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Title: 6/28/2022
Post by: CigarBanter on June 28, 2022, 12:00:15 AM
Happy Tuesday! In between insults we'll occasionally discuss cigars.  Join in and perhaps learn something along the way. Warning: don't proceed if you have thin skin but don't be afraid to post either... And welcome aboard!
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 01:27:12 AM
Permit me to do a little political analysis. I promise I will NOT go into ethics or morality.

The SCOTUS decision striking down Roe v Wade, in the long run, is actually a win for abortion rights supporters. I read the decision, and it all but telegraphs this: "Pass federal legislation. If that legislation is challenged here, we will reiterate that the Supreme Court is staying out of it unless it expressly contradicts the constitution."

There is nothing in the constitution that legislation to legalize abortion at the Federal level is going to contradict. The closest you could get would be the Fifth Amendment, and certainly someone will try to challenge legalized abortion on that grounds. But it won't work, for a very simple reason - regardless of when life begins, citizenship - and constitutional rights - begin at birth, and end at death. And there is no Supreme Court that is going to elevate the rights of a fetus over the rights of a pregnant woman. I know that Pro-Choice activists are screaming this is what just happened, but it isn't. Read the decision. This case simply says the Supreme Court is not going to extrapolate rights that aren't defined in the constitution. If you want to put rights into the constitution, you have to do it by the amendment process.

This isn't even a state-rights issue. If pro-abortion forces get legislation through Congress - and mark my words they will - the very logic in this decision that struck down Roe will have to be applied to say the legislation is constitutional. There is nothing in the constitution that says there is a right to an abortion, and by the same token there is nothing in the constitution that can be construed to proscribe abortion. So, pass Federal legislation and get a president to sign it, and the discussion, from a legal standpoint, is effectively over, under the 10th Amendment and the 14th Amendment. And then, if you really want to establish that abortion is a civil right, amend the constitution.

Roe tried to make a 14th Amendment case to invalidate state laws. It was a weak argument, and I've talked to any number of pro-choice lawyers (we have a bunch of them at WADOH) and even they say it was weak. But an activist court endorsed it.

No matter how one feels about the Roberts court, when you get down to the details, this court handed abortion-rights supporters a huge win. The court has advertised that they will not oppose Federal abortion legislation.

This is just political and legal analysis. I'm not taking any ethical stance here. That would be a discussion for another time, and probably not here. All I'm saying is this decision is not the win that anti-abortion forces wished for, and it is not the disaster that pro-abortion forces say it is. Quite the opposite.

There is now a freshly-paved highway and the political will to establish legalized abortion at the Federal level, and the Religious Right will have zero recourse to stop it. Some states will try to make a 10th Amendment case against it, but it will fail. The Supreme Court has taken itself out of that war.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 03:59:02 AM
Heh. That third guess was just a stab in the dark. Night, lads.

Wordle 374 3/6


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Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 05:31:19 AM
Morning, all. Happy twofer.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 05:31:47 AM
Joe:

Diesel Shorty - 10/36.50
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 05:32:46 AM
Sis:

Door #1 - Man O' War Virtue Torpedo - 10/37.99

Door #2 - Gurkha Yakuza Toro - 10/39.99

Door #3 - Padilla Dominus Double Robusto - 10/39.99
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 05:33:28 AM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 06:03:57 AM
Pretty easy heardle today.

#Heardle #123

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https://www.heardle.app
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 06:05:07 AM
Not so much on the filmle. Though, I'm still at 100%.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 06:07:20 AM
Phew.

Wordle 374 6/6*

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Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 06:15:39 AM
Good morning, banter friends.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 06:17:06 AM


Not so much on the filmle. Though, I'm still at 100%.

Who isn't?
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 06:23:04 AM
A brisk 54 out right now. Too chilly to open the windows down here yet.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 06:42:48 AM
Pretty easy heardle today.

#Heardle #123

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https://www.heardle.app
#Heardle #123

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Indeed.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 06:43:51 AM
A brisk 54 out right now. Too chilly to open the windows down here yet.
Currently 65° and beautiful. Commute day for me.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 06:44:28 AM
A brisk 54 out right now. Too chilly to open the windows down here yet.
Currently 65° and beautiful. Commute day for me.
Enjoy the masses.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 06:49:25 AM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 06:55:41 AM
I guessed this math equation in 4/6 tries.

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Can you guess this equation?
https://numberle.org/?challenge=MysyKjIqNz0zMQ
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 06:59:13 AM
I guessed this math equation in 4/6 tries.

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Can you guess this equation?
https://numberle.org/?challenge=MysyKjIqNz0zMQ
I guessed this math equation in 3/6 tries.

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Can you guess this equation?
https://numberle.org/?challenge=MysyKjIqNz0zMQ
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 07:13:51 AM
Not so much on the filmle. Though, I'm still at 100%.
Filmle
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Noticed an actor and took a wild last guess. Never saw the movie.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 08:26:49 AM
Phew.

Wordle 374 6/6*

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Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 09:03:37 AM
Today would have been my parents' 64th wedding anniversary. After 7 years, I'd like to think they're celebrating together again this year. May they both rest in peace.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 09:16:12 AM
Today would have been my parents' 64th wedding anniversary. After 7 years, I'd like to think they're celebrating together again this year. May they both rest in peace.
At the very least, they're celebrating in your memory, and I think that counts for something.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 09:28:37 AM
Permit me to do a little political analysis. I promise I will NOT go into ethics or morality.

The SCOTUS decision striking down Roe v Wade, in the long run, is actually a win for abortion rights supporters. I read the decision, and it all but telegraphs this: "Pass federal legislation. If that legislation is challenged here, we will reiterate that the Supreme Court is staying out of it unless it expressly contradicts the constitution."

There is nothing in the constitution that legislation to legalize abortion at the Federal level is going to contradict. The closest you could get would be the Fifth Amendment, and certainly someone will try to challenge legalized abortion on that grounds. But it won't work, for a very simple reason - regardless of when life begins, citizenship - and constitutional rights - begin at birth, and end at death. And there is no Supreme Court that is going to elevate the rights of a fetus over the rights of a pregnant woman. I know that Pro-Choice activists are screaming this is what just happened, but it isn't. Read the decision. This case simply says the Supreme Court is not going to extrapolate rights that aren't defined in the constitution. If you want to put rights into the constitution, you have to do it by the amendment process.

This isn't even a state-rights issue. If pro-abortion forces get legislation through Congress - and mark my words they will - the very logic in this decision that struck down Roe will have to be applied to say the legislation is constitutional. There is nothing in the constitution that says there is a right to an abortion, and by the same token there is nothing in the constitution that can be construed to proscribe abortion. So, pass Federal legislation and get a president to sign it, and the discussion, from a legal standpoint, is effectively over, under the 10th Amendment and the 14th Amendment. And then, if you really want to establish that abortion is a civil right, amend the constitution.

Roe tried to make a 14th Amendment case to invalidate state laws. It was a weak argument, and I've talked to any number of pro-choice lawyers (we have a bunch of them at WADOH) and even they say it was weak. But an activist court endorsed it.

No matter how one feels about the Roberts court, when you get down to the details, this court handed abortion-rights supporters a huge win. The court has advertised that they will not oppose Federal abortion legislation.

This is just political and legal analysis. I'm not taking any ethical stance here. That would be a discussion for another time, and probably not here. All I'm saying is this decision is not the win that anti-abortion forces wished for, and it is not the disaster that pro-abortion forces say it is. Quite the opposite.

There is now a freshly-paved highway and the political will to establish legalized abortion at the Federal level, and the Religious Right will have zero recourse to stop it. Some states will try to make a 10th Amendment case against it, but it will fail. The Supreme Court has taken itself out of that war.
Interesting late night analysis Mr. Raz.  Overall I agree with your analysis of the decision from a legal perspective, but not so much for the "backdoor win" scenario.  That would require congress to do something, which they are generally unable to do.  Politicians are just as happy to keep this issue up in the air so they can make promises over and over in each election cycle.  If this were put to a popular vote, it would have been decided long ago,

In any case, while this plays out, there is going to be a lot of collateral damage. 
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 09:29:19 AM
Today would have been my parents' 64th wedding anniversary. After 7 years, I'd like to think they're celebrating together again this year. May they both rest in peace.
There ya go.  Lets lift a glass to that!
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 09:31:16 AM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 09:37:40 AM
Pretty easy heardle today.

#Heardle #123

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https://www.heardle.app
Yup!  It's either one or none...
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 09:38:26 AM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I'm not even sure why I remember that specifically, but it definitely stuck with me.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 09:49:55 AM
Phew.

Wordle 374 6/6*

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Took me 5 today.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 09:54:47 AM
Today is Tuesday, June 28, the 179th day of 2022.
There are 186 days left in the year.



Today’s Highlights in History:

On June 28, 1919, the Treaty of Versailles (vehr-SY’) was signed in France, ending the First World War.

On this date:

In 1838, Britain’s Queen Victoria was crowned in Westminster Abbey.

In 1863, during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln appointed Maj. Gen. George G. Meade the new commander of the Army of the Potomac, following the resignation of Maj. Gen. Joseph Hooker.

In 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife, Sophie, were shot to death in Sarajevo (sah-ruh-YAY’-voh) by Serb nationalist Gavrilo Princip (gavh-REE’-loh PREEN’-seep) — an act that sparked World War I.

In 1939, Pan American Airways began regular trans-Atlantic air service with a flight that departed New York for Marseilles (mar-SAY’), France.

In 1940, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the Alien Registration Act, also known as the Smith Act, which required adult foreigners residing in the U.S. to be registered and fingerprinted.

In 1950, North Korean forces captured Seoul (sohl), the capital of South Korea.

In 1978, the Supreme Court ordered the University of California-Davis Medical School to admit Allan Bakke (BAH’-kee), a white man who argued he’d been a victim of reverse racial discrimination.

In 1994, President Bill Clinton became the first chief executive in U.S. history to set up a personal legal defense fund and ask Americans to contribute to it.

In 2000, seven months after he was cast adrift in the Florida Straits, Elian Gonzalez was returned to his native Cuba.

In 2010, the Supreme Court ruled, 5-4, that Americans had the right to own a gun for self-defense anywhere they lived.

In 2013, the four plaintiffs in the U.S. Supreme Court case that overturned California’s same-sex marriage ban tied the knot, just hours after a federal appeals court freed gay couples to obtain marriage licenses in the state for the first time in 4 1/2 years.

In 2019, avowed white supremacist James Alex Fields, who deliberately drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing a young woman and injuring dozens, apologized to his victims before being sentenced to life in prison on federal hate crime charges.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 09:56:48 AM
Ten years ago: The Affordable Care Act narrowly survived, 5-4, an election-year battle at the U.S. Supreme Court with the improbable help of conservative Chief Justice John Roberts. Attorney General Eric Holder became the first sitting Cabinet member held in contempt of Congress, a rebuke pushed by Republicans seeking to unearth the facts behind a bungled gun-tracking operation known as Fast and Furious. (The vote was 255-67, with more than 100 Democrats boycotting.) Katie Holmes filed for divorce from Tom Cruise after five years of marriage.


Five years ago: Republican donors paid $35,000 apiece to hear a familiar message from President Donald Trump: that the media, particularly CNN, kept trying to take him down, and yet Republicans just kept on winning elections. ABC and a South Dakota meat producer announced a settlement in a $1.9 billion lawsuit against the network over its reports on a beef product that critics dubbed “pink slime.”


One year ago: Temperatures in parts of the Pacific Northwest wiped out records that had been set the day before, with Seattle reaching 108 degrees by evening; meteorologists said the record-breaking heat was caused by a dome of high pressure, and worsened by human-caused climate change. Big-wave surfer Greg “Da Bull” Noll died at 84; he’d become a surfing legend by combining an outsized personality with the courage and skill to ride bigger, more powerful waves than anyone had attempted before.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 09:59:17 AM
Today’s Birthdays:

Comedian-movie director Mel Brooks is 96.
Comedian-impressionist John Byner is 85.
Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is 84.
Rock musician Dave Knights (Procul Harum) is 77.
Actor Bruce Davison is 76.
Actor Kathy Bates is 74.
Actor Alice Krige is 68.
College and Pro Football Hall of Famer John Elway is 62.
Jazz singer Tierney Sutton is 59.
Actor Jessica Hecht is 57.
Rock musician Saul Davies (James) is 57.
 Actor Mary Stuart Masterson is 56.
Actor John Cusack is 56.
Actor Gil Bellows is 55.
Actor-singer Danielle Brisebois is 53.
Actor Tichina Arnold is 53.
Actor Steve Burton is 52.
Entrepreneur Elon Musk is 51.
Actor Alessandro Nivola (nih-VOH’-luh) is 50.
Actor Camille Guaty is 46.
Rock musician Tim Nordwind (OK Go) is 46.
Rock musician Mark Stoermer (The Killers) is 45.
Country singer Big Vinny Hickerson (Trailer Choir) is 39.
Country singer Kellie Pickler is 36.
Jamaican Olympic track star Elaine Thompson-Herah is 30.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 09:59:46 AM
Today's Over/Under is 8
Raz Over/Under is 10
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 10:00:09 AM
Meeting time, but luckily it's a non-video meeting that I only have to marginally pay attention to.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 10:02:21 AM
Today's Over/Under is 8
Raz Over/Under is 10
6
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 10:14:26 AM
Morning muchachos.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 10:14:39 AM
Today would have been my parents' 64th wedding anniversary. After 7 years, I'd like to think they're celebrating together again this year. May they both rest in peace.
At the very least, they're celebrating in your memory, and I think that counts for something.
Indeed.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 10:16:14 AM
Permit me to do a little political analysis. I promise I will NOT go into ethics or morality.

The SCOTUS decision striking down Roe v Wade, in the long run, is actually a win for abortion rights supporters. I read the decision, and it all but telegraphs this: "Pass federal legislation. If that legislation is challenged here, we will reiterate that the Supreme Court is staying out of it unless it expressly contradicts the constitution."

There is nothing in the constitution that legislation to legalize abortion at the Federal level is going to contradict. The closest you could get would be the Fifth Amendment, and certainly someone will try to challenge legalized abortion on that grounds. But it won't work, for a very simple reason - regardless of when life begins, citizenship - and constitutional rights - begin at birth, and end at death. And there is no Supreme Court that is going to elevate the rights of a fetus over the rights of a pregnant woman. I know that Pro-Choice activists are screaming this is what just happened, but it isn't. Read the decision. This case simply says the Supreme Court is not going to extrapolate rights that aren't defined in the constitution. If you want to put rights into the constitution, you have to do it by the amendment process.

This isn't even a state-rights issue. If pro-abortion forces get legislation through Congress - and mark my words they will - the very logic in this decision that struck down Roe will have to be applied to say the legislation is constitutional. There is nothing in the constitution that says there is a right to an abortion, and by the same token there is nothing in the constitution that can be construed to proscribe abortion. So, pass Federal legislation and get a president to sign it, and the discussion, from a legal standpoint, is effectively over, under the 10th Amendment and the 14th Amendment. And then, if you really want to establish that abortion is a civil right, amend the constitution.

Roe tried to make a 14th Amendment case to invalidate state laws. It was a weak argument, and I've talked to any number of pro-choice lawyers (we have a bunch of them at WADOH) and even they say it was weak. But an activist court endorsed it.

No matter how one feels about the Roberts court, when you get down to the details, this court handed abortion-rights supporters a huge win. The court has advertised that they will not oppose Federal abortion legislation.

This is just political and legal analysis. I'm not taking any ethical stance here. That would be a discussion for another time, and probably not here. All I'm saying is this decision is not the win that anti-abortion forces wished for, and it is not the disaster that pro-abortion forces say it is. Quite the opposite.

There is now a freshly-paved highway and the political will to establish legalized abortion at the Federal level, and the Religious Right will have zero recourse to stop it. Some states will try to make a 10th Amendment case against it, but it will fail. The Supreme Court has taken itself out of that war.
Interesting late night analysis Mr. Raz.  Overall I agree with your analysis of the decision from a legal perspective, but not so much for the "backdoor win" scenario.  That would require congress to do something, which they are generally unable to do.  Politicians are just as happy to keep this issue up in the air so they can make promises over and over in each election cycle.  If this were put to a popular vote, it would have been decided long ago,

In any case, while this plays out, there is going to be a lot of collateral damage.
Yeah, maybe. We'll see. Everything is collateral damage right now.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 10:19:55 AM
Today's Over/Under is 8
Raz Over/Under is 10
Just missed it. Nine.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 10:23:57 AM
Morning muchachos.
Welcome back, Page3Raz.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 10:35:52 AM
Meeting time, but luckily it's a non-video meeting that I only have to marginally pay attention to.
So you can go outside and have a cigar?
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 10:36:40 AM
Morning muchachos.
Second good morning Mr. Raz.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 10:46:02 AM
Got the windows open now and someone is mowing their grass. Smells delightful.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 10:46:46 AM
Meeting time, but luckily it's a non-video meeting that I only have to marginally pay attention to.
So you can go outside and have a cigar?
I could have, but decided to stay inside today.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 11:08:33 AM
Morning muchachos.
Welcome back, Page3Raz.
Good morning, LTG.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 11:08:47 AM
Morning muchachos.
Second good morning Mr. Raz.
Morning, TD.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 11:09:40 AM
Got the windows open now and someone is mowing their grass. Smells delightful.
Makes me sneeze just thinking about it. Summer finally arrived out here, and the pollen is brutal.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 11:18:14 AM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 11:23:34 AM
Good morning, Bret and Dave.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 11:28:32 AM
Today's Over/Under is 8
Raz Over/Under is 10
Nailed it. 8 for me.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 11:30:58 AM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Man, I wouldn't even want to know what my first actual purchase was, because I'm sure it would be embarrassing. I was referring just to CF, probably at the MoW event prior to the actual fest.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 11:39:46 AM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Man, I wouldn't even want to know what my first actual purchase was, because I'm sure it would be embarrassing. I was referring just to CF, probably at the MoW event prior to the actual fest.
Ironically, on that same order was a ticket for CF 2008.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 11:45:00 AM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Man, I wouldn't even want to know what my first actual purchase was, because I'm sure it would be embarrassing. I was referring just to CF, probably at the MoW event prior to the actual fest.
Ironically, on that same order was a ticket for CF 2008.
Which makes your purchase unnecessary, cause I'm guessing you got a couple Felipe Gregorios on the floor. Lol
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 12:04:46 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Man, I wouldn't even want to know what my first actual purchase was, because I'm sure it would be embarrassing. I was referring just to CF, probably at the MoW event prior to the actual fest.
Ironically, on that same order was a ticket for CF 2008.
Which makes your purchase unnecessary, cause I'm guessing you got a couple Felipe Gregorios on the floor. Lol
I probably should have left them on the floor.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 12:35:51 PM
Good morning, Bret and Dave.
Morning, T.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 01:08:11 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Man, I wouldn't even want to know what my first actual purchase was, because I'm sure it would be embarrassing. I was referring just to CF, probably at the MoW event prior to the actual fest.
Ironically, on that same order was a ticket for CF 2008.
Which makes your purchase unnecessary, cause I'm guessing you got a couple Felipe Gregorios on the floor. Lol
I probably should have left them on the floor.
In hindsight, yes. But back then, you were probably all, "yes, more Felipe Gregorios! I recently smoked some of these and they were amazing."
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 01:35:11 PM
Tuesday afternoon.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 01:38:51 PM
Tuesday afternoon.
Definitely not on a twofer deal there.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 01:45:01 PM
Tuesday afternoon.
Definitely not on a twofer deal there.
A........no!
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 01:46:12 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 01:47:06 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
I remember doing a lot of samplers early on....and different 5 Vegas.... :-[
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 01:56:37 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
I remember doing a lot of samplers early on....and different 5 Vegas.... :-[
My early go-to on the course was the La Estrella Cubana. They held up well, I wonder how they would taste these days?
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 02:16:46 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
I remember doing a lot of samplers early on....and different 5 Vegas.... :-[
Yes sir. Most were a huge disappointment. The AAA corona and the Classic High Primings were my favorites. I wonder if I would still appreciate them now.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 02:31:46 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
I remember doing a lot of samplers early on....and different 5 Vegas.... :-[
Yes sir. Most were a huge disappointment. The AAA corona and the Classic High Primings were my favorites. I wonder if I would still appreciate them now.
I'd forgotten about the High Primings. Those were good, along with the original AAAs, but the AAA corona was a step above.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 02:45:23 PM
Anyhoo, we should be proud of our 5 pages of bullshit considering we didn't have much to banter about with respect to today's offerings.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 02:46:41 PM
Anyhoo, we should be proud of our 5 pages of bullshit considering we didn't have much to banter about with respect to today's offerings.
These days, we can fill a whole page just with puzzles.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 03:04:23 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
Hamburger is great until you taste prime rib.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 03:11:14 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
Hamburger is great until you taste prime rib.
And boobs are great until...nah, never mind, boobs are always great. Well, unless Oy is posting them, I suppose.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 03:11:21 PM
Hazzuh!
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 03:45:17 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
Hamburger is great until you taste prime rib.
It's all relative. I still like a burger from time to time.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 03:45:44 PM
Hazzuh!
You may want to have your watch checked.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 03:53:52 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
Hamburger is great until you taste prime rib.
To be honest, I'd go with a good burger over prime rib.  Not crazy about the gobs of fat.  for steak, my go to is a nice filet.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: razgueado on June 28, 2022, 05:16:58 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
Hamburger is great until you taste prime rib.
It's all relative. I still like a burger from time to time.
It'll definitely get the job done.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 05:39:37 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
Hamburger is great until you taste prime rib.
To be honest, I'd go with a good burger over prime rib.  Not crazy about the gobs of fat.  for steak, my go to is a nice filet.
Ditto, burger over prime rib for me.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 05:40:04 PM
Hazzuh!
You may want to have your watch checked.
Worked an hour of OT.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on June 28, 2022, 07:46:53 PM
Boy, that Joe deal really takes me back. I believe that was the first deal I ever purchased at CF.
That's interesting. Not sure I know what mine is but certain it preexisted Diesel or Nub.
I can't remember my first...does that make me a bad person?
I can't either but I found an old confirmation email from January of 2008 with a Filipe Gregorio mega sampler on it.
Gotta start somewhere.
Hamburger is great until you taste prime rib.
To be honest, I'd go with a good burger over prime rib.  Not crazy about the gobs of fat.  for steak, my go to is a nice filet.
Ditto, burger over prime rib for me.
I love a good burger but can't say I prefer it over prime rib. If the prime rib is perfectly cooked, it's hard to beat. But that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: bluecollar on June 28, 2022, 07:54:10 PM
Nice little treat I found at Tinderbox (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220628/c41b8bcc67d0e089bff5f58cfdde252e.jpg)
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 08:49:04 PM
Hazzuh!
You may want to have your watch checked.
Worked an hour of OT.
Got to pay for casino and restaurant outings this month.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 08:49:57 PM
Evening Rick.  Don't know that one.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 09:06:38 PM
Good evening.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 09:13:44 PM
Hazzuh!
You may want to have your watch checked.
Worked an hour of OT.
Got to pay for casino and restaurant outings this month.
Amen, brother.
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: LuvTooGolf on June 28, 2022, 09:14:18 PM
MoWPA

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220629/ad7658cb823a04b46adc27449da378ff.jpg)
Title: Re: 6/28/2022
Post by: Travellin Dave on June 28, 2022, 10:15:37 PM
Giving this Diesel a try.