Post by: CigarBanter on December 01, 2025, 01:25:07 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 05:55:24 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 05:55:59 AM
Victor Sinclair Serie '55' Imperial Connecticut Toro - 10/29.99
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 05:57:28 AM
Door #1 - Ave Maria Reconquista Torpedo (No Coffin/No Sale) - 10/49.99
Door #2 - Christmas in Connecticut Sampler - 20/74.99
Door #3 - Oliva Serie V Melanio Edition Ano 2024 Gran Toro - 10/69.99
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 06:21:48 AM
Morning, boyos. Happy Cyber Monday!Good morning, OneYearOlderDave. I already knew there were no doughnuts. Was there cake?
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 06:41:00 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 06:43:34 AM
Indeed, even have a little left over, assuming the children didn't have at it last night.Morning, boyos. Happy Cyber Monday!Good morning, OneYearOlderDave. I already knew there were no doughnuts. Was there cake?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 06:45:10 AM
Strands #638
“On the ice”
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Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 06:47:30 AM
Puzzle #434
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Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 07:25:19 AM
I've got myself a commute Monday, today. Wish me luck.Condolences.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 08:58:46 AM
Puzzle #904
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Post by: Travellin Dave on December 01, 2025, 09:42:37 AM
Post by: Travellin Dave on December 01, 2025, 09:44:44 AM
Sis:Was curious and hopeful about what the Christmas in Connecticut sampler would be. I shouldn't have been.
Door #1 - Ave Maria Reconquista Torpedo (No Coffin/No Sale) - 10/49.99
Door #2 - Christmas in Connecticut Sampler - 20/74.99
Door #3 - Oliva Serie V Melanio Edition Ano 2024 Gran Toro - 10/69.99
Post by: Travellin Dave on December 01, 2025, 09:45:28 AM
Morning, boyos. Happy Cyber Monday!...and Deanday
...and December first!
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 09:45:39 AM
They didn't even bother to include the breakdown with the listing, so that should tell you what you need to know.Sis:Was curious and hopeful about what the Christmas in Connecticut sampler would be. I shouldn't have been.
Door #1 - Ave Maria Reconquista Torpedo (No Coffin/No Sale) - 10/49.99
Door #2 - Christmas in Connecticut Sampler - 20/74.99
Door #3 - Oliva Serie V Melanio Edition Ano 2024 Gran Toro - 10/69.99
Morning, SamplerRejectDave.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 09:45:51 AM
Made you look!Sis:Was curious and hopeful about what the Christmas in Connecticut sampler would be. I shouldn't have been.
Door #1 - Ave Maria Reconquista Torpedo (No Coffin/No Sale) - 10/49.99
Door #2 - Christmas in Connecticut Sampler - 20/74.99
Door #3 - Oliva Serie V Melanio Edition Ano 2024 Gran Toro - 10/69.99
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 09:46:36 AM
Morning OnTheRoadAgainTony and OlderDave.Good morning, ClemsonDave.
Post by: Travellin Dave on December 01, 2025, 09:53:09 AM
https://halfwheel.com/tatuaje-shipping-sextooth-next-week/457412/
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 09:55:26 AM
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Post by: Travellin Dave on December 01, 2025, 10:01:31 AM
with 30 to follow.
The moon is waxing. Morning stars are Jupiter, Neptune, Saturn, Uranus and Venus. Evening stars are Jupiter, Mars, Mercury, Neptune, Saturn and Uranus.
On this date in history:
In 1891, the game of basketball was invented when James Naismith, a physical education teacher at the International YMCA Training School in Springfield, Mass., put peach baskets at the opposite ends of a gym and gave students soccer balls to toss into them.
In 1903, the world's first drive-in gasoline station opened for business in Pittsburgh.
In 1943, ending a "Big Three" meeting in Tehran, U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and Russian Premier Josef Stalin pledged a concerted effort to defeat Nazi Germany.
In 1950, Gen. Douglas MacArthur, in a cable to United Press, said that his U.N. forces were fighting in Korea against "military odds without precedent in history," and warned that failure to meet the issue there will leave it to "be fought, and possibly lost, on the battlefields of Europe."
In 1953, the first Playboy magazine was published. Marilyn Monroe was on the cover. The magazine temporarily ended the practice of including nudity in its pages in 2016, but reintroduced it one year later.
In 1955, Rosa Parks, a Black woman, was arrested in Montgomery, Ala., for refusing to give up her seat to a white man on a city bus, signaling, along with its resulting bus boycott and related events, the birth of the modern civil rights movement.
In 1959, the United States and the Soviet Union signed a treaty banning military activity on Antarctica, reserving the continent for scientific research.
In 1990, workers broke through in the tunnel under the English Channel for the first time. The Chunnel connecting Britain and France opened four years later.
In 2005, same-sex marriage became legal in South Africa when the country's Constitutional Court ruled that laws banning it were unconstitutional.
In 2011, Iceland became the first Western European country to recognize a Palestinian sovereign state.
In 2016, Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn was formally proclaimed King Maha X of Thailand, the country's first new monarch in seven decades.
In 2017, Michael Flynn, former national security adviser in the Trump administration, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russia's alleged election meddling. President Donald Trump pardoned him in November 2020.
In 2024, President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden on weapons and tax evasion convictions, a complete reversal from his pledge not to interfere with the duties of the U.S. Justice Department.
Post by: Travellin Dave on December 01, 2025, 10:04:39 AM
Those born on this date are under the sign of Sagittarius. They include:
sculptor Marie Tussaud in 1761;
Baseball Hall of Fame member Walter Alston in 1911;
musician Lou Rawls in 1933;
World Golf Hall of Fame member Lee Trevino in 1939 (age 86);
comedian Richard Pryor in 1940;
musician John Densmore (Doors) in 1944 (age 81);
musician Eric Bloom (Blue Oyster Cult) in 1944 (age 81);
musician/actor Bette Midler in 1945 (age 80);
actor Treat Williams in 1951;
actor Deep Roy in 1957 (age 68);
model Carol Alt in 1960 (age 65);
Christine Kangaloo, president of Trinidad and Tobago, in 1961 (age 64);
actor Jeremy Northam in 1961 (age 64);
actor Katherine LaNasa in 1966 (age 59);
actor Néstor Carbonell in 1967 (age 58);
actor Golden Brooks in 1970 (age 55);
comedian Sarah Silverman in 1970 (age 55);
actor David Hornsby in 1975 (age 50);
Matthew Shepard, University of Wyoming student killed because he was gay, in 1976;
actor Dean O'Gorman in 1976 (age 49);
musician Brad Delson (Linkin Park) in 1977 (age 48);
actor Riz Ahmed in 1982 (age 43);
musician Yolandi Visser (Die Antwoord) in 1984 (age 41);
actor Charles Michael Davis in 1984 (age 41);
actor Ilfenesh Hadera in 1985 (age 40);
musician/actor Janelle Monae in 1985 (age 40);
musician Tyler Joseph (Twenty One Pilots) in 1988 (age 37);
actor Zoe Kravitz in 1988 (age 37);
TV personality/animal conservationist Robert Irwin in 2003 (age 22).
Post by: Travellin Dave on December 01, 2025, 10:06:59 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 10:11:21 AM
Today's Over/Under is 106
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 10:16:15 AM
Puzzle #434
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Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 10:18:23 AM
Interesting naming....All the other names were already taken.
https://halfwheel.com/tatuaje-shipping-sextooth-next-week/457412/
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 10:24:59 AM
Today's Birthdays
Those born on this date are under the sign of Sagittarius. They include:
sculptor Marie Tussaud in 1761;
Baseball Hall of Fame member Walter Alston in 1911;
musician Lou Rawls in 1933;
World Golf Hall of Fame member Lee Trevino in 1939 (age 86);
comedian Richard Pryor in 1940;
musician John Densmore (Doors) in 1944 (age 81);
musician Eric Bloom (Blue Oyster Cult) in 1944 (age 81);
musician/actor Bette Midler in 1945 (age 80);
actor Treat Williams in 1951;
actor Deep Roy in 1957 (age 68);
model Carol Alt in 1960 (age 65);
Christine Kangaloo, president of Trinidad and Tobago, in 1961 (age 64);
actor Jeremy Northam in 1961 (age 64);
actor Katherine LaNasa in 1966 (age 59);
actor Néstor Carbonell in 1967 (age 58);
actor Golden Brooks in 1970 (age 55);
comedian Sarah Silverman in 1970 (age 55);
actor David Hornsby in 1975 (age 50);
Matthew Shepard, University of Wyoming student killed because he was gay, in 1976;
actor Dean O'Gorman in 1976 (age 49);
musician Brad Delson (Linkin Park) in 1977 (age 48);
actor Riz Ahmed in 1982 (age 43);
musician Yolandi Visser (Die Antwoord) in 1984 (age 41);
actor Charles Michael Davis in 1984 (age 41);
actor Ilfenesh Hadera in 1985 (age 40);
musician/actor Janelle Monae in 1985 (age 40);
musician Tyler Joseph (Twenty One Pilots) in 1988 (age 37);
actor Zoe Kravitz in 1988 (age 37);
TV personality/animal conservationist Robert Irwin in 2003 (age 22).
Today's Over/Under is 10Nine.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 10:50:12 AM
https://www.cigarpage.com/post-thanksgiving-clearance-mazos-action.html
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 12:03:45 PM
Puzzle #904
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Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 12:42:11 PM
Strands #638
“On the ice”
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Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 02:14:48 PM
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Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 02:15:01 PM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 02:27:26 PM
Nearly time for pickup and groceries. Hazzuh!
Also planning to cut out on the early side today. I have the annual football banquet to attend for my son's team this evening.
Post by: razgueado on December 01, 2025, 04:50:25 PM
Post by: razgueado on December 01, 2025, 04:52:29 PM
Today's BirthdaysEleven.
Those born on this date are under the sign of Sagittarius. They include:
sculptor Marie Tussaud in 1761;
Baseball Hall of Fame member Walter Alston in 1911;
musician Lou Rawls in 1933;
World Golf Hall of Fame member Lee Trevino in 1939 (age 86);
comedian Richard Pryor in 1940;
musician John Densmore (Doors) in 1944 (age 81);
musician Eric Bloom (Blue Oyster Cult) in 1944 (age 81);
musician/actor Bette Midler in 1945 (age 80);
actor Treat Williams in 1951;
actor Deep Roy in 1957 (age 68);
model Carol Alt in 1960 (age 65);
Christine Kangaloo, president of Trinidad and Tobago, in 1961 (age 64);
actor Jeremy Northam in 1961 (age 64);
actor Katherine LaNasa in 1966 (age 59);
actor Néstor Carbonell in 1967 (age 58);
actor Golden Brooks in 1970 (age 55);
comedian Sarah Silverman in 1970 (age 55);
actor David Hornsby in 1975 (age 50);
Matthew Shepard, University of Wyoming student killed because he was gay, in 1976;
actor Dean O'Gorman in 1976 (age 49);
musician Brad Delson (Linkin Park) in 1977 (age 48);
actor Riz Ahmed in 1982 (age 43);
musician Yolandi Visser (Die Antwoord) in 1984 (age 41);
actor Charles Michael Davis in 1984 (age 41);
actor Ilfenesh Hadera in 1985 (age 40);
musician/actor Janelle Monae in 1985 (age 40);
musician Tyler Joseph (Twenty One Pilots) in 1988 (age 37);
actor Zoe Kravitz in 1988 (age 37);
TV personality/animal conservationist Robert Irwin in 2003 (age 22).
Post by: razgueado on December 01, 2025, 04:53:43 PM
I missed it? Happy damned birthday, amigo.Morning, boyos. Happy Cyber Monday!Good morning, OneYearOlderDave. I already knew there were no doughnuts. Was there cake?
Post by: razgueado on December 01, 2025, 05:34:49 PM
Anyway, I had this 2003 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer that I'd owned since 2010. It was a really good vehicle, especially in snow and ice. And it was in really good mechanical shape. During my time of ownership, I had replaced the 4WD transfer case, had the rear end rebuilt, replaced all the wheel bearings. The leather interior had some wear, but no rips or holes, and the sunroof didn't leak. All the electronics worked. Calculating all the money I had into it, excluding fuel and insurance, and including the original purchase price of $7500 and all the repairs I had done, that vehicle cost me about $4.00 a day for fifteen years. $120 a month. I'm betting y'all would love to have a vehicle that only cost that. But it began misfiring. Time for a timing belt. On that vehicle, that's a repair that crosses my threshold between repair or dispose of. You basically have to pull the engine out to do the job.
It was in too good a shape to just junk it. See the attached pics of the vehicle as I sold it. I decided to see what I could get out of it. I sold it to a guy for $600. I reported it sold to the state DMV minutes after selling it. With me so far?
Here's where the story turns ugly. NOW I know I should have removed the license plates. NOW I know why you don't sell to someone who won't show you a driver's license. But I confess none of that occurred to me. I don't do this often. And it's not like it's required by law here. I got a name, I got a bill of sale, I got an address. About 4 weeks later I got the first of several photo-enforced infraction notices. Then a couple of toll charges. All that's easy enough to quash. I just sent the confirmation email from the state that I'd reported it sold.
Last Tuesday I got a Vehicle Impound Notice from a towing company in Auburn. The vehicle had been abandoned at a car wash in Kent. They'd towed it. I was still the registerd owner. Out here, such impound notices are filed through the state. The towing companies have a computer connection to the DMV. So I called the towing company, explained the situation. Gave them the confirmation number of my report of sale. They logged in, then they said they could see that I'd been charged for reporting the sale, but nothing else. The report of sale was incomplete, and if I couldn't prove to them that the state agreed that I'd reported the sale in a timely and complete fashion, I was going to be on the hook for whatever they couldn't recoup by auctioning the vehicle, to the tune of $120 a day.
So I called DMV. I talked to Mike, who was VERY helpful. He said he didn't know what they were talking about, that he could see the report of sale just fine. But he linked me to the Public Records Unit, so that I could put in a request to get an official copy of it. I put in the Public Records request. This morning I got the document, delivered electronically. I called the towing company. I said I've got the document, could I email it and save myself a drive down to Auburn? "Well, it's gotta be an official document." I explained it was as official as could be gotten from the state. He said, "I still don't see it in the system as a complete report." Dude, sez I, DMV says it's complete, Public Records says it's complete. I'm looking at the official document from the state, in a PDF format, that says it's complete. If you can't see it on your computer, then what you have is a technical problem you need to take up with Washington Technology Services. As a tech guy for the state Dept of Health, I work with those folks all the time. I can get you hooked up with someone, and they can help fix you. Or I can call my attorney, and I'll have HIM resolve this, because that vehicle is not my problem.
"Well, I need to see what you've got. Email it." So I did. He looks it over for a few minutes, checks it with some other people at the towing shop, then comes back on. "Okay, you're going to get another mail notice we sent on Friday. You can disregard that."
Thank all that is holy.
But that was several hours of my morning.
Lessons learned.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 05:38:19 PM
Glad I left at 4. It took me over 90 minutes to get home. The banquet is only 10 minutes from my house, so it shouldn't be an issue.Nearly time for pickup and groceries. Hazzuh!
Also planning to cut out on the early side today. I have the annual football banquet to attend for my son's team this evening.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 05:39:40 PM
Afternoon, muchachos. Sorry for the late check-in. I'll post-whore the explanation.Hello there, Bret. Quick pitstop at home and right back out the door. I'll read your long post a little later.
Post by: razgueado on December 01, 2025, 05:48:29 PM
Only bother if you're bored. It was just an excuse to post-whore.Afternoon, muchachos. Sorry for the late check-in. I'll post-whore the explanation.Hello there, Bret. Quick pitstop at home and right back out the door. I'll read your long post a little later.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 06:17:12 PM
GraciasI missed it? Happy damned birthday, amigo.Morning, boyos. Happy Cyber Monday!Good morning, OneYearOlderDave. I already knew there were no doughnuts. Was there cake?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 06:22:29 PM
So...on September 6 I sold a car. Oddly enough, I don't have a lot of experience selling cars. I tend to drive them until the wheels are falling off or the engines are failing, and then I donate or junk them. I've only ever bought one new vehicle in my life, and don't anticipate doing so again. And I drove THAT until it was falling apart and donated it. I do take care of them, it's not like I drive junk heaps around. But I hate car payments.That was a hell of a tale, glad it ended up as a happy ending. Sounds like it could've easily gone the other way.
Anyway, I had this 2003 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer that I'd owned since 2010. It was a really good vehicle, especially in snow and ice. And it was in really good mechanical shape. During my time of ownership, I had replaced the 4WD transfer case, had the rear end rebuilt, replaced all the wheel bearings. The leather interior had some wear, but no rips or holes. All the electronics worked. Calculating all the money I had into it, excluding fuel and insurance, and including the original purchase price of $7500 and all the repairs I had done, that vehicle cost me about $4.00 a day for fifteen years. $120 a month. I'm betting y'all would love to have a vehicle that only cost that. But it began misfiring. Time for a timing belt. On that vehicle, that's a repair that crosses my threshold between repair or dispose of. You basically have to pull the engine out to do the job.
It was in too good a shape to just junk it. I decided to see what I could get out of it. I sold it to a guy for $600. I reported it sold to the state DMV minutes after selling it. With me so far?
Here's where the story turns ugly. NOW I know I should have removed the license plates. NOW I know why you don't sell to someone who won't show you a driver's license. But I confess none of that occurred to me. I don't do this often. And it's not like it's required by law here. I got a name, I got a bill of sale, I got an address. About 4 weeks later I got the first of several photo-enforced infraction notices. Then a couple of toll charges. All that's easy enough to quash. I just sent the confirmation email from the state that I'd reported it sold.
Last Tuesday I got a Vehicle Impound Notice from a towing company in Auburn. The vehicle had been abandoned at a car wash in Kent. They'd towed it. I was still the registerd owner. Out here, such impound notices are filed through the state. The towing companies have a computer connection to the DMV. So I called the towing company, explained the situation. Gave them the confirmation number of my report of sale. They logged in, then they said they could see that I'd been charged for reporting the sale, but nothing else. The report of sale was incomplete, and if I couldn't prove to them that the state agreed that I'd reported the sale in a timely and complete fashion, I was going to be on the hook for whatever they couldn't recoup by auctioning the vehicle, to the tune of $120 a day.
So I called DMV. I talked to Mike, who was VERY helpful. He said he didn't know what they were talking about, that he could see the report of sale just fine. But he linked me to the Public Records Unit, so that I could put in a request to get an official copy of it. I put in the Public Records request. This morning I got the document, delivered electronically. I called the towing company. I said I've got the document, could I email it and save myself a drive down to Auburn? "Well, it's gotta be an official document." I explained it was as official as could be gotten from the state. He said, "I still don't see it in the system as a complete report." Dude, sez I, DMV says it's complete, Public Records says it's complete. I'm looking at the official document from the state, in a PDF format, that says it's complete. If you can't see it on your computer, then what you have is a technical problem you need to take up with Washington Technology Services. As a tech guy for the state Dept of Health, I work with those folks all the time. I can get you hooked up with someone, and they can help fix you. Or I can call my attorney, and I'll have HIM resolve this, because that vehicle is not my problem.
"Well, I need to see what you've got. Email it." So I did. He looks it over for a few minutes, checks it with some other people at the towing shop, then comes back on. "Okay, you're going to get another mail notice we sent on Friday. You can disregard that."
Thank all that is holy.
But that was several hours of my morning.
Lessons learned.
Post by: razgueado on December 01, 2025, 06:47:56 PM
I'm not betting it's over yet. With my luck, somebody's Ring camera captured it being used in a drive-by shooting or something. But I've got my shit together, and my attorney on notice. In the immortal words of John Mellencamp, "Some people ain't no damned good, you can't trust 'em, you can't love 'em. No good deed goes unpunished..."So...on September 6 I sold a car. Oddly enough, I don't have a lot of experience selling cars. I tend to drive them until the wheels are falling off or the engines are failing, and then I donate or junk them. I've only ever bought one new vehicle in my life, and don't anticipate doing so again. And I drove THAT until it was falling apart and donated it. I do take care of them, it's not like I drive junk heaps around. But I hate car payments.That was a hell of a tale, glad it ended up as a happy ending. Sounds like it could've easily gone the other way.
Anyway, I had this 2003 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer that I'd owned since 2010. It was a really good vehicle, especially in snow and ice. And it was in really good mechanical shape. During my time of ownership, I had replaced the 4WD transfer case, had the rear end rebuilt, replaced all the wheel bearings. The leather interior had some wear, but no rips or holes. All the electronics worked. Calculating all the money I had into it, excluding fuel and insurance, and including the original purchase price of $7500 and all the repairs I had done, that vehicle cost me about $4.00 a day for fifteen years. $120 a month. I'm betting y'all would love to have a vehicle that only cost that. But it began misfiring. Time for a timing belt. On that vehicle, that's a repair that crosses my threshold between repair or dispose of. You basically have to pull the engine out to do the job.
It was in too good a shape to just junk it. I decided to see what I could get out of it. I sold it to a guy for $600. I reported it sold to the state DMV minutes after selling it. With me so far?
Here's where the story turns ugly. NOW I know I should have removed the license plates. NOW I know why you don't sell to someone who won't show you a driver's license. But I confess none of that occurred to me. I don't do this often. And it's not like it's required by law here. I got a name, I got a bill of sale, I got an address. About 4 weeks later I got the first of several photo-enforced infraction notices. Then a couple of toll charges. All that's easy enough to quash. I just sent the confirmation email from the state that I'd reported it sold.
Last Tuesday I got a Vehicle Impound Notice from a towing company in Auburn. The vehicle had been abandoned at a car wash in Kent. They'd towed it. I was still the registerd owner. Out here, such impound notices are filed through the state. The towing companies have a computer connection to the DMV. So I called the towing company, explained the situation. Gave them the confirmation number of my report of sale. They logged in, then they said they could see that I'd been charged for reporting the sale, but nothing else. The report of sale was incomplete, and if I couldn't prove to them that the state agreed that I'd reported the sale in a timely and complete fashion, I was going to be on the hook for whatever they couldn't recoup by auctioning the vehicle, to the tune of $120 a day.
So I called DMV. I talked to Mike, who was VERY helpful. He said he didn't know what they were talking about, that he could see the report of sale just fine. But he linked me to the Public Records Unit, so that I could put in a request to get an official copy of it. I put in the Public Records request. This morning I got the document, delivered electronically. I called the towing company. I said I've got the document, could I email it and save myself a drive down to Auburn? "Well, it's gotta be an official document." I explained it was as official as could be gotten from the state. He said, "I still don't see it in the system as a complete report." Dude, sez I, DMV says it's complete, Public Records says it's complete. I'm looking at the official document from the state, in a PDF format, that says it's complete. If you can't see it on your computer, then what you have is a technical problem you need to take up with Washington Technology Services. As a tech guy for the state Dept of Health, I work with those folks all the time. I can get you hooked up with someone, and they can help fix you. Or I can call my attorney, and I'll have HIM resolve this, because that vehicle is not my problem.
"Well, I need to see what you've got. Email it." So I did. He looks it over for a few minutes, checks it with some other people at the towing shop, then comes back on. "Okay, you're going to get another mail notice we sent on Friday. You can disregard that."
Thank all that is holy.
But that was several hours of my morning.
Lessons learned.
Maybe it's time I implemented the advice oil tycoon T Boone Pickens once gave me when I was twelve. How that encounter came to be is another long story, that I'll only bore you with if you ask. I was admiring his shiny new Cadillac. He said, "Sonny, you take my advice when you grow up. I buy a new Caddie every year, and a year later, without fail, I trade it in for the next one. I guarantee you in the long run that's the cheapest way to drive."
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 07:17:53 PM
You're probably right. At least you've got your ducks in a row now.I'm not betting it's over yet. With my luck, somebody's Ring camera captured it being used in a drive-by shooting or something. But I've got my shit together, and my attorney on notice. In the immortal words of John Mellencamp, "Some people ain't no damned good, you can't trust 'em, you can't love 'em. No good deed goes unpunished..."So...on September 6 I sold a car. Oddly enough, I don't have a lot of experience selling cars. I tend to drive them until the wheels are falling off or the engines are failing, and then I donate or junk them. I've only ever bought one new vehicle in my life, and don't anticipate doing so again. And I drove THAT until it was falling apart and donated it. I do take care of them, it's not like I drive junk heaps around. But I hate car payments.That was a hell of a tale, glad it ended up as a happy ending. Sounds like it could've easily gone the other way.
Anyway, I had this 2003 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer that I'd owned since 2010. It was a really good vehicle, especially in snow and ice. And it was in really good mechanical shape. During my time of ownership, I had replaced the 4WD transfer case, had the rear end rebuilt, replaced all the wheel bearings. The leather interior had some wear, but no rips or holes. All the electronics worked. Calculating all the money I had into it, excluding fuel and insurance, and including the original purchase price of $7500 and all the repairs I had done, that vehicle cost me about $4.00 a day for fifteen years. $120 a month. I'm betting y'all would love to have a vehicle that only cost that. But it began misfiring. Time for a timing belt. On that vehicle, that's a repair that crosses my threshold between repair or dispose of. You basically have to pull the engine out to do the job.
It was in too good a shape to just junk it. I decided to see what I could get out of it. I sold it to a guy for $600. I reported it sold to the state DMV minutes after selling it. With me so far?
Here's where the story turns ugly. NOW I know I should have removed the license plates. NOW I know why you don't sell to someone who won't show you a driver's license. But I confess none of that occurred to me. I don't do this often. And it's not like it's required by law here. I got a name, I got a bill of sale, I got an address. About 4 weeks later I got the first of several photo-enforced infraction notices. Then a couple of toll charges. All that's easy enough to quash. I just sent the confirmation email from the state that I'd reported it sold.
Last Tuesday I got a Vehicle Impound Notice from a towing company in Auburn. The vehicle had been abandoned at a car wash in Kent. They'd towed it. I was still the registerd owner. Out here, such impound notices are filed through the state. The towing companies have a computer connection to the DMV. So I called the towing company, explained the situation. Gave them the confirmation number of my report of sale. They logged in, then they said they could see that I'd been charged for reporting the sale, but nothing else. The report of sale was incomplete, and if I couldn't prove to them that the state agreed that I'd reported the sale in a timely and complete fashion, I was going to be on the hook for whatever they couldn't recoup by auctioning the vehicle, to the tune of $120 a day.
So I called DMV. I talked to Mike, who was VERY helpful. He said he didn't know what they were talking about, that he could see the report of sale just fine. But he linked me to the Public Records Unit, so that I could put in a request to get an official copy of it. I put in the Public Records request. This morning I got the document, delivered electronically. I called the towing company. I said I've got the document, could I email it and save myself a drive down to Auburn? "Well, it's gotta be an official document." I explained it was as official as could be gotten from the state. He said, "I still don't see it in the system as a complete report." Dude, sez I, DMV says it's complete, Public Records says it's complete. I'm looking at the official document from the state, in a PDF format, that says it's complete. If you can't see it on your computer, then what you have is a technical problem you need to take up with Washington Technology Services. As a tech guy for the state Dept of Health, I work with those folks all the time. I can get you hooked up with someone, and they can help fix you. Or I can call my attorney, and I'll have HIM resolve this, because that vehicle is not my problem.
"Well, I need to see what you've got. Email it." So I did. He looks it over for a few minutes, checks it with some other people at the towing shop, then comes back on. "Okay, you're going to get another mail notice we sent on Friday. You can disregard that."
Thank all that is holy.
But that was several hours of my morning.
Lessons learned.
Maybe it's time I implemented the advice oil tycoon T Boone Pickens once gave me when I was twelve. How that encounter came to be is another long story, that I'll only bore you with if you ask. I was admiring his shiny new Cadillac. He said, "Sonny, you take my advice when you grow up. I buy a new Caddie every year, and a year later, without fail, I trade it in for the next one. I guarantee you in the long run that's the cheapest way to drive."
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 07:19:30 PM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 09:15:38 PM
Glad I left at 4. It took me over 90 minutes to get home. The banquet is only 10 minutes from my house, so it shouldn't be an issue.Nearly time for pickup and groceries. Hazzuh!
Also planning to cut out on the early side today. I have the annual football banquet to attend for my son's team this evening.
My boy earned his varsity letter, and got Rookie of the Year. And here I was recording the JV coach waxing on for 6 minutes before I realized, Joseph was being called up with the varsity team.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/DynUcP4E9ShSv8o37 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/DynUcP4E9ShSv8o37)
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 09:54:43 PM
So...on September 6 I sold a car. Oddly enough, I don't have a lot of experience selling cars. I tend to drive them until the wheels are falling off or the engines are failing, and then I donate or junk them. I've only ever bought one new vehicle in my life, and don't anticipate doing so again. And I drove THAT until it was falling apart and donated it. I do take care of them, it's not like I drive junk heaps around. But I hate car payments.That's why I won't sell privately. It's too much hassle. I'm probably leaving money on the table, but I'd rather just trade it in. Sheesh.
Anyway, I had this 2003 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer that I'd owned since 2010. It was a really good vehicle, especially in snow and ice. And it was in really good mechanical shape. During my time of ownership, I had replaced the 4WD transfer case, had the rear end rebuilt, replaced all the wheel bearings. The leather interior had some wear, but no rips or holes, and the sunroof didn't leak. All the electronics worked. Calculating all the money I had into it, excluding fuel and insurance, and including the original purchase price of $7500 and all the repairs I had done, that vehicle cost me about $4.00 a day for fifteen years. $120 a month. I'm betting y'all would love to have a vehicle that only cost that. But it began misfiring. Time for a timing belt. On that vehicle, that's a repair that crosses my threshold between repair or dispose of. You basically have to pull the engine out to do the job.
It was in too good a shape to just junk it. See the attached pics of the vehicle as I sold it. I decided to see what I could get out of it. I sold it to a guy for $600. I reported it sold to the state DMV minutes after selling it. With me so far?
Here's where the story turns ugly. NOW I know I should have removed the license plates. NOW I know why you don't sell to someone who won't show you a driver's license. But I confess none of that occurred to me. I don't do this often. And it's not like it's required by law here. I got a name, I got a bill of sale, I got an address. About 4 weeks later I got the first of several photo-enforced infraction notices. Then a couple of toll charges. All that's easy enough to quash. I just sent the confirmation email from the state that I'd reported it sold.
Last Tuesday I got a Vehicle Impound Notice from a towing company in Auburn. The vehicle had been abandoned at a car wash in Kent. They'd towed it. I was still the registerd owner. Out here, such impound notices are filed through the state. The towing companies have a computer connection to the DMV. So I called the towing company, explained the situation. Gave them the confirmation number of my report of sale. They logged in, then they said they could see that I'd been charged for reporting the sale, but nothing else. The report of sale was incomplete, and if I couldn't prove to them that the state agreed that I'd reported the sale in a timely and complete fashion, I was going to be on the hook for whatever they couldn't recoup by auctioning the vehicle, to the tune of $120 a day.
So I called DMV. I talked to Mike, who was VERY helpful. He said he didn't know what they were talking about, that he could see the report of sale just fine. But he linked me to the Public Records Unit, so that I could put in a request to get an official copy of it. I put in the Public Records request. This morning I got the document, delivered electronically. I called the towing company. I said I've got the document, could I email it and save myself a drive down to Auburn? "Well, it's gotta be an official document." I explained it was as official as could be gotten from the state. He said, "I still don't see it in the system as a complete report." Dude, sez I, DMV says it's complete, Public Records says it's complete. I'm looking at the official document from the state, in a PDF format, that says it's complete. If you can't see it on your computer, then what you have is a technical problem you need to take up with Washington Technology Services. As a tech guy for the state Dept of Health, I work with those folks all the time. I can get you hooked up with someone, and they can help fix you. Or I can call my attorney, and I'll have HIM resolve this, because that vehicle is not my problem.
"Well, I need to see what you've got. Email it." So I did. He looks it over for a few minutes, checks it with some other people at the towing shop, then comes back on. "Okay, you're going to get another mail notice we sent on Friday. You can disregard that."
Thank all that is holy.
But that was several hours of my morning.
Lessons learned.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on December 01, 2025, 09:55:49 PM
Next round of weather coming through overnight. Morning school commute should be interesting.We're supposed to get the same overnight.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on December 01, 2025, 10:06:53 PM
Nice!Glad I left at 4. It took me over 90 minutes to get home. The banquet is only 10 minutes from my house, so it shouldn't be an issue.Nearly time for pickup and groceries. Hazzuh!
Also planning to cut out on the early side today. I have the annual football banquet to attend for my son's team this evening.
My boy earned his varsity letter, and got Rookie of the Year. And here I was recording the JV coach waxing on for 6 minutes before I realized, Joseph was being called up with the varsity team.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/DynUcP4E9ShSv8o37 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/DynUcP4E9ShSv8o37)