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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2021, 10:26:25 AM »

Rocky Patel The Edge Corojo toro (6.0"x52) - 10 / $39.99
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2021, 10:30:06 AM »

Oldest son is in town.  Going to meet him and family at the Greenville Zoo shortly.
Morning, Dave. Sounds like fun, be careful they don't leave you in the monkey enclosure.
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2021, 11:38:19 AM »

Okay, let's talk about tools...and I mean the kind you use to repair things, y'perverts.

As kids, my sons took a heavy toll on the collection of Craftsman hand tools I had assembled before they came along.  Most recently, I gave the socket set Carol bought me for Christmas 30+ years ago to #1 son.  He was using it more often than I, and I got tired of hollering at him when he didn't stow it properly after use.  So I gave it to him.  That, and Prime Day, and having some extra cash on hand, occasioned replacing that set and a bunch of other tools that are likely in shallow graves in the yard somewhere.

Craftsman, which my grandfather taught me to be a fan of from a young age, is no longer what it was.  The lifetime warranty is now limited, you can't run to the local Sears for replacement, and they've been manufacturing in China for a long time.  So Craftsman no longer represents a superior consumer-grade option.  Since I don't earn my living with tools, I'm not going to pay the hefty premium to buy Snap-On or MAC tools.  So I gave in and ordered some tools from Amazon, including a 30-piece set of combination wrenches bearing the name Tekton.  I figured it for just another Chinese brand on Amazon.

The wrenches arrived yesterday afternoon.  Fit and finish seemed good.  But the metric set came with two 20mm wrenches and no 19mm.  Fuck.  Yes, I know, I could box it all back up and drop it off at the UPS store and order another set.  But that's a pain in the ass, and has on more than one occasion confused hell out of Amazon which led to weeks of me arguing with them over whether or not I had actually returned the item in question. 

What I needed was just to swap a wrench.  So, I got online to see if there was any way to do this.  Tekton has an Amazon store, and from there it pointed to their website.  Turns out they are a Michigan company, so I wasn't going to have to be calling China.  This was promising.  So I opened a support case, explained the problem, and included a picture of the duplicated wrenches.  This was at 6:15pm last night.  When I woke up at 5am, I saw that I had an email from Colin - a User Engagement Specialist for Tekton.  He needed the part number for the set.  I provided it.  A minute later he responded that he needed an address to ship me a replacement wrench.  I provided that.  He responded a minute later that the wrench would be shipped today, and that I could keep the duplicate.

Now, this is not as immediate as was running to the local Sears for a replacement as I used to do before Sears went to pieces. And we'll see if the wrench in question gets here in a reasonable timeframe.  But it was cheaper and less of a hassle than a trip to Sears would have been, were that still possible.  Coupla emails, and done.  And I didn't have to decipher the accent of somebody in Shanghai over the phone.  So this is promising.  Tekton has a good website with the ability to order individual pieces, and a comprehensive line of the fundamental mechanic hand tools.  So I think I may have found a brand of tools to be loyal to. 

This was not a paid endorsement. 

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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2021, 11:43:39 AM »

Okay, let's talk about tools...and I mean the kind you use to repair things, y'perverts.

As kids, my sons took a heavy toll on the collection of Craftsman hand tools I had assembled before they came along.  Most recently, I gave the socket set Carol bought me for Christmas 30+ years ago to #1 son.  He was using it more often than I, and I got tired of hollering at him when he didn't stow it properly after use.  So I gave it to him.  That, and Prime Day, and having some extra cash on hand, occasioned replacing that set and a bunch of other tools that are likely in shallow graves in the yard somewhere.

Craftsman, which my grandfather taught me to be a fan of from a young age, is no longer what it was.  The lifetime warranty is now limited, you can't run to the local Sears for replacement, and they've been manufacturing in China for a long time.  So Craftsman no longer represents a superior consumer-grade option.  Since I don't earn my living with tools, I'm not going to pay the hefty premium to buy Snap-On or MAC tools.  So I gave in and ordered some tools from Amazon, including a 30-piece set of combination wrenches bearing the name Tekton.  I figured it for just another Chinese brand on Amazon.

The wrenches arrived yesterday afternoon.  Fit and finish seemed good.  But the metric set came with two 20mm wrenches and no 19mm.  Fuck.  Yes, I know, I could box it all back up and drop it off at the UPS store and order another set.  But that's a pain in the ass, and has on more than one occasion confused hell out of Amazon which led to weeks of me arguing with them over whether or not I had actually returned the item in question. 

What I needed was to just swap a wrench.  So, I got online to see if there was any way to do this.  Tekton has an Amazon store, and from there it pointed to their website.  Turns out they are a Michigan company, so I wasn't going to have to be calling China.  This was promising.  So I opened a support case, explained the problem, and included a picture of the duplicated wrenches.  This was at 6:15pm last night.  When I woke up at 5am, I saw that I had an email from Colin - a User Engagement Specialist for Tekton.  He needed the part number for the set.  I provided it.  A minute later he responded that he needed an address to ship me a replacement wrench.  I provided that.  He responded a minute later that the wrench would be shipped today, and that I could keep the duplicate.

Now, this is not as immediate as was running to the local Sears for a replacement as I used to do before Sears went to pieces. And we'll see if the wrench in question gets here in a reasonable timeframe.  But it was cheaper and less of a hassle than a trip to Sears would have been, were that still possible.  Coupla emails, and done.  And I didn't have to decipher the accent of somebody in Shanghai over the phone.  So this is promising.  Tekton has a good website with the ability to order individual pieces, and a comprehensive line of the fundamental mechanic hand tools.  So I think I may have found a brand of tools to be loyal to. 

This was not a paid endorsement.
Definitely sounds like a good experience, as halfway through that I expected it to end much differently. Next time I need a tool, I'll give them a looksee.
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2021, 12:27:23 PM »

Okay, let's talk about tools...and I mean the kind you use to repair things, y'perverts.

Definitely sounds like a good experience, as halfway through that I expected it to end much differently. Next time I need a tool, I'll give them a looksee.
Seems like it so far. 

I tend to be persnickety about hand tools, and prefer to stick with particular brands because it reduces overlap and and dimensional inconsistencies.  For electronic work, I favor Klein and Platt.  Those are the Snap-On and MAC of the electronic world, and for those I do pay the premium because of the required precision, and because electronic work doesn't impose the stresses or wear that mechanical work does.  For mechanic tools I just don't like to pay that premium.  I want the tools to be solid, because it sucks to break a tool and have to crawl out from under the car and run to the store to replace, or to damage a nut or bolt because the tools aren't precisely sized.  But let's face it - while there's certainly no shortage of junk coming out of China, and I don't like supporting Fascio-Communist regimes, the notion that Chinese manufacturing is inferior to the US of A is mostly myth. These Tekton wrenches feel as substantial as Snap-On, and are well-polished.  The polishing and engraving is not as fine as Snap-On, but it's still pretty good.  Now, I actually prefer my hand tools not to be so polished, because the tools become slick when the hands get greasy.  I liked Craftsman's rougher texture.  But that's a relatively small issue. 
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2021, 01:11:27 PM »

Okay, let's talk about tools...and I mean the kind you use to repair things, y'perverts.

Definitely sounds like a good experience, as halfway through that I expected it to end much differently. Next time I need a tool, I'll give them a looksee.
Seems like it so far. 

I tend to be persnickety about hand tools, and prefer to stick with particular brands because it reduces overlap and and dimensional inconsistencies.  For electronic work, I favor Klein and Platt.  Those are the Snap-On and MAC of the electronic world, and for those I do pay the premium because of the required precision, and because electronic work doesn't impose the stresses or wear that mechanical work does.  For mechanic tools I just don't like to pay that premium.  I want the tools to be solid, because it sucks to break a tool and have to crawl out from under the car and run to the store to replace, or to damage a nut or bolt because the tools aren't precisely sized.  But let's face it - while there's certainly no shortage of junk coming out of China, and I don't like supporting Fascio-Communist regimes, the notion that Chinese manufacturing is inferior to the US of A is mostly myth. These Tekton wrenches feel as substantial as Snap-On, and are well-polished.  The polishing and engraving is not as fine as Snap-On, but it's still pretty good.  Now, I actually prefer my hand tools not to be so polished, because the tools become slick when the hands get greasy.  I liked Craftsman's rougher texture.  But that's a relatively small issue.
I feel the same way about the finish. I bought a small axe for some roots left over after we had a tree taken down. The handle was so smooth it felt like I'd lose grip on it at any time, which is not ideal when swinging an axe. Had to rough up the handle with some coarse sandpaper to give it a better feel.
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2021, 02:19:18 PM »

Time to hit the bricks. Hazzuh!
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2021, 03:47:21 PM »

That completely sucks. I've been online since 5:30 and I'm ready to call it a day when I noticed a big meeting tomorrow which requires preparation. FMTT!
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2021, 06:24:09 PM »

That completely sucks. I've been online since 5:30 and I'm ready to call it a day when I noticed a big meeting tomorrow which requires preparation. FMTT!
Right?  Life sucks, and then we die. 
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2021, 06:36:36 PM »

That completely sucks. I've been online since 5:30 and I'm ready to call it a day when I noticed a big meeting tomorrow which requires preparation. FMTT!
Right?  Life sucks, and then we die.
I used to joke about that in my 20s. Now I truly believe it. If I should live into my 80s, I'm gonna be a delight.
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2021, 08:10:29 PM »

That completely sucks. I've been online since 5:30 and I'm ready to call it a day when I noticed a big meeting tomorrow which requires preparation. FMTT!
Right?  Life sucks, and then we die.
I used to joke about that in my 20s. Now I truly believe it. If I should live into my 80s, I'm gonna be a delight.
Won't that be a treat!
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2021, 08:11:08 PM »

Evening lull...
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2021, 08:12:22 PM »

First cigar of the evening.
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2021, 08:31:12 PM »

Today's offer from SBC:

Newsletter Special!
Starting now until tomorrow at midnight we have one special on the three categories below.

La Barba
RoMa Craft
Warped


CODE: NEWS = 17% off plus 5% reward points on above categories.
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Re: 6/24/2021
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2021, 08:32:20 PM »

Cohiba Red Dot Churchill (7.0"x49)
PACK OF 5 / $29.99
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