(24)

The term “Firearm Silencer” or “Firearm Muffler” means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

Note: Any device that meets the definition as stipulated above in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(24) is also subject to controls of the National Firearms Act 26 U.S.C., Chapter 53.
I don't have feelings one way or the other, but I could make the legal case that if the adapter is registered as a silencer, it meets the requirements of the law. Whether the court would agree, no way to say.
Easy, read the code and that is why the word "parts" is in there but go for it and find out.

I did read the code. So here's my case.

1. It is clearly the intent to fabricate a device for suppression of report. So the adapter was duly registered as a suppressing device, and the excise was paid.

2. The oil filter was not solely intended only for use in a silencing device, but since it was used in this case for "fabricating a silencing assembly", it is subject to the law. However, since the filter cannot be deemed to be a silencing device without a means to attach it to a firearm, it is the adapter that is the critical component to silencing the firearm. That the adapter is unable, by itself, to silence the firearm is incidental to the law. Since the filter cannot silence the firearm without the adapter, registering either element as a silencing device ensures compliance, and whichever device is registered provides a legal umbrella to the other, since the assembly can only become a silencing device with both components.

3. The filter, in and of itself, has not been redesigned to be a silencing device. It has been repurposed. But this repurposing cannot be achieved without the adapter. The adaptor, therefore, is the logical locus of regulation, and having been duly registered in compliance to the law, whatever other components are attached to it to achieve it's potential are incidental to the law.
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #268 on: February 03, 2016, 06:53:16 PM »

He should have hired Raz to make his case, would have at least saved a $hitload of money

NORRISTOWN, Pa. (AP) — A judge refused to throw out the sexual assault case against Bill Cosby on Wednesday, sweeping aside claims that a previous district attorney had granted the comedian immunity from prosecution a decade ago.

Common Pleas Judge Steven O'Neill issued the ruling after a hard-fought two-day hearing.
The case now moves to a preliminary hearing to determine whether there is enough evidence to try the 78-year-old Cosby on charges he drugged and violated former Temple University athletic department employee Andrea Constand at his suburban Philadelphia home in 2004.

The TV star could get up to 10 years in prison if convicted.
He wouldn't have saved a dime. That case is so hopeless I'd have charged every cent his attorney did. I'm not above making a fool of myself for money, but if I'm gonna do it for a rich and famous guy, he's going to pay accordingly.
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Re: 2/3/2016
« Reply #269 on: February 03, 2016, 07:02:27 PM »

Famous email... LOW Prices on Tatuaje... Just the Para Ti on sale. Sheesh.
Never had a Para Ti.  A Pete so couldn't be bad.

Me neither. Could be a great deal at 44% off plus catsrule 17%.
Don't think the cat works on Tat so have to go into Famous maneuvers

Did on these. Box of toros was @$76
Good deal I thought they were in the massive excluded list

I was hoping the Black petite lanceros were on the sale list, but alas... no.  :-\
Good to have hope like that, more needed in the world....also keep buying lottery tickets!

DaboDowner... no pizza for you!   ;D
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