Quote from: LuvTooGolf on August 10, 2017, 09:25:40 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 09:09:17 AMQuote from: Threebean on August 10, 2017, 08:39:53 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:36:12 AMQuote from: Threebean on August 10, 2017, 08:23:08 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:11:56 AMA lot of lower volume smokers go to B&M's thinking they will get some good advice on purchases...... Well if you think there is much or any validity to that then send the warden to a few B&M's to buy some cigars per their recommendations and see what she comes home with.When we went to the new B&M for the Saturday retirement Herf the first thing the guy did was try to sell me on an RyJ.Edit: if Amazon sold Cigars the end of B&M's would be near but since newbies and low volume smokers have to search out good vendors, none of which they have ever heard of, they go to B&M's.Beyond the newbie factor, browsing a decent B&M for a 2-3 sticks one hasn't tried is fun. And they can be a good place to enjoy a smoke when the weather sucks. True, but it comes at a price and in high tax states it comes at a big price.Indeed. What timing, and on this very topic from HalfWheel Today:Smokers in New York City could soon be looking at a significant increase of tobacco products if a proposal scheduled to go before the New York City Council today gets approved.Int. No. 1544-B was introduced back in April, but the proposal underwent an amendment during its hearing by the council’s Committee on Health yesterday that makes the taxes even more punishing.Passed 7-0 with two members absent, the bill would establish a price floor of $8 per cigar when sold individually, a minimum that must be established before OTP and sales taxes are added. For box sales, the price floor would be established by multiplying the number of cigars in the box by $1.75, and then adding $6.25.It would also establish a new excise tax of 10 percent of the price floor, or 80 cents per stick when sold individually. For a box purchase, the tax would be 80 cents for the first cigar, and then 17.5 for each additional cigar. In effect, it would make the minimum price of a cigar sold in New York City $8.80, and that’s before the state’s effective tax rate of 28.5 percent of the wholesale price.The bill would also increase the minimum price on a pack of cigarettes cigarettes while establishing price floors and raising the taxes on little cigars, smokeless tobacco, suns, shisha and loose tobacco.Funds raised from the increase would be directed to the New York City Housing Authority, which oversees the city’s public housing.First time I've ever heard of a price floor. Sounds like a truly asinine concept. Fuk'n commies!Indeed. Just come on over to Jersey and visit Jamie's. Fukin' NY commies.How can any store or lounge survive?
Quote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 09:09:17 AMQuote from: Threebean on August 10, 2017, 08:39:53 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:36:12 AMQuote from: Threebean on August 10, 2017, 08:23:08 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:11:56 AMA lot of lower volume smokers go to B&M's thinking they will get some good advice on purchases...... Well if you think there is much or any validity to that then send the warden to a few B&M's to buy some cigars per their recommendations and see what she comes home with.When we went to the new B&M for the Saturday retirement Herf the first thing the guy did was try to sell me on an RyJ.Edit: if Amazon sold Cigars the end of B&M's would be near but since newbies and low volume smokers have to search out good vendors, none of which they have ever heard of, they go to B&M's.Beyond the newbie factor, browsing a decent B&M for a 2-3 sticks one hasn't tried is fun. And they can be a good place to enjoy a smoke when the weather sucks. True, but it comes at a price and in high tax states it comes at a big price.Indeed. What timing, and on this very topic from HalfWheel Today:Smokers in New York City could soon be looking at a significant increase of tobacco products if a proposal scheduled to go before the New York City Council today gets approved.Int. No. 1544-B was introduced back in April, but the proposal underwent an amendment during its hearing by the council’s Committee on Health yesterday that makes the taxes even more punishing.Passed 7-0 with two members absent, the bill would establish a price floor of $8 per cigar when sold individually, a minimum that must be established before OTP and sales taxes are added. For box sales, the price floor would be established by multiplying the number of cigars in the box by $1.75, and then adding $6.25.It would also establish a new excise tax of 10 percent of the price floor, or 80 cents per stick when sold individually. For a box purchase, the tax would be 80 cents for the first cigar, and then 17.5 for each additional cigar. In effect, it would make the minimum price of a cigar sold in New York City $8.80, and that’s before the state’s effective tax rate of 28.5 percent of the wholesale price.The bill would also increase the minimum price on a pack of cigarettes cigarettes while establishing price floors and raising the taxes on little cigars, smokeless tobacco, suns, shisha and loose tobacco.Funds raised from the increase would be directed to the New York City Housing Authority, which oversees the city’s public housing.First time I've ever heard of a price floor. Sounds like a truly asinine concept. Fuk'n commies!
Quote from: Threebean on August 10, 2017, 08:39:53 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:36:12 AMQuote from: Threebean on August 10, 2017, 08:23:08 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:11:56 AMA lot of lower volume smokers go to B&M's thinking they will get some good advice on purchases...... Well if you think there is much or any validity to that then send the warden to a few B&M's to buy some cigars per their recommendations and see what she comes home with.When we went to the new B&M for the Saturday retirement Herf the first thing the guy did was try to sell me on an RyJ.Edit: if Amazon sold Cigars the end of B&M's would be near but since newbies and low volume smokers have to search out good vendors, none of which they have ever heard of, they go to B&M's.Beyond the newbie factor, browsing a decent B&M for a 2-3 sticks one hasn't tried is fun. And they can be a good place to enjoy a smoke when the weather sucks. True, but it comes at a price and in high tax states it comes at a big price.Indeed. What timing, and on this very topic from HalfWheel Today:Smokers in New York City could soon be looking at a significant increase of tobacco products if a proposal scheduled to go before the New York City Council today gets approved.Int. No. 1544-B was introduced back in April, but the proposal underwent an amendment during its hearing by the council’s Committee on Health yesterday that makes the taxes even more punishing.Passed 7-0 with two members absent, the bill would establish a price floor of $8 per cigar when sold individually, a minimum that must be established before OTP and sales taxes are added. For box sales, the price floor would be established by multiplying the number of cigars in the box by $1.75, and then adding $6.25.It would also establish a new excise tax of 10 percent of the price floor, or 80 cents per stick when sold individually. For a box purchase, the tax would be 80 cents for the first cigar, and then 17.5 for each additional cigar. In effect, it would make the minimum price of a cigar sold in New York City $8.80, and that’s before the state’s effective tax rate of 28.5 percent of the wholesale price.The bill would also increase the minimum price on a pack of cigarettes cigarettes while establishing price floors and raising the taxes on little cigars, smokeless tobacco, suns, shisha and loose tobacco.Funds raised from the increase would be directed to the New York City Housing Authority, which oversees the city’s public housing.
Quote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:36:12 AMQuote from: Threebean on August 10, 2017, 08:23:08 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:11:56 AMA lot of lower volume smokers go to B&M's thinking they will get some good advice on purchases...... Well if you think there is much or any validity to that then send the warden to a few B&M's to buy some cigars per their recommendations and see what she comes home with.When we went to the new B&M for the Saturday retirement Herf the first thing the guy did was try to sell me on an RyJ.Edit: if Amazon sold Cigars the end of B&M's would be near but since newbies and low volume smokers have to search out good vendors, none of which they have ever heard of, they go to B&M's.Beyond the newbie factor, browsing a decent B&M for a 2-3 sticks one hasn't tried is fun. And they can be a good place to enjoy a smoke when the weather sucks. True, but it comes at a price and in high tax states it comes at a big price.Indeed.
Quote from: Threebean on August 10, 2017, 08:23:08 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:11:56 AMA lot of lower volume smokers go to B&M's thinking they will get some good advice on purchases...... Well if you think there is much or any validity to that then send the warden to a few B&M's to buy some cigars per their recommendations and see what she comes home with.When we went to the new B&M for the Saturday retirement Herf the first thing the guy did was try to sell me on an RyJ.Edit: if Amazon sold Cigars the end of B&M's would be near but since newbies and low volume smokers have to search out good vendors, none of which they have ever heard of, they go to B&M's.Beyond the newbie factor, browsing a decent B&M for a 2-3 sticks one hasn't tried is fun. And they can be a good place to enjoy a smoke when the weather sucks. True, but it comes at a price and in high tax states it comes at a big price.
Quote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:11:56 AMA lot of lower volume smokers go to B&M's thinking they will get some good advice on purchases...... Well if you think there is much or any validity to that then send the warden to a few B&M's to buy some cigars per their recommendations and see what she comes home with.When we went to the new B&M for the Saturday retirement Herf the first thing the guy did was try to sell me on an RyJ.Edit: if Amazon sold Cigars the end of B&M's would be near but since newbies and low volume smokers have to search out good vendors, none of which they have ever heard of, they go to B&M's.Beyond the newbie factor, browsing a decent B&M for a 2-3 sticks one hasn't tried is fun. And they can be a good place to enjoy a smoke when the weather sucks.
A lot of lower volume smokers go to B&M's thinking they will get some good advice on purchases...... Well if you think there is much or any validity to that then send the warden to a few B&M's to buy some cigars per their recommendations and see what she comes home with.When we went to the new B&M for the Saturday retirement Herf the first thing the guy did was try to sell me on an RyJ.Edit: if Amazon sold Cigars the end of B&M's would be near but since newbies and low volume smokers have to search out good vendors, none of which they have ever heard of, they go to B&M's.
Fk'n Commies!
Quote from: Travellin Dave on August 10, 2017, 09:36:06 AMQuote from: LuvTooGolf on August 10, 2017, 09:25:40 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 09:09:17 AMQuote from: Threebean on August 10, 2017, 08:39:53 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:36:12 AMQuote from: Threebean on August 10, 2017, 08:23:08 AMQuote from: Texas Redfish on August 10, 2017, 08:11:56 AMA lot of lower volume smokers go to B&M's thinking they will get some good advice on purchases...... Well if you think there is much or any validity to that then send the warden to a few B&M's to buy some cigars per their recommendations and see what she comes home with.When we went to the new B&M for the Saturday retirement Herf the first thing the guy did was try to sell me on an RyJ.Edit: if Amazon sold Cigars the end of B&M's would be near but since newbies and low volume smokers have to search out good vendors, none of which they have ever heard of, they go to B&M's.Beyond the newbie factor, browsing a decent B&M for a 2-3 sticks one hasn't tried is fun. And they can be a good place to enjoy a smoke when the weather sucks. True, but it comes at a price and in high tax states it comes at a big price.Indeed. What timing, and on this very topic from HalfWheel Today:Smokers in New York City could soon be looking at a significant increase of tobacco products if a proposal scheduled to go before the New York City Council today gets approved.Int. No. 1544-B was introduced back in April, but the proposal underwent an amendment during its hearing by the council’s Committee on Health yesterday that makes the taxes even more punishing.Passed 7-0 with two members absent, the bill would establish a price floor of $8 per cigar when sold individually, a minimum that must be established before OTP and sales taxes are added. For box sales, the price floor would be established by multiplying the number of cigars in the box by $1.75, and then adding $6.25.It would also establish a new excise tax of 10 percent of the price floor, or 80 cents per stick when sold individually. For a box purchase, the tax would be 80 cents for the first cigar, and then 17.5 for each additional cigar. In effect, it would make the minimum price of a cigar sold in New York City $8.80, and that’s before the state’s effective tax rate of 28.5 percent of the wholesale price.The bill would also increase the minimum price on a pack of cigarettes cigarettes while establishing price floors and raising the taxes on little cigars, smokeless tobacco, suns, shisha and loose tobacco.Funds raised from the increase would be directed to the New York City Housing Authority, which oversees the city’s public housing.First time I've ever heard of a price floor. Sounds like a truly asinine concept. Fuk'n commies!Indeed. Just come on over to Jersey and visit Jamie's. Fukin' NY commies.How can any store or lounge survive?Volume. When you have 8 million people in the city, even if a tiny percentage are stupid enough to keep buying at those prices, you can stay in business. Hopefully.
Another fair weather friend drops in! Morning Steve.
Football game wasn't half bad last night. Good to see Deshaun Watson do well, McCaffrey looked good too.
#FakeNews
Quote from: Travellin Dave on August 10, 2017, 10:34:03 AMFootball game wasn't half bad last night. Good to see Deshaun Watson do well, McCaffrey looked good too.7 more games tonight, three each on Friday and Saturday, two on Sunday.
Quote from: BackyardSmoker on August 10, 2017, 10:33:29 AM#FakeNewsIndeed it is.They just photoshopped from this:
