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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2025, 12:43:47 PM »

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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2025, 01:00:10 PM »

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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2025, 01:05:35 PM »

Let's talk about nationalism.  The term seems to have developed a severely negative connotation.  As a guy who is fascinated by words and by the usage of words, this interests me.  By definition, "nationalism" and "patriotism" broadly overlap.  But it would seem that most people have a negative view of "nationalism" and a positive view of "patriotism." 

Do you think nationalism is a negative thing?  Where do you believe the line is between nationalism and patriotism?  Why?
You are correct.  Nationalism as defined, similar to patriotism is not a negative and I'm all for it.  Current use however has aligned nationalism with Christian nationalism and isolationism, both of which I am not in favor of.
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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2025, 01:15:26 PM »

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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2025, 01:18:50 PM »

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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2025, 01:32:43 PM »

Today's Birthdays

Those born on this date are under the sign of Scorpio. They include:

humorist Will Rogers in 1879;
journalist Walter Cronkite in 1916;
actor Doris Roberts in 1925;
actor Loretta Swit in 1937;
musician Scherrie Payne (Supremes) in 1944 (age 81);
former U.S. first lady Laura Bush in 1946 (age 79);
actor Ivonne Coll in 1947 (age 78);
writer Charles Frazier in 1950 (age 75);
actor Markie Post in 1950;
comedian/actor Kathy Griffin in 1960 (age 65);
actor Ralph Macchio in 1961 (age 64);
TV personality Jeff Probst in 1961 (age 64);
musician Tim Burton (Mighty Mighty Bosstones) in 1963 (age 62);
actor Matthew McConaughey in 1969 (age 56);
actor Samantha Smith in 1969 (age 56);
musician Sean "Diddy" Combs in 1969 (age 56);
actor Steven Ogg in 1973 (age 52);
celebrity chef Curtis Stone in 1975 (age 50);
actor Heather Tom in 1975 (age 50);
actor Travis Van Winkle in 1982 (age 43);
actor Jean-Luc Bilodeau in 1990 (age 35);
actor Gia Kim in 1992 (age 33);
actor Drew Starkey in 1993 (age 32);
NBA player Tyrese Maxey in 2000 (age 25).

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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2025, 01:38:00 PM »

Let's talk about nationalism.  The term seems to have developed a severely negative connotation.  As a guy who is fascinated by words and by the usage of words, this interests me.  By definition, "nationalism" and "patriotism" broadly overlap.  But it would seem that most people have a negative view of "nationalism" and a positive view of "patriotism." 

Do you think nationalism is a negative thing?  Where do you believe the line is between nationalism and patriotism?  Why?

I was a little confused at first because I didn't associate a negative connotation with the word NATIONALISM. Now I see what you were asking. No, I don't see this as a negative thing, but I can understand how it can be used in a divisive way, and I'm not happy about that.
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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2025, 01:48:22 PM »

Let's talk about nationalism.  The term seems to have developed a severely negative connotation.  As a guy who is fascinated by words and by the usage of words, this interests me.  By definition, "nationalism" and "patriotism" broadly overlap.  But it would seem that most people have a negative view of "nationalism" and a positive view of "patriotism." 

Do you think nationalism is a negative thing?  Where do you believe the line is between nationalism and patriotism?  Why?
You are correct.  Nationalism as defined, similar to patriotism is not a negative and I'm all for it.  Current use however has aligned nationalism with Christian nationalism and isolationism, both of which I am not in favor of.
Since you oppose isolationism, do you think nationalism and internationalism are a spectrum? Is there a point at which you feel nationalism and internationalism would be in some sort of equilibrium?
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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2025, 02:01:26 PM »



Let's talk about nationalism.  The term seems to have developed a severely negative connotation.  As a guy who is fascinated by words and by the usage of words, this interests me.  By definition, "nationalism" and "patriotism" broadly overlap.  But it would seem that most people have a negative view of "nationalism" and a positive view of "patriotism." 

Do you think nationalism is a negative thing?  Where do you believe the line is between nationalism and patriotism?  Why?

I was a little confused at first because I didn't associate a negative connotation with the word NATIONALISM. Now I see what you were asking. No, I don't see this as a negative thing, but I can understand how it can be used in a divisive way, and I'm not happy about that.

Linking the word with something else, as TD indicated, can automatically put it into controversial territory - i.e. "White Nationalism" or "Christian Nationalism." But I'm more interested here in the word itself, which frequently enough is put into a negative light without linking it to other things.

I consider myself a realist, especially about international affairs, so like TD I cannot be considered an isolationist. But I expect y'all might find my views on America's role in foreign affairs rather...intense, perhaps? Maybe even "ultranationalist?"

But we're not going there. This is just about concepts. I'm curious whether y'all consider yourselves more nationalist, more internationalist, or somehow both.
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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2025, 02:16:00 PM »

Time to head out and pick up some more kids. Hazzuh!
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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2025, 03:13:17 PM »



Let's talk about nationalism.  The term seems to have developed a severely negative connotation.  As a guy who is fascinated by words and by the usage of words, this interests me.  By definition, "nationalism" and "patriotism" broadly overlap.  But it would seem that most people have a negative view of "nationalism" and a positive view of "patriotism." 

Do you think nationalism is a negative thing?  Where do you believe the line is between nationalism and patriotism?  Why?

I was a little confused at first because I didn't associate a negative connotation with the word NATIONALISM. Now I see what you were asking. No, I don't see this as a negative thing, but I can understand how it can be used in a divisive way, and I'm not happy about that.

Linking the word with something else, as TD indicated, can automatically put it into controversial territory - i.e. "White Nationalism" or "Christian Nationalism." But I'm more interested here in the word itself, which frequently enough is put into a negative light without linking it to other things.

I consider myself a realist, especially about international affairs, so like TD I cannot be considered an isolationist. But I expect y'all might find my views on America's role in foreign affairs rather...intense, perhaps? Maybe even "ultranationalist?"

But we're not going there. This is just about concepts. I'm curious whether y'all consider yourselves more nationalist, more internationalist, or somehow both.

I can't help but worry that by answering your question, you and the handful of others on here, are going to receive the confirmation of how much of an idiot I am. Essentially, I love this country and I'm proud to be from the U.S.A. However, I also recognize that being a world leader entails a significant amount of responsibility, and we must collaborate with other nations to be effective world citizens. I guess we could begin manufacturing everything we need domestically and not trade with any other nations. I don't think it's realistic. I understand that as a nation, we shouldn't do things that benefit others but harm us. My priority is the U.S.A. But I am in favor of rising tides that raise all ships, versus I'm gonna take care of #1, and fuck everyone else. Based on that, I'll let you put a label on me.
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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2025, 03:41:03 PM »

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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2025, 04:15:38 PM »





Let's talk about nationalism.  The term seems to have developed a severely negative connotation.  As a guy who is fascinated by words and by the usage of words, this interests me.  By definition, "nationalism" and "patriotism" broadly overlap.  But it would seem that most people have a negative view of "nationalism" and a positive view of "patriotism." 

Do you think nationalism is a negative thing?  Where do you believe the line is between nationalism and patriotism?  Why?

I was a little confused at first because I didn't associate a negative connotation with the word NATIONALISM. Now I see what you were asking. No, I don't see this as a negative thing, but I can understand how it can be used in a divisive way, and I'm not happy about that.

Linking the word with something else, as TD indicated, can automatically put it into controversial territory - i.e. "White Nationalism" or "Christian Nationalism." But I'm more interested here in the word itself, which frequently enough is put into a negative light without linking it to other things.

I consider myself a realist, especially about international affairs, so like TD I cannot be considered an isolationist. But I expect y'all might find my views on America's role in foreign affairs rather...intense, perhaps? Maybe even "ultranationalist?"

But we're not going there. This is just about concepts. I'm curious whether y'all consider yourselves more nationalist, more internationalist, or somehow both.

I can't help but worry that by answering your question, you and the handful of others on here, are going to receive the confirmation of how much of an idiot I am. Essentially, I love this country and I'm proud to be from the U.S.A. However, I also recognize that being a world leader entails a significant amount of responsibility, and we must collaborate with other nations to be effective world citizens. I guess we could begin manufacturing everything we need domestically and not trade with any other nations. I don't think it's realistic. I understand that as a nation, we shouldn't do things that benefit others but harm us. My priority is the U.S.A. But I am in favor of rising tides that raise all ships, versus I'm gonna take care of #1, and fuck everyone else. Based on that, I'll let you put a label on me.

It's really not about labeling, and even if it were, this is an inquiry - genuine curiosity on my part. So even if you were to say "I'm 100% internationalist, and think both borders and notions of national identity should be done away with," I'm not going to tell you you're wrong.

As it is, what I'm hearing from you and TD is that you DO consider yourselves nationalist to a significant degree, and don't think that's a bad thing to be so long as things like race or religion are not enjoined to it.

There ARE a lot of people in the world, and in this country, who think nationalism of any sort is bad. Nationalism is inherently anathema to any authentic Marxist.

This brings us to an interesting question. To what degree does your personal calculus of individualism vs collectivism influence your calculus of nationalism vs internationalism?


 
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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2025, 06:06:55 PM »



Let's talk about nationalism.  The term seems to have developed a severely negative connotation.  As a guy who is fascinated by words and by the usage of words, this interests me.  By definition, "nationalism" and "patriotism" broadly overlap.  But it would seem that most people have a negative view of "nationalism" and a positive view of "patriotism." 

Do you think nationalism is a negative thing?  Where do you believe the line is between nationalism and patriotism?  Why?

I was a little confused at first because I didn't associate a negative connotation with the word NATIONALISM. Now I see what you were asking. No, I don't see this as a negative thing, but I can understand how it can be used in a divisive way, and I'm not happy about that.

Linking the word with something else, as TD indicated, can automatically put it into controversial territory - i.e. "White Nationalism" or "Christian Nationalism." But I'm more interested here in the word itself, which frequently enough is put into a negative light without linking it to other things.

I consider myself a realist, especially about international affairs, so like TD I cannot be considered an isolationist. But I expect y'all might find my views on America's role in foreign affairs rather...intense, perhaps? Maybe even "ultranationalist?"

But we're not going there. This is just about concepts. I'm curious whether y'all consider yourselves more nationalist, more internationalist, or somehow both.
I agree with that also.  For years we have been obsessed with spreading "democracy" to combat communism.  That pursuit has been totally FUBAR.  We have made a bigger mess of the middle east with our meddling and now are looking to do the same thing in South America.  None of our business.
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Re: 11/4/2025
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2025, 07:02:03 PM »

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