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Cigar Banter => Daily Cigar Deals Discussion => Topic started by: CigarBanter on December 15, 2025, 12:19:40 AM
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Happy Monday! Any cigar deals on the various internet sites? Join in this discussion and perhaps learn something about cigars along the way. Warning: don't proceed if you have thin skin but don't be afraid to post either... And welcome aboard!
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Morning, boyos. Happy Dean Day.
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Last work week of the year for me, just gotta get through my 40 hours.
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Joe:
CAO Brazilia Gol! - 10/34.50
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Sis:
Door #1 - AJ's All-Star Assortment - 20/89.99
2 x Ave Maria Divinia No Tube (6.0" x 54)
2 x Ave Maria Argentum Robusto (4.9" x 52)
2 x H. Upmann by AJ Fernandez Toro (6.0" x 54) '92' - Rated
2 x Diesel Unholy Cocktail Belicoso (5.0" x 56)
2 x Diesel Unlimited Maduro d.5 (5.5" x 54)
2 x Man O' War Ruination Robusto #2 (6.0" x 60)
2 x Man O' War Armada Gordo (6.5" x 56)
2 x Punch Diablo by AJ Fernandez Diabolus (5.2" x 54) '91' - Rated
2 x Rosa de Guadalupe by AJ Fernandez Toro (6.2" x 54)
2 x Romeo y Julieta by AJ Fernandez Robusto (5.0" x 52)
Door #2 - Man O' War Virtue Torpedo - 10/44.99
Door #3 - Ave Maria Reconquista Torpedo (No Coffin/No Sale) - 5/24.99
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Morning, boyos. Happy Dean Day.
Good morning, DeanDave.
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Last work week of the year for me, just gotta get through my 40 hours.
It'll go by in a flash.
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Last work week of the year for me, just gotta get through my 40 hours.
It'll go by in a flash.
No, the two weeks I'm off after this one will go by in a flash.
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Now they're saying Rob Reiner and his wife were found with stab wounds, and that his son is in custody for questioning.
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Strands #652
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Last work week of the year for me, just gotta get through my 40 hours.
It'll go by in a flash.
No, the two weeks I'm off after this one will go by in a flash.
Also.
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Another close one. Sheesh.
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I had similar issues.
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I don't know why I play Sports Connections. It probably frustrates me more than any other.
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Connections
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I don't know why I play Sports Connections. It probably frustrates me more than any other.
It can definitely be a bit harder than regular Connections, because it's so niche. Which makes them go pretty deep into the oddball category, since they have so little material to pull from.
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One extra.
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Tons of meetings today. First one starts now.
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Tons of meetings today. First one starts now.
One meeting today (which starts at 2, so I'll see about 20 minutes of it) and then one on Thursday. That's it for me for the week.
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A couple of 6-packs today at the Page:
https://www.cigarpage.com/oliva-freshies-one-hitter.html
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Good morning SportsConnectionsTony and CountdownDave.
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Good morning SportsConnectionsTony and CountdownDave.
Morning, HolidayHostDave.
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Today is Monday, Dec. 15, the 348th day of 2025
with 16 to follow.
The moon is waning. Morning stars are Jupiter, Mercury, Neptune, Saturn, Uranus and Venus. Evening stars are Jupiter, Neptune, Saturn, Uranus and Venus.
On this date in history:
In 1791, the Bill of Rights, comprising the first 10 amendments to the U.S. Constitution, took effect.
In 1890, Sioux Indian leader Sitting Bull was killed in a skirmish with U.S. soldiers along the Grand River in South Dakota.
In 1939, the film version of Gone with the Wind premiered in Atlanta.
In 1945, U.S. Gen. Douglas MacArthur ordered an end to state Shintoism in Japan, a key belief of which was that the emperor was a divine being. Because the U.S. government supported freedom of religion, though, it did not place an outright ban on the religion.
In 1961, Adolf Eichmann, the Nazi SS officer regarded as the architect of the World War II Holocaust, was condemned to death by an Israeli war crimes tribunal.
In 1973, John Paul Getty III is found alive at a gas station outside of Naples, Italy, more than four months after he was kidnapped.
In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association reversed its longstanding position and declared that being gay isn't a mental illness.
In 1990, in a landmark right-to-die case, a Missouri judge cleared the way for the parents of Nancy Cruzan to remove their daughter from life-support systems.
In 1992, Salvadorans celebrated the formal end to their country's 12-year civil war.
In 1993, British Prime Minister John Major and Irish Prime Minister Albert Reynolds issued a "framework for lasting peace" in Northern Ireland.
In 1997, 85 people were killed in the crash of a Tajik Airlines charter jetliner in the United Arab Emirates.
In 2001, the leaning Tower of Pisa reopened after a decadelong restoration effort.
In 2011, the United States formally ended its long military mission in Iraq in a solemn ceremony at Baghdad's international airport. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta declared the war was over. It had begun in 2003.
In 2014, Man Haron Monis took 18 people hostage inside a Lindt Cafe in Sydney, Australia. The standoff, which lasted 16 hours, finally ended when police raided the cafe the next morning. Monis and two hostages died in the ordeal.
In 2017, 16-year-old Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi was recorded slapping and kicking an Israeli soldier in the West Bank after forces shot her younger cousin the head for throwing rocks. She was arrested days later and sentenced to eight months in prison.
In 2023, jurors in a federal civil defamation trial ordered Rudy Giuliani to pay nearly $150 million in damages to two election workers.
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Today's Birthdays
Those born on this date are under the sign of Sagittarius. They include:
the Roman Emperor Nero in A.D. 37;
engineer Alexandre Gustave Eiffel in 1832;
oilman J. Paul Getty in 1892;
architect Oscar Niemeyer in 1907;
actor Tim Conway in 1933;
musician Cindy Birdsong (Supremes) in 1939 (age 86);
musician Dave Clark in 1939 (age 86);
actor Don Johnson in 1949 (age 76);
filmmaker Julie Taymor in 1952 (age 73);
Lebanese Prime Minister Nawaf Salam in 1953 (age 72);
musician Paul Simonon (Clash) in 1955 (age 70);
musician Chris Leslie (Fairport Convention) in 1956 (age 69);
musician Tim Reynolds (Dave Matthews Band) in 1957 (age 68);
actor Helen Slater in 1963 (age 62);
actor Paul Kaye in 1964 (age 61);
actor Molly Price in 1966 (age 59);
actor Garrett Wang in 1968 (age 57);
actor Lee Jung-Jae in 1972 (age 53);
actor Stuart Townsend in 1972 (age 53);
actor Adam Brody in 1979 (age 46);
actor Michelle Dockery in 1981 (age 44);
actor Charlie Cox in 1982 (age 43);
actor Camilla Luddington in 1983 (age 42);
actor Daniel Ezra in 1991 (age 34);
musician/actor Alana Haim in 1991 (age 34);
actor Maude Apatow in 1997 (age 28);
actor Erika Tham in 1999 (age 26).
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Today's Over/Under is 5
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Today's Over/Under is 5
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Morning, muchachos.
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
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Today's Birthdays
Those born on this date are under the sign of Sagittarius. They include:
the Roman Emperor Nero in A.D. 37;
engineer Alexandre Gustave Eiffel in 1832;
oilman J. Paul Getty in 1892;
architect Oscar Niemeyer in 1907;
actor Tim Conway in 1933;
musician Cindy Birdsong (Supremes) in 1939 (age 86);
musician Dave Clark in 1939 (age 86);
actor Don Johnson in 1949 (age 76);
filmmaker Julie Taymor in 1952 (age 73);
Lebanese Prime Minister Nawaf Salam in 1953 (age 72);
musician Paul Simonon (Clash) in 1955 (age 70);
musician Chris Leslie (Fairport Convention) in 1956 (age 69);
musician Tim Reynolds (Dave Matthews Band) in 1957 (age 68);
actor Helen Slater in 1963 (age 62);
actor Paul Kaye in 1964 (age 61);
actor Molly Price in 1966 (age 59);
actor Garrett Wang in 1968 (age 57);
actor Lee Jung-Jae in 1972 (age 53);
actor Stuart Townsend in 1972 (age 53);
actor Adam Brody in 1979 (age 46);
actor Michelle Dockery in 1981 (age 44);
actor Charlie Cox in 1982 (age 43);
actor Camilla Luddington in 1983 (age 42);
actor Daniel Ezra in 1991 (age 34);
musician/actor Alana Haim in 1991 (age 34);
actor Maude Apatow in 1997 (age 28);
actor Erika Tham in 1999 (age 26).
Eight.
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Now they're saying Rob Reiner and his wife were found with stab wounds, and that his son is in custody for questioning.
Thankfully, the president has chosen to say something respectful at a time like this.
LALTS, I'm just fucking with you.
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
Still flooding, and another atmospheric river incoming. This one will be weaker, but will aggravate the flooding.
Flooding still hasn't impacted me particularly, other than a brief loss of power on Thursday evening. But it was eerie to see the rivers running so high as I was driving out to Belfair Thursday night. They were down a couple of feet when I returned yesterday. But they'll come back up as the flood control dams release water during the next AR. The devastation is in the Snohomish County lowlands, which is 60 miles north of me, though there's enough in northwest Auburn to make it a challenge for my #1 son to get to work.
We have a couple of friends who are under "be aware" warnings, which precede "evacuate" order, and we've offered to put them up if they get evacuated. We also have some acquaintences who have family who have been victimized by the flooding. Parents of one of my wife's coworkers got physically swept out of their home by a landslide. It didn't kill or significantly injure them, thank God, but her dad had to dig his wife out because she was trapped up to her thighs in the mud. And their home is pretty much toast.
So, no direct impact on us, but it's pretty nasty in other places.
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Now they're saying Rob Reiner and his wife were found with stab wounds, and that his son is in custody for questioning.
Thankfully, the president has chosen to say something respectful at a time like this.
LALTS, I'm just fucking with you.
I defend Trump on a number of policy grounds, and mock the TDS phenomenon. But the guy's verbal and textual vomiting is moronic and gets real tiresome real quick.
Then again, so does Chuckles Schumer's. And Bernie Sanders'. And that of my own governor, Sideshow Bob Ferguson. None of it is new, it's just more immediate now. To slightly edit Umberto Eco - it's an invasion of idiocy.
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Now they're saying Rob Reiner and his wife were found with stab wounds, and that his son is in custody for questioning.
Thankfully, the president has chosen to say something respectful at a time like this.
LALTS, I'm just fucking with you.
I defend Trump on a number of policy grounds, and mock the TDS phenomenon. But the guy's verbal and textual vomiting is moronic and gets real tiresome real quick.
Then again, so does Chuckles Schumer's. And Bernie Sanders'. And that of my own governor, Sideshow Bob Ferguson. None of it is new, it's just more immediate now. To slightly edit Umberto Eco - it's an invasion of idiocy.
I'll just agree to disagree and end it there.
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
Still flooding, and another atmospheric river incoming. This one will be weaker, but will aggravate the flooding.
Flooding still hasn't impacted me particularly, other than a brief loss of power on Thursday evening. But it was eerie to see the rivers running so high as I was driving out to Belfair Thursday night. They were down a couple of feet when I returned yesterday. But they'll come back up as the flood control dams release water during the next AR. The devastation is in the Snohomish County lowlands, which is 60 miles north of me, though there's enough in northwest Auburn to make it a challenge for my #1 son to get to work.
We have a couple of friends who are under "be aware" warnings, which precede "evacuate" order, and we've offered to put them up if they get evacuated. We also have some acquaintences who have family who have been victimized by the flooding. Parents of one of my wife's coworkers got physically swept out of their home by a landslide. It didn't kill or significantly injure them, thank God, but her dad had to dig his wife out because she was trapped up to her thighs in the mud. And their home is pretty much toast.
So, no direct impact on us, but it's pretty nasty in other places.
That's nuts, I cant imagine actually being swept out of the house like it was a waterpark. Pictures out of the affected area look terrible.
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Now they're saying Rob Reiner and his wife were found with stab wounds, and that his son is in custody for questioning.
Thankfully, the president has chosen to say something respectful at a time like this.
LALTS, I'm just fucking with you.
I defend Trump on a number of policy grounds, and mock the TDS phenomenon. But the guy's verbal and textual vomiting is moronic and gets real tiresome real quick.
Then again, so does Chuckles Schumer's. And Bernie Sanders'. And that of my own governor, Sideshow Bob Ferguson. None of it is new, it's just more immediate now. To slightly edit Umberto Eco - it's an invasion of idiocy.
I'll just agree to disagree and end it there.
Before we agree to disagree, I'm unclear what you mean. With what do you disagree? That Schumer, Sanders and Ferguson frequently spout nonsense, or that it isn't new?
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Now they're saying Rob Reiner and his wife were found with stab wounds, and that his son is in custody for questioning.
Thankfully, the president has chosen to say something respectful at a time like this.
LALTS, I'm just fucking with you.
Yowza!
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Now they're saying Rob Reiner and his wife were found with stab wounds, and that his son is in custody for questioning.
Thankfully, the president has chosen to say something respectful at a time like this.
LALTS, I'm just fucking with you.
I defend Trump on a number of policy grounds, and mock the TDS phenomenon. But the guy's verbal and textual vomiting is moronic and gets real tiresome real quick.
Then again, so does Chuckles Schumer's. And Bernie Sanders'. And that of my own governor, Sideshow Bob Ferguson. None of it is new, it's just more immediate now. To slightly edit Umberto Eco - it's an invasion of idiocy.
I'll just agree to disagree and end it there.
Before we agree to disagree, I'm unclear what you mean. With what do you disagree? That Schumer, Sanders and Ferguson frequently spout nonsense, or that it isn't new?
Yeah, no, I'm good, but thank you.
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
Still flooding, and another atmospheric river incoming. This one will be weaker, but will aggravate the flooding.
Flooding still hasn't impacted me particularly, other than a brief loss of power on Thursday evening. But it was eerie to see the rivers running so high as I was driving out to Belfair Thursday night. They were down a couple of feet when I returned yesterday. But they'll come back up as the flood control dams release water during the next AR. The devastation is in the Snohomish County lowlands, which is 60 miles north of me, though there's enough in northwest Auburn to make it a challenge for my #1 son to get to work.
We have a couple of friends who are under "be aware" warnings, which precede "evacuate" order, and we've offered to put them up if they get evacuated. We also have some acquaintences who have family who have been victimized by the flooding. Parents of one of my wife's coworkers got physically swept out of their home by a landslide. It didn't kill or significantly injure them, thank God, but her dad had to dig his wife out because she was trapped up to her thighs in the mud. And their home is pretty much toast.
So, no direct impact on us, but it's pretty nasty in other places.
That's nuts, I cant imagine actually being swept out of the house like it was a waterpark. Pictures out of the affected area look terrible.
I'd submit that's somewhat illusive. This amount of precipitation would be apocalyptic in most of the rest of the United States, because the ground simply can't manage the water. Even Louisiana, which is as experienced with hydrologic phenomena as the rain shadow of the Cascade Range, would struggle because so much of Louisiana is below water level. But as bad as it looks on the news, the problem spots are mostly due to human venality and stupidity. It was completely predictable that one neighborhood in Enumclaw would flood, because it was essentially built on a drained swamp that required two retention ponds. I have friends that lived in that neighborhood, and when they bought their house there I told them that it was potentially problematic. A lot of old-timers in Enumclaw had complained about the development and construction there. In fairness, the flooding there didn't reach the houses themselves, but people were trapped because they couldn't get out of their driveways, unless they happened to own a full-size, lifted 4WD truck (what we call out here a "Clawmobile," after the colloquial nickname for Enumclaw - "The 'Claw").
Point is, it looks uglier on television than it actually is, but that's because they don't give you the perspective that most of the geography either can handle that much water because it has for eons, or that there's a lot of effective engineering that happened in the 20th century to make more of the geography livable. That doesn't mean your tax dollars won't be coming out here for people who made bad decisions about where to build their homes, and that local government made stupid decisions about allowing them, but with all due respect to those who've been devestated, it looks worse on television than it really is.
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
Still flooding, and another atmospheric river incoming. This one will be weaker, but will aggravate the flooding.
Flooding still hasn't impacted me particularly, other than a brief loss of power on Thursday evening. But it was eerie to see the rivers running so high as I was driving out to Belfair Thursday night. They were down a couple of feet when I returned yesterday. But they'll come back up as the flood control dams release water during the next AR. The devastation is in the Snohomish County lowlands, which is 60 miles north of me, though there's enough in northwest Auburn to make it a challenge for my #1 son to get to work.
We have a couple of friends who are under "be aware" warnings, which precede "evacuate" order, and we've offered to put them up if they get evacuated. We also have some acquaintences who have family who have been victimized by the flooding. Parents of one of my wife's coworkers got physically swept out of their home by a landslide. It didn't kill or significantly injure them, thank God, but her dad had to dig his wife out because she was trapped up to her thighs in the mud. And their home is pretty much toast.
So, no direct impact on us, but it's pretty nasty in other places.
That's awful. Prayers for you, your family, friends, and neighbors.
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Now they're saying Rob Reiner and his wife were found with stab wounds, and that his son is in custody for questioning.
Thankfully, the president has chosen to say something respectful at a time like this.
LALTS, I'm just fucking with you.
I defend Trump on a number of policy grounds, and mock the TDS phenomenon. But the guy's verbal and textual vomiting is moronic and gets real tiresome real quick.
Then again, so does Chuckles Schumer's. And Bernie Sanders'. And that of my own governor, Sideshow Bob Ferguson. None of it is new, it's just more immediate now. To slightly edit Umberto Eco - it's an invasion of idiocy.
I'll just agree to disagree and end it there.
Before we agree to disagree, I'm unclear what you mean. With what do you disagree? That Schumer, Sanders and Ferguson frequently spout nonsense, or that it isn't new?
Yeah, no, I'm good, but thank you.
Okay. I wasn't going to argue with you, I was just curious what you meant. I'll presume we disagree about Schumer and Sanders.
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
Still flooding, and another atmospheric river incoming. This one will be weaker, but will aggravate the flooding.
Flooding still hasn't impacted me particularly, other than a brief loss of power on Thursday evening. But it was eerie to see the rivers running so high as I was driving out to Belfair Thursday night. They were down a couple of feet when I returned yesterday. But they'll come back up as the flood control dams release water during the next AR. The devastation is in the Snohomish County lowlands, which is 60 miles north of me, though there's enough in northwest Auburn to make it a challenge for my #1 son to get to work.
We have a couple of friends who are under "be aware" warnings, which precede "evacuate" order, and we've offered to put them up if they get evacuated. We also have some acquaintences who have family who have been victimized by the flooding. Parents of one of my wife's coworkers got physically swept out of their home by a landslide. It didn't kill or significantly injure them, thank God, but her dad had to dig his wife out because she was trapped up to her thighs in the mud. And their home is pretty much toast.
So, no direct impact on us, but it's pretty nasty in other places.
That's nuts, I cant imagine actually being swept out of the house like it was a waterpark. Pictures out of the affected area look terrible.
I'd submit that's somewhat illusive. This amount of precipitation would be apocalyptic in most of the rest of the United States, because the ground simply can't manage the water. Even Louisiana, which is as experienced with hydrologic phenomena as the rain shadow of the Cascade Range, would struggle because so much of Louisiana is below water level. But as bad as it looks on the news, the problem spots are mostly due to human venality and stupidity. It was completely predictable that one neighborhood in Enumclaw would flood, because it was essentially built on a drained swamp that required two retention ponds. I have friends that lived in that neighborhood, and when they bought their house there I told them that it was potentially problematic. A lot of old-timers in Enumclaw had complained about the development and construction there. In fairness, the flooding there didn't reach the houses themselves, but people were trapped because they couldn't get out of their driveways, unless they happened to own a full-size, lifted 4WD truck (what we call out here a "Clawmobile," after the colloquial nickname for Enumclaw - "The 'Claw").
Point is, it looks uglier on television than it actually is, but that's because they don't give you the perspective that most of the geography either can handle that much water because it has for eons, or that there's a lot of effective engineering that happened in the 20th century to make more of the geography livable. That doesn't mean your tax dollars won't be coming out here for people who made bad decisions about where to build their homes, and that local government made stupid decisions about allowing them, but with all due respect to those who've been devestated, it looks worse on television than it really is.
I certainly hope so. Because seeing homes almost completely underwater looks pretty bad.
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
Still flooding, and another atmospheric river incoming. This one will be weaker, but will aggravate the flooding.
Flooding still hasn't impacted me particularly, other than a brief loss of power on Thursday evening. But it was eerie to see the rivers running so high as I was driving out to Belfair Thursday night. They were down a couple of feet when I returned yesterday. But they'll come back up as the flood control dams release water during the next AR. The devastation is in the Snohomish County lowlands, which is 60 miles north of me, though there's enough in northwest Auburn to make it a challenge for my #1 son to get to work.
We have a couple of friends who are under "be aware" warnings, which precede "evacuate" order, and we've offered to put them up if they get evacuated. We also have some acquaintences who have family who have been victimized by the flooding. Parents of one of my wife's coworkers got physically swept out of their home by a landslide. It didn't kill or significantly injure them, thank God, but her dad had to dig his wife out because she was trapped up to her thighs in the mud. And their home is pretty much toast.
So, no direct impact on us, but it's pretty nasty in other places.
That's awful. Prayers for you, your family, friends, and neighbors.
Aw, thanks, T. My clan is not impacted in any significant way, other than some inconvenience. I don't consider inconvenience "significant," and I have a pretty broad definition of inconvenience. Loss of power for five days, or the closure of the bridge across the White River near my home for three months, is an inconvenience. Getting the bottom floor of your home flooded with mud and debris is "significant." ;)
My clan hasn't been hit with anything "significant."
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
Still flooding, and another atmospheric river incoming. This one will be weaker, but will aggravate the flooding.
Flooding still hasn't impacted me particularly, other than a brief loss of power on Thursday evening. But it was eerie to see the rivers running so high as I was driving out to Belfair Thursday night. They were down a couple of feet when I returned yesterday. But they'll come back up as the flood control dams release water during the next AR. The devastation is in the Snohomish County lowlands, which is 60 miles north of me, though there's enough in northwest Auburn to make it a challenge for my #1 son to get to work.
We have a couple of friends who are under "be aware" warnings, which precede "evacuate" order, and we've offered to put them up if they get evacuated. We also have some acquaintences who have family who have been victimized by the flooding. Parents of one of my wife's coworkers got physically swept out of their home by a landslide. It didn't kill or significantly injure them, thank God, but her dad had to dig his wife out because she was trapped up to her thighs in the mud. And their home is pretty much toast.
So, no direct impact on us, but it's pretty nasty in other places.
That's nuts, I cant imagine actually being swept out of the house like it was a waterpark. Pictures out of the affected area look terrible.
I'd submit that's somewhat illusive. This amount of precipitation would be apocalyptic in most of the rest of the United States, because the ground simply can't manage the water. Even Louisiana, which is as experienced with hydrologic phenomena as the rain shadow of the Cascade Range, would struggle because so much of Louisiana is below water level. But as bad as it looks on the news, the problem spots are mostly due to human venality and stupidity. It was completely predictable that one neighborhood in Enumclaw would flood, because it was essentially built on a drained swamp that required two retention ponds. I have friends that lived in that neighborhood, and when they bought their house there I told them that it was potentially problematic. A lot of old-timers in Enumclaw had complained about the development and construction there. In fairness, the flooding there didn't reach the houses themselves, but people were trapped because they couldn't get out of their driveways, unless they happened to own a full-size, lifted 4WD truck (what we call out here a "Clawmobile," after the colloquial nickname for Enumclaw - "The 'Claw").
Point is, it looks uglier on television than it actually is, but that's because they don't give you the perspective that most of the geography either can handle that much water because it has for eons, or that there's a lot of effective engineering that happened in the 20th century to make more of the geography livable. That doesn't mean your tax dollars won't be coming out here for people who made bad decisions about where to build their homes, and that local government made stupid decisions about allowing them, but with all due respect to those who've been devestated, it looks worse on television than it really is.
I certainly hope so. Because seeing homes almost completely underwater looks pretty bad.
When your home's underwater, it's bad, and you don't sit there and think "Well, there's only a few dozen homes underwater, so all things considered..."
What Hurricane Katrina did to Louisiana was bad. This ain't that. This ain't remotely that...though expect Sideshow Bob to insist to FEMA that it is.
But yes...I have a friend who lives on the Green River in Auburn, and I mean literally right on the river. I checked in with him last night, and he's still under "be aware" warnings, which surprised me. I asked him if he needed me to come down and help him fill sandbags. No. I told him if he and his family got evacuated, I'd come help and they could all come here. We're looking out for each other.
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
Still flooding, and another atmospheric river incoming. This one will be weaker, but will aggravate the flooding.
Flooding still hasn't impacted me particularly, other than a brief loss of power on Thursday evening. But it was eerie to see the rivers running so high as I was driving out to Belfair Thursday night. They were down a couple of feet when I returned yesterday. But they'll come back up as the flood control dams release water during the next AR. The devastation is in the Snohomish County lowlands, which is 60 miles north of me, though there's enough in northwest Auburn to make it a challenge for my #1 son to get to work.
We have a couple of friends who are under "be aware" warnings, which precede "evacuate" order, and we've offered to put them up if they get evacuated. We also have some acquaintences who have family who have been victimized by the flooding. Parents of one of my wife's coworkers got physically swept out of their home by a landslide. It didn't kill or significantly injure them, thank God, but her dad had to dig his wife out because she was trapped up to her thighs in the mud. And their home is pretty much toast.
So, no direct impact on us, but it's pretty nasty in other places.
That's nuts, I cant imagine actually being swept out of the house like it was a waterpark. Pictures out of the affected area look terrible.
I'd submit that's somewhat illusive. This amount of precipitation would be apocalyptic in most of the rest of the United States, because the ground simply can't manage the water. Even Louisiana, which is as experienced with hydrologic phenomena as the rain shadow of the Cascade Range, would struggle because so much of Louisiana is below water level. But as bad as it looks on the news, the problem spots are mostly due to human venality and stupidity. It was completely predictable that one neighborhood in Enumclaw would flood, because it was essentially built on a drained swamp that required two retention ponds. I have friends that lived in that neighborhood, and when they bought their house there I told them that it was potentially problematic. A lot of old-timers in Enumclaw had complained about the development and construction there. In fairness, the flooding there didn't reach the houses themselves, but people were trapped because they couldn't get out of their driveways, unless they happened to own a full-size, lifted 4WD truck (what we call out here a "Clawmobile," after the colloquial nickname for Enumclaw - "The 'Claw").
Point is, it looks uglier on television than it actually is, but that's because they don't give you the perspective that most of the geography either can handle that much water because it has for eons, or that there's a lot of effective engineering that happened in the 20th century to make more of the geography livable. That doesn't mean your tax dollars won't be coming out here for people who made bad decisions about where to build their homes, and that local government made stupid decisions about allowing them, but with all due respect to those who've been devestated, it looks worse on television than it really is.
I certainly hope so. Because seeing homes almost completely underwater looks pretty bad.
When your home's underwater, it's bad, and you don't sit there and think "Well, there's only a few dozen homes underwater, so all things considered..."
What Hurricane Katrina did to Louisiana was bad. This ain't that. This ain't remotely that...though expect Sideshow Bob to insist to FEMA that it is.
But yes...I have a friend who lives on the Green River in Auburn, and I mean literally right on the river. I checked in with him last night, and he's still under "be aware" warnings, which surprised me. I asked him if he needed me to come down and help him fill sandbags. No. I told him if he and his family got evacuated, I'd come help and they could all come here. We're looking out for each other.
Definitely nothing like Katrina, I'll agree with you there.
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
Hopefully a little reprieve from the rain.
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Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz. How's things progressing in your area?
Still flooding, and another atmospheric river incoming. This one will be weaker, but will aggravate the flooding.
Flooding still hasn't impacted me particularly, other than a brief loss of power on Thursday evening. But it was eerie to see the rivers running so high as I was driving out to Belfair Thursday night. They were down a couple of feet when I returned yesterday. But they'll come back up as the flood control dams release water during the next AR. The devastation is in the Snohomish County lowlands, which is 60 miles north of me, though there's enough in northwest Auburn to make it a challenge for my #1 son to get to work.
We have a couple of friends who are under "be aware" warnings, which precede "evacuate" order, and we've offered to put them up if they get evacuated. We also have some acquaintences who have family who have been victimized by the flooding. Parents of one of my wife's coworkers got physically swept out of their home by a landslide. It didn't kill or significantly injure them, thank God, but her dad had to dig his wife out because she was trapped up to her thighs in the mud. And their home is pretty much toast.
So, no direct impact on us, but it's pretty nasty in other places.
That's nuts, I cant imagine actually being swept out of the house like it was a waterpark. Pictures out of the affected area look terrible.
I'd submit that's somewhat illusive. This amount of precipitation would be apocalyptic in most of the rest of the United States, because the ground simply can't manage the water. Even Louisiana, which is as experienced with hydrologic phenomena as the rain shadow of the Cascade Range, would struggle because so much of Louisiana is below water level. But as bad as it looks on the news, the problem spots are mostly due to human venality and stupidity. It was completely predictable that one neighborhood in Enumclaw would flood, because it was essentially built on a drained swamp that required two retention ponds. I have friends that lived in that neighborhood, and when they bought their house there I told them that it was potentially problematic. A lot of old-timers in Enumclaw had complained about the development and construction there. In fairness, the flooding there didn't reach the houses themselves, but people were trapped because they couldn't get out of their driveways, unless they happened to own a full-size, lifted 4WD truck (what we call out here a "Clawmobile," after the colloquial nickname for Enumclaw - "The 'Claw").
Point is, it looks uglier on television than it actually is, but that's because they don't give you the perspective that most of the geography either can handle that much water because it has for eons, or that there's a lot of effective engineering that happened in the 20th century to make more of the geography livable. That doesn't mean your tax dollars won't be coming out here for people who made bad decisions about where to build their homes, and that local government made stupid decisions about allowing them, but with all due respect to those who've been devestated, it looks worse on television than it really is.
They paid to rebuild the Jersey shore and Florida I don't know how many times. You can have your share.
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Just about that time. 8 hours down, 32 to go. Hazzuh!
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Looks like a hazzuh lull...
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Looks like a hazzuh lull...
Seriously
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Seemed appropriate for tonight.
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Met an old friend for bbq. It was very nice.
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Met an old friend for bbq. It was very nice.
Even without any ABs, still sounds like a good day.