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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2021, 11:42:53 AM »

How dare they be putting up statues of nekkid people in my city!

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2021/05/10/wings-city-exhibit-draws-complaints-indecency-greenville-city-council/5029993001/?utm_source=greenvilleonline-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

I'm sure kids seeing "mens parts" is going to scar them for life!
Having seen the Wings of the City sculptures, I'm not sure what the councilman means by "extreme nudity."  The genitalia is not particularly defined.  On the other hand, I'm wondering exactly what values and ideals of Greenville - or any city - the sculptures are supposed to represent.
I'm only guessing that a passing buttocks or a tit or two would be OK, but genitals, however abstract are not to be seen!
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2021, 11:43:11 AM »

I did get page 4 in!
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2021, 11:45:01 AM »

How dare they be putting up statues of nekkid people in my city!

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2021/05/10/wings-city-exhibit-draws-complaints-indecency-greenville-city-council/5029993001/?utm_source=greenvilleonline-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

I'm sure kids seeing "mens parts" is going to scar them for life!
Before even clicking on this article, I was thinking, I wonder how far south this city will be. I wasn't disappointed.

"Because they're sculptures, they're considered art." Priceless.
Ah, there it is.  The Genetic Fallacy masquerading as "enlightenment."  You must have been top of your class in college.
Yeah, sorry, but "ohmygod there's a penis on that art!" has southern "morality" written all over it. While genetic fallacy was clearly behind my initial reaction, I feel that the article itself proved what I expected it to. Is a stereotype still a stereotype when it's proved to be true?
Not in the new age of Trumpf reality.
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2021, 11:54:21 AM »

How dare they be putting up statues of nekkid people in my city!

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2021/05/10/wings-city-exhibit-draws-complaints-indecency-greenville-city-council/5029993001/?utm_source=greenvilleonline-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

I'm sure kids seeing "mens parts" is going to scar them for life!
Before even clicking on this article, I was thinking, I wonder how far south this city will be. I wasn't disappointed.

"Because they're sculptures, they're considered art." Priceless.
Ah, there it is.  The Genetic Fallacy masquerading as "enlightenment."  You must have been top of your class in college.
Yeah, sorry, but "ohmygod there's a penis on that art!" has southern "morality" written all over it. While genetic fallacy was clearly behind my initial reaction, I feel that the article itself proved what I expected it to. Is a stereotype still a stereotype when it's proved to be true?
Not in the new age of Trumpf reality.
#ReallyRealNews
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2021, 12:01:27 PM »

Speaking of Drumpf, I'm hearing from reliable sources that the totally legit recount in AZ is complete, and he won by 6 billion votes. #ReallyRealNews
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2021, 12:28:02 PM »

Mega Millions at almost 400 Million.  Time to pick up those tickets!
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2021, 12:29:33 PM »

Mega Millions at almost 400 Million.  Time to pick up those tickets!
I've got mine.
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2021, 12:56:22 PM »

How dare they be putting up statues of nekkid people in my city!

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2021/05/10/wings-city-exhibit-draws-complaints-indecency-greenville-city-council/5029993001/?utm_source=greenvilleonline-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

I'm sure kids seeing "mens parts" is going to scar them for life!
Before even clicking on this article, I was thinking, I wonder how far south this city will be. I wasn't disappointed.

"Because they're sculptures, they're considered art." Priceless.
Ah, there it is.  The Genetic Fallacy masquerading as "enlightenment."  You must have been top of your class in college.
Yeah, sorry, but "ohmygod there's a penis on that art!" has southern "morality" written all over it. While genetic fallacy was clearly behind my initial reaction, I feel that the article itself proved what I expected it to. Is a stereotype still a stereotype when it's proved to be true?
Yeah, sorry, but you're ignoring history, as "northern liberals" are so given to doing.  "Oh my god there's a penis on that art!" was a universal sentiment well into the 20th century.  Whether it was an appropriate sentiment or not can be debated or joked about.  But it doesn't originate in the south.  That it lingers in the south isn't surprising, given how agrarian the south is and was.  But it lingers in the north as well as the south, if you happen to be enlightened enough to step out of your echo chamber once in a while.

So the northern liberal surprise ("We're shocked.  SHOCKED I say!") that other parts of the country don't keep up with their enlightenment is not just disingenuous, but retarded.  Cotton Mather and Jonathan Edwards were northerners, not southerners.   The original hotbed of Protestant Fundamentalist Fervor in the Americas was Massachusetts, not South Carolina.

And no, I'm not southern born.  I was born in San Jose, California.  But I endeavor to be, y'know, rational about things.  ;-)
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #53 on: May 11, 2021, 01:06:51 PM »

How dare they be putting up statues of nekkid people in my city!

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2021/05/10/wings-city-exhibit-draws-complaints-indecency-greenville-city-council/5029993001/?utm_source=greenvilleonline-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

I'm sure kids seeing "mens parts" is going to scar them for life!
Having seen the Wings of the City sculptures, I'm not sure what the councilman means by "extreme nudity."  The genitalia is not particularly defined.  On the other hand, I'm wondering exactly what values and ideals of Greenville - or any city - the sculptures are supposed to represent.
I'm only guessing that a passing buttocks or a tit or two would be OK, but genitals, however abstract are not to be seen!
See, and you seem surprised by this, but isn't it interesting that here in Bluest of Blue Washington there are no bottomless nude clubs (and damned few titty bars), but fundamentalist Georgia has lots of full nude bars, and Southern Baptist Dallas has arguably the finest titty bars in the country? We won't get into the history of art nor the whole debate in the 70's around Larry Flynt's magazine "showing pink."  Suffice to say that clearly there are differences of opinion on what constitutes pornography that cut across the Mason-Dixon line, and just about every other line.
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #54 on: May 11, 2021, 01:15:53 PM »

How dare they be putting up statues of nekkid people in my city!

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2021/05/10/wings-city-exhibit-draws-complaints-indecency-greenville-city-council/5029993001/?utm_source=greenvilleonline-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

I'm sure kids seeing "mens parts" is going to scar them for life!
Before even clicking on this article, I was thinking, I wonder how far south this city will be. I wasn't disappointed.

"Because they're sculptures, they're considered art." Priceless.
Ah, there it is.  The Genetic Fallacy masquerading as "enlightenment."  You must have been top of your class in college.
Is a stereotype still a stereotype when it's proved to be true?
Stereotypes are what they are, regardless how anyone feels about them.  I'm more interested in this concept of "proved to be true."  I've had to check in on the Scientific Method several times this morning and apparently our scientists are still unable to make it prove anything true.  You got some scientists out there in Ohio say otherwise?
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #55 on: May 11, 2021, 01:17:17 PM »

How dare they be putting up statues of nekkid people in my city!

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2021/05/10/wings-city-exhibit-draws-complaints-indecency-greenville-city-council/5029993001/?utm_source=greenvilleonline-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

I'm sure kids seeing "mens parts" is going to scar them for life!
Before even clicking on this article, I was thinking, I wonder how far south this city will be. I wasn't disappointed.

"Because they're sculptures, they're considered art." Priceless.
Ah, there it is.  The Genetic Fallacy masquerading as "enlightenment."  You must have been top of your class in college.
Yeah, sorry, but "ohmygod there's a penis on that art!" has southern "morality" written all over it. While genetic fallacy was clearly behind my initial reaction, I feel that the article itself proved what I expected it to. Is a stereotype still a stereotype when it's proved to be true?
Yeah, sorry, but you're ignoring history, as "northern liberals" are so given to doing.  "Oh my god there's a penis on that art!" was a universal sentiment well into the 20th century.  Whether it was an appropriate sentiment or not can be debated or joked about.  But it doesn't originate in the south.  That it lingers in the south isn't surprising, given how agrarian the south is and was.  But it lingers in the north as well as the south, if you happen to be enlightened enough to step out of your echo chamber once in a while.

So the northern liberal surprise ("We're shocked.  SHOCKED I say!") that other parts of the country don't keep up with their enlightenment is not just disingenuous, but retarded.  Cotton Mather and Jonathan Edwards were northerners, not southerners.   The original hotbed of Protestant Fundamentalist Fervor in the Americas was Massachusetts, not South Carolina.

And no, I'm not southern born.  I was born in San Jose, California.  But I endeavor to be, y'know, rational about things.  ;-)
Not sure you meant to make my point for me, but here we are. Of course it can be found in lots of places, my point simply being it that is is far likelier to be a southern ideology these days. Since I was relatively certain the article was not about statues that were put up 30 years ago (or 200+ years ago, as your odd references to two preachers would indicate), it was an easy (and correct) assumption that this originated in the south. Some might even call that a rational assumption, if one were to wax poetic about such things.
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #56 on: May 11, 2021, 01:20:32 PM »

How dare they be putting up statues of nekkid people in my city!

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2021/05/10/wings-city-exhibit-draws-complaints-indecency-greenville-city-council/5029993001/?utm_source=greenvilleonline-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

I'm sure kids seeing "mens parts" is going to scar them for life!
Before even clicking on this article, I was thinking, I wonder how far south this city will be. I wasn't disappointed.

"Because they're sculptures, they're considered art." Priceless.
Ah, there it is.  The Genetic Fallacy masquerading as "enlightenment."  You must have been top of your class in college.
Is a stereotype still a stereotype when it's proved to be true?
Stereotypes are what they are, regardless how anyone feels about them.  I'm more interested in this concept of "proved to be true."  I've had to check in on the Scientific Method several times this morning and apparently our scientists are still unable to make it prove anything true.  You got some scientists out there in Ohio say otherwise?
No scientists needed to put even the most basic definition of the scientific method through its paces:

1 - Make an observation (this article seems to be about people complaining about genitals on art)
2 - Create a hypothesis (I bet this is from the south)
3 - Test the hypothesis (I'll click on the article and read it)
4 - Draw conclusions (yep, it was from the south)
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2021, 01:36:35 PM »

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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2021, 01:55:10 PM »

How dare they be putting up statues of nekkid people in my city!

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2021/05/10/wings-city-exhibit-draws-complaints-indecency-greenville-city-council/5029993001/?utm_source=greenvilleonline-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

I'm sure kids seeing "mens parts" is going to scar them for life!
Before even clicking on this article, I was thinking, I wonder how far south this city will be. I wasn't disappointed.

"Because they're sculptures, they're considered art." Priceless.
Ah, there it is.  The Genetic Fallacy masquerading as "enlightenment."  You must have been top of your class in college.
Yeah, sorry, but "ohmygod there's a penis on that art!" has southern "morality" written all over it. While genetic fallacy was clearly behind my initial reaction, I feel that the article itself proved what I expected it to. Is a stereotype still a stereotype when it's proved to be true?
Yeah, sorry, but you're ignoring history, as "northern liberals" are so given to doing.  "Oh my god there's a penis on that art!" was a universal sentiment well into the 20th century.  Whether it was an appropriate sentiment or not can be debated or joked about.  But it doesn't originate in the south.  That it lingers in the south isn't surprising, given how agrarian the south is and was.  But it lingers in the north as well as the south, if you happen to be enlightened enough to step out of your echo chamber once in a while.

So the northern liberal surprise ("We're shocked.  SHOCKED I say!") that other parts of the country don't keep up with their enlightenment is not just disingenuous, but retarded.  Cotton Mather and Jonathan Edwards were northerners, not southerners.   The original hotbed of Protestant Fundamentalist Fervor in the Americas was Massachusetts, not South Carolina.

And no, I'm not southern born.  I was born in San Jose, California.  But I endeavor to be, y'know, rational about things.  ;-)
Rational thought...now there is a novelty!

Besides, lots of people are not able to deal with it...

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/americans-get-offended-by-statues-of-naked-people-too-1270854

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cover-up-at-justice-department/

Even in Cali...https://la.curbed.com/2012/8/9/10341664/when-everyone-giggled-at-the-la-coliseums-headless-nudes
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Re: 5/11/2021
« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2021, 02:03:59 PM »

How dare they be putting up statues of nekkid people in my city!

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2021/05/10/wings-city-exhibit-draws-complaints-indecency-greenville-city-council/5029993001/?utm_source=greenvilleonline-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

I'm sure kids seeing "mens parts" is going to scar them for life!
Before even clicking on this article, I was thinking, I wonder how far south this city will be. I wasn't disappointed.

"Because they're sculptures, they're considered art." Priceless.
Ah, there it is.  The Genetic Fallacy masquerading as "enlightenment."  You must have been top of your class in college.
Is a stereotype still a stereotype when it's proved to be true?
Stereotypes are what they are, regardless how anyone feels about them.  I'm more interested in this concept of "proved to be true."  I've had to check in on the Scientific Method several times this morning and apparently our scientists are still unable to make it prove anything true.  You got some scientists out there in Ohio say otherwise?
No scientists needed to put even the most basic definition of the scientific method through its paces:

1 - Make an observation (this article seems to be about people complaining about genitals on art)
2 - Create a hypothesis (I bet this is from the south)
3 - Test the hypothesis (I'll click on the article and read it)
4 - Draw conclusions (yep, it was from the south)
Try to remember what questions you've asked.
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