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Title: 1/12/2023
Post by: CigarBanter on January 12, 2023, 12:50:57 AM
What's up cigar enthusiasts?!  Any cigar deals on the various internet sites that are worth talking about? Join in this discussion and perhaps learn something along the way.  Warning: don't proceed if you have thin skin but don't be afraid to post either...  And welcome aboard!
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 03:09:49 AM
I came up with five possible words. This time I guessed the correct one first.

Night, lads.

Wordle 572 2/6

🟨🟨🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 06:28:05 AM
I came up with five possible words. This time I guessed the correct one first.

Night, lads.

Wordle 572 2/6

🟨🟨🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Very cool.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 06:28:48 AM
Good morning, banterworld.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 06:29:57 AM
Good morning, banterworld.
Same to you. Bit of a late start this morning because my Chrome was shitting the bed and I needed some IT intervention.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 06:30:21 AM
JoeCigar:

La Perla Habana Black Pearl Original Gordo (6.0"x60) - 10 / $34.99
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 06:31:17 AM
Good morning, banterworld.
Same to you. Bit of a late start this morning because my Chrome was shitting the bed and I needed some IT intervention.
Good morning, Dave. Happy little Friday to you.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 06:31:51 AM
Wordle 572 4/6*

⬛🟨🟩⬛🟨
⬛🟩🟩🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 06:36:45 AM
Cigar.com:

Door #1 - Ortega Cubao Toro (6.0"x50) - Box of 10 / $39.99

Door #2 - La Perla Habana Celebration Sampler - 15 / $49.99
includes:
5 - La Perla Habana Classic Cameroon Toro (6.7"x48)
5 - La Perla Classic Belicoso (6.2"x52)
5 - La Perla Habana 1515 Robusto (5.0"x52)

Door #3 - Menace by CAO Gordo (6.0"x60) - 5 / $24.99
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 06:59:41 AM
I came up with five possible words. This time I guessed the correct one first.

Night, lads.

Wordle 572 2/6

🟨🟨🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

I was close...
Wordle 572 3/6

🟩🟨⬛🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 07:27:08 AM
I came up with five possible words. This time I guessed the correct one first.

Night, lads.

Wordle 572 2/6

🟨🟨🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

I was close...
Wordle 572 3/6

🟩🟨⬛🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
I probably should've had it in 3, but didn't see the obvious answer with my third try.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 09:13:31 AM
It seems ABs have been replaced by La Perlas today.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 09:34:36 AM
It seems ABs have been replaced by La Perlas today.
Feels like a downgrade.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 09:37:24 AM
It seems ABs have been replaced by La Perlas today.
Feels like a downgrade.
Your view of the world is, the glass ashtray is half filled with shit cigars?
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 09:57:12 AM
It seems ABs have been replaced by La Perlas today.
Feels like a downgrade.
Your view of the world is, the glass ashtray is half filled with shit cigars?
Close, but the ashtray is wooden. :D
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 10:06:00 AM
Raz is not going to be happy this morning.  Jeff Beck is dead at 78.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 10:06:50 AM
Also passing is Heisman running back from USC, Charles White at 64
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 10:08:21 AM
Raz is not going to be happy this morning.  Jeff Beck is dead at 78.
He mentioned it yesterday. Very sad.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 10:09:11 AM
Good morning, GrimReaperDave.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 10:09:38 AM
It seems ABs have been replaced by La Perlas today.
Feels like a downgrade.
Your view of the world is, the glass ashtray is half filled with shit cigars?
Close, but the ashtray is wooden. :D
Saw that one coming!   :P
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 10:11:22 AM
Morning, muchachos.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 10:13:39 AM
Also passing is Heisman running back from USC, Charles White at 64
Who apparently also played for the Browns for several years. But that was when I was still a wee tyke.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 10:13:47 AM
Morning, muchachos.
Morning, Page2Raz.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 10:16:13 AM


I came up with five possible words. This time I guessed the correct one first.

Night, lads.

Wordle 572 2/6

🟨🟨🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

I was close...
Wordle 572 3/6

🟩🟨🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Outstanding.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 10:21:48 AM
Today is Thursday, Jan. 12, the 12th day of 2023.
There are 353 days left in the year.



Today’s Highlight in History:

On Jan. 12, 1959, Berry Gordy Jr. founded Motown Records (originally Tamla Records) in Detroit.

On this date:

In 1828, the United States and Mexico signed a Treaty of Limits defining the boundary between the two countries to be the same as the one established by an 1819 treaty between the U.S. and Spain.

In 1910, at a White House dinner hosted by President William Howard Taft, Baroness Rosen, wife of the Russian ambassador, caused a stir by requesting and smoking a cigarette — it was, apparently, the first time a woman had smoked openly during a public function in the executive mansion. (Some of the other women present who had brought their own cigarettes began lighting up in turn.)

In 1915, the U.S. House of Representatives rejected, 204-174, a proposed constitutional amendment to give women nationwide the right to vote.

In 1932, Hattie W. Caraway became the first woman elected to the U.S. Senate after initially being appointed to serve out the remainder of the term of her late husband, Thaddeus.

In 1945, during World War II, Soviet forces began a major, successful offensive against the Germans in Eastern Europe. Aircraft from U.S. Task Force 38 sank about 40 Japanese ships off Indochina.

In 1948, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Sipuel v. Board of Regents of University of Oklahoma, unanimously ruled that state law schools could not discriminate against applicants on the basis of race.

In 1966, President Lyndon B. Johnson said in his State of the Union address that the U.S. military should stay in Vietnam until Communist aggression there was stopped. The TV series “Batman,” starring Adam West and Burt Ward as the Dynamic Duo, premiered on ABC.

In 1969, the New York Jets of the American Football League upset the Baltimore Colts of the National Football League 16-7 in Super Bowl III, played at the Orange Bowl in Miami.

In 1971, the groundbreaking situation comedy “All in the Family” premiered on CBS television.

In 2000, in a 5-4 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Illinois v. Wardlow, gave police broad authority to stop and question people who run at the sight of an officer.


In 2010, Haiti was struck by a magnitude-7 earthquake; the Haitian government said 316,000 people were killed, while a report prepared for the U.S. Agency for International Development suggested the death toll may have been between 46,000 and 85,000.

In 2016, Iran detained 10 American sailors and their two small Navy boats after the boats drifted into Iranian waters; the sailors and their vessels were released the following day.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 10:24:08 AM
Ten years ago: The NHL’s four-month lockout finally ended as the league and the players’ association completed signing a required memorandum of understanding. Gary Stevens won the first race at Santa Anita, giving the Hall of Fame jockey his first win in North America since 2005, when he began a seven-year retirement that had recently ended. (Stevens rode 5-1 shot Branding to a 2 1/2-length victory in his third race since beginning his comeback on Jan. 6, 2013.)


Five years ago: President Donald Trump’s White House physician, Dr. Ronny Jackson, declared him in “excellent health” after the president received his first checkup at Walter Reed military hospital. Sportscaster Keith Jackson, best known as the down-home voice of college football, died; he was 89. John Tunney, whose successful campaign for a California seat in the U.S. Senate was the basis for the Robert Redford film “The Candidate,” died in Los Angeles at the age of 83.


One year ago: The House panel investigating the U.S. Capitol insurrection requested an interview and records from House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy as it continued to seek first-hand details from members of Congress on former President Donald Trump’s actions on Jan. 6; McCarthy issued a statement saying he would refuse to cooperate, accusing the panel of an “abuse of power.” The government reported that inflation jumped in December at its fastest year-over-year pace in nearly four decades, surging 7%. Ronnie Spector, who sang 1960s hits including “Be My Baby” as leader of the girl group The Ronettes, died at 78 after a brief battle with cancer.

Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 10:26:00 AM
I came up with five possible words. This time I guessed the correct one first.

Night, lads.

Wordle 572 2/6

🟨🟨🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

I was close...
Wordle 572 3/6

🟩🟨🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
I probably should've had it in 3, but didn't see the obvious answer with my third try.
Really depends on what letters you'd eliminated. I'm guessing by how you put the comment that you had already eliminated the most obvious word in that word family.

Had I not already eliminated that word with my first guess, it would have been my second, and I'd have solved in three.

On the other hand, if I'd have tried another word family, it could have taken me five or six. And it was a flip of the coin which way to go.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 10:28:26 AM
Today’s birthdays:

The Amazing Kreskin is 88.
Country singer William Lee Golden (The Oak Ridge Boys) is 84.
Actor Anthony Andrews is 75.
Movie director Wayne Wang is 74.
Legal affairs blogger Ann Althouse is 72.
Writer Walter Mosley is 71.
Country singer Ricky Van Shelton is 71.
Radio-TV personality Howard Stern is 69.
Writer-producer-director John Lasseter is 66.
Broadcast journalist Christiane Amanpour is 65.
Actor Oliver Platt is 63.
Basketball Hall of Famer Dominique Wilkins is 63.
Entrepreneur Jeff Bezos is 59.
Rock singer Rob Zombie is 58.
Actor Olivier Martinez is 57.
Model Vendela is 56.
Actor Rachael Harris is 55.
Rock singer Zack de la Rocha is 53.
Rapper Raekwon (Wu Tang Clan) is 53.
Mayor Tony of Banterland is 51.
Actor Zabryna Guevara is 51.
Singer Dan Haseltine (Jars of Clay) is 50.
Singer Melanie Chisholm (Spice Girls) is 49.
Contemporary Christian singer Jeremy Camp is 45.
Actor Cynthia Addai-Robinson is 43.
R&B singer Amerie is 43.
Actor Issa Rae is 38.
Actor Will Rothhaar is 36.
Actor Andrew Lawrence is 35.
Rock singer ZAYN is 30.
Pop/soul singer Ella Henderson (TV: “The X Factor”) is 27.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 10:29:45 AM
Todays's Over/Under is 6
Raz Over/Under is 8
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 10:30:20 AM
Today’s birthdays:

The Amazing Kreskin is 88.
Country singer William Lee Golden (The Oak Ridge Boys) is 84.
Actor Anthony Andrews is 75.
Movie director Wayne Wang is 74.
Legal affairs blogger Ann Althouse is 72.
Writer Walter Mosley is 71.
Country singer Ricky Van Shelton is 71.
Radio-TV personality Howard Stern is 69.
Writer-producer-director John Lasseter is 66.
Broadcast journalist Christiane Amanpour is 65.
Actor Oliver Platt is 63.
Basketball Hall of Famer Dominique Wilkins is 63.
Entrepreneur Jeff Bezos is 59.
Rock singer Rob Zombie is 58.
Actor Olivier Martinez is 57.
Model Vendela is 56.
Actor Rachael Harris is 55.
Tony is in here someplace...
Rock singer Zack de la Rocha is 53.
Rapper Raekwon (Wu Tang Clan) is 53.
Actor Zabryna Guevara is 51.
Singer Dan Haseltine (Jars of Clay) is 50.
Singer Melanie Chisholm (Spice Girls) is 49.
Contemporary Christian singer Jeremy Camp is 45.
Actor Cynthia Addai-Robinson is 43.
R&B singer Amerie is 43.
Actor Issa Rae is 38.
Actor Will Rothhaar is 36.
Actor Andrew Lawrence is 35.
Rock singer ZAYN is 30.
Pop/soul singer Ella Henderson (TV: “The X Factor”) is 27.
A little lower... 51.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 10:34:08 AM
Damar Hamlin released from the hospital.  Recuperating at home.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 10:34:19 AM
Todays's Over/Under is 6
Raz Over/Under is 8
Eight. And I'm not including myself. Rush Limbaugh used to be on this list too.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 10:36:55 AM
Today’s birthdays:

The Amazing Kreskin is 88.
Country singer William Lee Golden (The Oak Ridge Boys) is 84.
Actor Anthony Andrews is 75.
Movie director Wayne Wang is 74.
Legal affairs blogger Ann Althouse is 72.
Writer Walter Mosley is 71.
Country singer Ricky Van Shelton is 71.
Radio-TV personality Howard Stern is 69.
Writer-producer-director John Lasseter is 66.
Broadcast journalist Christiane Amanpour is 65.
Actor Oliver Platt is 63.
Basketball Hall of Famer Dominique Wilkins is 63.
Entrepreneur Jeff Bezos is 59.
Rock singer Rob Zombie is 58.
Actor Olivier Martinez is 57.
Model Vendela is 56.
Actor Rachael Harris is 55.
Tony is in here someplace...
Rock singer Zack de la Rocha is 53.
Rapper Raekwon (Wu Tang Clan) is 53.
Actor Zabryna Guevara is 51.
Singer Dan Haseltine (Jars of Clay) is 50.
Singer Melanie Chisholm (Spice Girls) is 49.
Contemporary Christian singer Jeremy Camp is 45.
Actor Cynthia Addai-Robinson is 43.
R&B singer Amerie is 43.
Actor Issa Rae is 38.
Actor Will Rothhaar is 36.
Actor Andrew Lawrence is 35.
Rock singer ZAYN is 30.
Pop/soul singer Ella Henderson (TV: “The X Factor”) is 27.
A little lower... 51.
Fixed it.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 10:37:28 AM
Todays's Over/Under is 6
Raz Over/Under is 8
Eight. And I'm not including myself. Rush Limbaugh used to be on this list too.
But gladly he no longer is.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 10:41:43 AM
Todays's Over/Under is 6
Raz Over/Under is 8
Eight. And I'm not including myself. Rush Limbaugh used to be on this list too.
But gladly he no longer is.
I wasn't saying THAT. I'm never wishing death on anyone. Personally, I don't miss him except he would have brought me to 9.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 10:46:42 AM
Raz is not going to be happy this morning.  Jeff Beck is dead at 78.
I posted it on the banter last night. Spent the evening blasting "Truth," "Blow By Blow", and "Emotion and Commotion."

I am NOT happy. This one hurts more than others. All my guitarist friends express the same sentiment, and we don't really know why it hurts more.

Maybe it's because after an uneven career and a deserved reputation as a perfectionist dick in the first half of his career, he'd settled down and found focus and humor in the second half.

Maybe it's just that we aren't inundated with the weight of catalog like we are with Page or Clapton.

Maybe it's because despite being the earliest of the British guitar heroes, he never achieved the fame that the others did, and that speaks to devoted plodders like me.

Or maybe it's this: among devoted students of the electric guitar, there's a suspicion, even a cognitive dissonance around the idea that Jeff Beck might be the best. Better than Hendrix, better than Van Halen. Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Townshend, and Van Halen all established a certain sound and style and then pretty much stuck to that thing.

But with each album, Beck was different. He kept evolving, building on what he was discovering, until by the early 90s he had developed this utterly unique voice on the guitar that was all in his empty hands. It was unmistakable, and to really get the majesty of it, you have to be a guitarist. Non-players don't get the complexity of the mechanical and cognitive process of playing like Beck. There are millions of hacks who can play like EVH, but the very most expert guitarists will tell you that imitating Beck is nearly impossible to do.

And no one is doing anything remotely compareable. It isn't about speed, or two-handed tapping, or expert wielding of a slide. It's about texture, how the notes emerge from the speaker. With Beck, each note had its own texture, and he did that with just this hands. No pick, no big pedalboard, no fancy effects processors, just his hands, especially his right hand, simultaneously plucking the notes, controlling the volume knob, and working the vibrato bar. It's a miraculous display of dexterity and brains. And Beck made the guitar sound like it was human.

Maybe it is the loss of this that hurts so much.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 10:56:18 AM
Here, listen to this, if you want to hear what I'm describing.

https://youtu.be/1hvZd0DMHVw
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 10:59:00 AM
Today’s birthdays:

The Amazing Kreskin is 88.
Country singer William Lee Golden (The Oak Ridge Boys) is 84.
Actor Anthony Andrews is 75.
Movie director Wayne Wang is 74.
Legal affairs blogger Ann Althouse is 72.
Writer Walter Mosley is 71.
Country singer Ricky Van Shelton is 71.
Radio-TV personality Howard Stern is 69.
Writer-producer-director John Lasseter is 66.
Broadcast journalist Christiane Amanpour is 65.
Actor Oliver Platt is 63.
Basketball Hall of Famer Dominique Wilkins is 63.
Entrepreneur Jeff Bezos is 59.
Rock singer Rob Zombie is 58.
Actor Olivier Martinez is 57.
Model Vendela is 56.
Actor Rachael Harris is 55.
Tony is in here someplace...
Rock singer Zack de la Rocha is 53.
Rapper Raekwon (Wu Tang Clan) is 53.
Actor Zabryna Guevara is 51.
Singer Dan Haseltine (Jars of Clay) is 50.
Singer Melanie Chisholm (Spice Girls) is 49.
Contemporary Christian singer Jeremy Camp is 45.
Actor Cynthia Addai-Robinson is 43.
R&B singer Amerie is 43.
Actor Issa Rae is 38.
Actor Will Rothhaar is 36.
Actor Andrew Lawrence is 35.
Rock singer ZAYN is 30.
Pop/soul singer Ella Henderson (TV: “The X Factor”) is 27.
A little lower... 51.
And just like that, I'd already forgotten. Happy birthday, Mayor!
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 11:00:35 AM
Todays's Over/Under is 6
Raz Over/Under is 8
8. And I AM counting Tony.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 11:15:19 AM
Raz is not going to be happy this morning.  Jeff Beck is dead at 78.
I posted it on the banter last night. Spent the evening blasting "Truth," "Blow By Blow", and "Emotion and Commotion."

I am NOT happy. This one hurts more than others. All my guitarist friends express the same sentiment, and we don't really know why it hurts more.

Maybe it's because after an uneven career and a deserved reputation as a perfectionist dick in the first half of his career, he'd settled down and found focus and humor in the second half.

Maybe it's just that we aren't inundated with the weight of catalog like we are with Page or Clapton.

Maybe it's because despite being the earliest of the British guitar heroes, he never achieved the fame that the others did, and that speaks to devoted plodders like me.

Or maybe it's this: among devoted students of the electric guitar, there's a suspicion, even a cognitive dissonance around the idea that Jeff Beck might be the best. Better than Hendrix, better than Van Halen. Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Townshend, and Van Halen all established a certain sound and style and then pretty much stuck to that thing.

But with each album, Beck was different. He kept evolving, building on what he was discovering, until by the early 90s he had developed this utterly unique voice on the guitar that was all in his empty hands. It was unmistakable, and to really get the majesty of it, you have to be a guitarist. Non-players don't get the complexity of the mechanical and cognitive process of playing like Beck. There are millions of hacks who can play like EVH, but the very most expert guitarists will tell you that imitating Beck is nearly impossible to do.

And no one is doing anything remotely compareable. It isn't about speed, or two-handed tapping, or expert wielding of a slide. It's about texture, how the notes emerge from the speaker. With Beck, each note had its own texture, and he did that with just this hands. No pick, no big pedalboard, no fancy effects processors, just his hands, especially his right hand, simultaneously plucking the notes, controlling the volume knob, and working the vibrato bar. It's a miraculous display of dexterity and brains. And Beck made the guitar sound like it was human.

Maybe it is the loss of this that hurts so much.
That's very well articulated. Indeed, a terrible loss.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 11:17:04 AM
Today’s birthdays:

The Amazing Kreskin is 88.
Country singer William Lee Golden (The Oak Ridge Boys) is 84.
Actor Anthony Andrews is 75.
Movie director Wayne Wang is 74.
Legal affairs blogger Ann Althouse is 72.
Writer Walter Mosley is 71.
Country singer Ricky Van Shelton is 71.
Radio-TV personality Howard Stern is 69.
Writer-producer-director John Lasseter is 66.
Broadcast journalist Christiane Amanpour is 65.
Actor Oliver Platt is 63.
Basketball Hall of Famer Dominique Wilkins is 63.
Entrepreneur Jeff Bezos is 59.
Rock singer Rob Zombie is 58.
Actor Olivier Martinez is 57.
Model Vendela is 56.
Actor Rachael Harris is 55.
Tony is in here someplace...
Rock singer Zack de la Rocha is 53.
Rapper Raekwon (Wu Tang Clan) is 53.
Actor Zabryna Guevara is 51.
Singer Dan Haseltine (Jars of Clay) is 50.
Singer Melanie Chisholm (Spice Girls) is 49.
Contemporary Christian singer Jeremy Camp is 45.
Actor Cynthia Addai-Robinson is 43.
R&B singer Amerie is 43.
Actor Issa Rae is 38.
Actor Will Rothhaar is 36.
Actor Andrew Lawrence is 35.
Rock singer ZAYN is 30.
Pop/soul singer Ella Henderson (TV: “The X Factor”) is 27.
A little lower... 51.
And just like that, I'd already forgotten. Happy birthday, Mayor!
Thank you. Woke up on the right side of the dirt so all is well. Now I'm trying to figure out what's for lunch. Purposely didn't pack one today.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 11:26:13 AM
Smoking allowed in the House again:

https://halfwheel.com/smoking-now-allowed-in-house-side-of-congress/417944/?fbclid=IwAR3yP7V49FNzdmn6LfvlGeEmOC_eltLueQCyknx15LkiD6oQnO_Lcrv_YLM
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 11:38:24 AM
Smoking allowed in the House again:

https://halfwheel.com/smoking-now-allowed-in-house-side-of-congress/417944/?fbclid=IwAR3yP7V49FNzdmn6LfvlGeEmOC_eltLueQCyknx15LkiD6oQnO_Lcrv_YLM
That's very interesting.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 11:52:58 AM
Potato soup in the crockpot for dinner, starting to smell all kinds of delicious here.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 11:54:12 AM
Smoking allowed in the House again:

https://halfwheel.com/smoking-now-allowed-in-house-side-of-congress/417944/?fbclid=IwAR3yP7V49FNzdmn6LfvlGeEmOC_eltLueQCyknx15LkiD6oQnO_Lcrv_YLM
That's very interesting.
Agreed, I didn't realize that could be an option in a government building. Learn something new every day.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 12:11:23 PM
Todays's Over/Under is 6
Raz Over/Under is 8
Thirteen, including Tony.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 12:15:07 PM
Potato soup in the crockpot for dinner, starting to smell all kinds of delicious here.
That does sound good. Is it a recipe you'd share?
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 12:56:44 PM
And just like that, I'd already forgotten. Happy birthday, Mayor!
Thank you. Woke up on the right side of the dirt so all is well. Now I'm trying to figure out what's for lunch. Purposely didn't pack one today.
Went with a Vietnamese seafood pho.

Edit: it was amazing.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 01:05:28 PM
Potato soup in the crockpot for dinner, starting to smell all kinds of delicious here.
That does sound good. Is it a recipe you'd share?
Nothing spectacular. A bag of cubed potatoes, 32 ounce chicken broth, some chopped onions and a can of cream of chicken soup. Then about an hour before it's done, add an 8 ounce bar of softened cream cheese, cut up into pieces. Mix and serve. And we have scallions, shredded cheese and bacon pieces to top it with.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 01:39:01 PM
Looks like the potential neutral site Bills/Chiefs game will be played in Hotlanta.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 01:40:28 PM
Potato soup in the crockpot for dinner, starting to smell all kinds of delicious here.
That does sound good. Is it a recipe you'd share?
Nothing spectacular. A bag of cubed potatoes, 32 ounce chicken broth, some chopped onions and a can of cream of chicken soup. Then about an hour before it's done, add an 8 ounce bar of softened cream cheese, cut up into pieces. Mix and serve. And we have scallions, shredded cheese and bacon pieces to top it with.
Interesting and worth a try.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 01:47:08 PM
Potato soup in the crockpot for dinner, starting to smell all kinds of delicious here.
That does sound good. Is it a recipe you'd share?
Nothing spectacular. A bag of cubed potatoes, 32 ounce chicken broth, some chopped onions and a can of cream of chicken soup. Then about an hour before it's done, add an 8 ounce bar of softened cream cheese, cut up into pieces. Mix and serve. And we have scallions, shredded cheese and bacon pieces to top it with.
Interesting and worth a try.
It's quite good, I was pleasantly surprised the first time we had it. Even the middle kid wanted seconds, and she spent most of the week dreading that dinner. Lol
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 01:47:58 PM
Potato soup in the crockpot for dinner, starting to smell all kinds of delicious here.
That does sound good. Is it a recipe you'd share?
Nothing spectacular. A bag of cubed potatoes, 32 ounce chicken broth, some chopped onions and a can of cream of chicken soup. Then about an hour before it's done, add an 8 ounce bar of softened cream cheese, cut up into pieces. Mix and serve. And we have scallions, shredded cheese and bacon pieces to top it with.
Interesting and worth a try.
It's quite good, I was pleasantly surprised the first time we had it. Even the middle kid wanted seconds, and she spent most of the week dreading that dinner. Lol
Plus, it's hard to argue with the cooking method of throw a bunch of stuff in a pot and then several hours later, dinner is ready.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 02:00:55 PM
I started reading a really fascinating book last night, "The Second World Wars: How the First Global War was Fought and Won" by Victor Davis Hanson. He sets out to deconstruct the mythos of the monolithic "Second World War" into its various components - regional conflicts in the eyes of the Axis powers that interconnected in the eyes of the Allies into a global effort that the Axis powers completely misunderstood and for which they were hopelessly ill-prepared.

It's really a different view on WWII, and I'm enjoying it immensely.

What he seems to be laying out is that leaders in the US and Great Britain saw the various battlegrounds in global terms while the Axis powers, and Russia, approached it as Theater Warfare, and simply lacked the historical perspective to think of it globally. Britain being an imperial power, and the US being a former colony and by then a colonial power in its own right, both had the necessary perspective. The Axis, lacking that perspective, therefore couldn't see that their intentions were ultimately futile.  So they stumbled blindly into the first global war lacking the necessary means to win it, because they couldn't think holistically.

Really, really fascinating, and I'm not even a third of the way into it.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 02:06:07 PM
Raz is not going to be happy this morning.  Jeff Beck is dead at 78.
I posted it on the banter last night. Spent the evening blasting "Truth," "Blow By Blow", and "Emotion and Commotion."

I am NOT happy. This one hurts more than others. All my guitarist friends express the same sentiment, and we don't really know why it hurts more.

Maybe it's because after an uneven career and a deserved reputation as a perfectionist dick in the first half of his career, he'd settled down and found focus and humor in the second half.

Maybe it's just that we aren't inundated with the weight of catalog like we are with Page or Clapton.

Maybe it's because despite being the earliest of the British guitar heroes, he never achieved the fame that the others did, and that speaks to devoted plodders like me.

Or maybe it's this: among devoted students of the electric guitar, there's a suspicion, even a cognitive dissonance around the idea that Jeff Beck might be the best. Better than Hendrix, better than Van Halen. Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Townshend, and Van Halen all established a certain sound and style and then pretty much stuck to that thing.

But with each album, Beck was different. He kept evolving, building on what he was discovering, until by the early 90s he had developed this utterly unique voice on the guitar that was all in his empty hands. It was unmistakable, and to really get the majesty of it, you have to be a guitarist. Non-players don't get the complexity of the mechanical and cognitive process of playing like Beck. There are millions of hacks who can play like EVH, but the very most expert guitarists will tell you that imitating Beck is nearly impossible to do.

And no one is doing anything remotely compareable. It isn't about speed, or two-handed tapping, or expert wielding of a slide. It's about texture, how the notes emerge from the speaker. With Beck, each note had its own texture, and he did that with just this hands. No pick, no big pedalboard, no fancy effects processors, just his hands, especially his right hand, simultaneously plucking the notes, controlling the volume knob, and working the vibrato bar. It's a miraculous display of dexterity and brains. And Beck made the guitar sound like it was human.

Maybe it is the loss of this that hurts so much.
Luckily we live in an age where that catalog is captured for eternity for those like you to continue to enjoy and for others to newly discover.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 02:06:32 PM
A quote from the book:

"Most wars since antiquity can be defined as the result of such flawed prewar assessments of relative military and economic strength as well as strategic objectives. Prewar Nazi Germany had no accurate idea of how powerful were Great Britain, the United States, and the Soviet Union; and the latter had no inkling of the full scope of Hitler’s military ambitions. It took a world war to educate them all."
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 02:07:49 PM
Potato soup in the crockpot for dinner, starting to smell all kinds of delicious here.
That does sound good. Is it a recipe you'd share?
Nothing spectacular. A bag of cubed potatoes, 32 ounce chicken broth, some chopped onions and a can of cream of chicken soup. Then about an hour before it's done, add an 8 ounce bar of softened cream cheese, cut up into pieces. Mix and serve. And we have scallions, shredded cheese and bacon pieces to top it with.
Bacon is a must!
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 02:11:41 PM
I started reading a really fascinating book last night, "The Second World Wars: How the First Global War was Fought and Won" by Victor Davis Hanson. He sets out to deconstruct the mythos of the monolithic "Second World War" into its various components - regional conflicts in the eyes of the Axis powers that interconnected in the eyes of the Allies into a global effort that the Axis powers completely misunderstood and for which they were hopelessly ill-prepared.

It's really a different view on WWII, and I'm enjoying it immensely.

What he seems to be laying out is that leaders in the US and Great Britain saw the various battlegrounds in global terms while the Axis powers, and Russia, approached it as Theater Warfare, and simply lacked the historical perspective to think of it globally. Britain being an imperial power, and the US being a former colony and by then a colonial power in its own right, both had the necessary perspective. The Axis, lacking that perspective, therefore couldn't see that their intentions were ultimately futile.  So they stumbled blindly into the first global war lacking the necessary means to win it, because they couldn't think holistically.

Really, really fascinating, and I'm not even a third of the way into it.
I'm a little confused...is it about the first, second or both World Wars?
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 02:14:24 PM
61 degrees on a little Friday afternoon.  Really like this cigar!
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 02:18:51 PM
Smoking allowed in the House again:

https://halfwheel.com/smoking-now-allowed-in-house-side-of-congress/417944/?fbclid=IwAR3yP7V49FNzdmn6LfvlGeEmOC_eltLueQCyknx15LkiD6oQnO_Lcrv_YLM
And apparently so is carrying firearms as metal detectors have been removed.
Now all we need is an open bar and the House can be REALLY interesting.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 02:21:57 PM
Smoking allowed in the House again:

https://halfwheel.com/smoking-now-allowed-in-house-side-of-congress/417944/?fbclid=IwAR3yP7V49FNzdmn6LfvlGeEmOC_eltLueQCyknx15LkiD6oQnO_Lcrv_YLM
And apparently so is carrying firearms as metal detectors have been removed.
Now all we need is an open bar and the House can be REALLY interesting.
I'm sure they all have a flask in a drawer somewhere. I sure as hell would.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 02:22:07 PM
Hazzuh!
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 03:38:40 PM
I started reading a really fascinating book last night, "The Second World Wars: How the First Global War was Fought and Won" by Victor Davis Hanson. He sets out to deconstruct the mythos of the monolithic "Second World War" into its various components - regional conflicts in the eyes of the Axis powers that interconnected in the eyes of the Allies into a global effort that the Axis powers completely misunderstood and for which they were hopelessly ill-prepared.

It's really a different view on WWII, and I'm enjoying it immensely.

What he seems to be laying out is that leaders in the US and Great Britain saw the various battlegrounds in global terms while the Axis powers, and Russia, approached it as Theater Warfare, and simply lacked the historical perspective to think of it globally. Britain being an imperial power, and the US being a former colony and by then a colonial power in its own right, both had the necessary perspective. The Axis, lacking that perspective, therefore couldn't see that their intentions were ultimately futile.  So they stumbled blindly into the first global war lacking the necessary means to win it, because they couldn't think holistically.

Really, really fascinating, and I'm not even a third of the way into it.
I'm a little confused...is it about the first, second or both World Wars?
Just WWII. The plural in the title references the notion that what we call WWII was actually a network of campaigns fought in different places under different conditions and with different motivations and stakes.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 12, 2023, 04:57:05 PM
It seems ABs have been replaced by La Perlas today.
Looks like a real Menace
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 12, 2023, 04:59:31 PM
Is it Friday yet?
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 12, 2023, 05:02:39 PM
Raz is not going to be happy this morning.  Jeff Beck is dead at 78.
I posted it on the banter last night. Spent the evening blasting "Truth," "Blow By Blow", and "Emotion and Commotion."

I am NOT happy. This one hurts more than others. All my guitarist friends express the same sentiment, and we don't really know why it hurts more.

Maybe it's because after an uneven career and a deserved reputation as a perfectionist dick in the first half of his career, he'd settled down and found focus and humor in the second half.

Maybe it's just that we aren't inundated with the weight of catalog like we are with Page or Clapton.

Maybe it's because despite being the earliest of the British guitar heroes, he never achieved the fame that the others did, and that speaks to devoted plodders like me.

Or maybe it's this: among devoted students of the electric guitar, there's a suspicion, even a cognitive dissonance around the idea that Jeff Beck might be the best. Better than Hendrix, better than Van Halen. Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Townshend, and Van Halen all established a certain sound and style and then pretty much stuck to that thing.

But with each album, Beck was different. He kept evolving, building on what he was discovering, until by the early 90s he had developed this utterly unique voice on the guitar that was all in his empty hands. It was unmistakable, and to really get the majesty of it, you have to be a guitarist. Non-players don't get the complexity of the mechanical and cognitive process of playing like Beck. There are millions of hacks who can play like EVH, but the very most expert guitarists will tell you that imitating Beck is nearly impossible to do.

And no one is doing anything remotely compareable. It isn't about speed, or two-handed tapping, or expert wielding of a slide. It's about texture, how the notes emerge from the speaker. With Beck, each note had its own texture, and he did that with just this hands. No pick, no big pedalboard, no fancy effects processors, just his hands, especially his right hand, simultaneously plucking the notes, controlling the volume knob, and working the vibrato bar. It's a miraculous display of dexterity and brains. And Beck made the guitar sound like it was human.

Maybe it is the loss of this that hurts so much.
I feel your pain but am I wrong to be not as sad because he was 78 and lived a good life?
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 12, 2023, 05:08:02 PM
Happy birthday T? I'm trying to pay attention. Does the Chief have a Birthday today?
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 05:39:24 PM
Raz is not going to be happy this morning.  Jeff Beck is dead at 78.
I posted it on the banter last night. Spent the evening blasting "Truth," "Blow By Blow", and "Emotion and Commotion."

I am NOT happy. This one hurts more than others. All my guitarist friends express the same sentiment, and we don't really know why it hurts more.

Maybe it's because after an uneven career and a deserved reputation as a perfectionist dick in the first half of his career, he'd settled down and found focus and humor in the second half.

Maybe it's just that we aren't inundated with the weight of catalog like we are with Page or Clapton.

Maybe it's because despite being the earliest of the British guitar heroes, he never achieved the fame that the others did, and that speaks to devoted plodders like me.

Or maybe it's this: among devoted students of the electric guitar, there's a suspicion, even a cognitive dissonance around the idea that Jeff Beck might be the best. Better than Hendrix, better than Van Halen. Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Townshend, and Van Halen all established a certain sound and style and then pretty much stuck to that thing.

But with each album, Beck was different. He kept evolving, building on what he was discovering, until by the early 90s he had developed this utterly unique voice on the guitar that was all in his empty hands. It was unmistakable, and to really get the majesty of it, you have to be a guitarist. Non-players don't get the complexity of the mechanical and cognitive process of playing like Beck. There are millions of hacks who can play like EVH, but the very most expert guitarists will tell you that imitating Beck is nearly impossible to do.

And no one is doing anything remotely compareable. It isn't about speed, or two-handed tapping, or expert wielding of a slide. It's about texture, how the notes emerge from the speaker. With Beck, each note had its own texture, and he did that with just this hands. No pick, no big pedalboard, no fancy effects processors, just his hands, especially his right hand, simultaneously plucking the notes, controlling the volume knob, and working the vibrato bar. It's a miraculous display of dexterity and brains. And Beck made the guitar sound like it was human.

Maybe it is the loss of this that hurts so much.
I feel your pain but am I wrong to be not as sad because he was 78 and lived a good life?
No, but we never grieve for the dead, do we? They're dead, and beyond caring. We grieve, rather, for ourselves, for the loss of them.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: bluecollar on January 12, 2023, 05:55:00 PM
Raz is not going to be happy this morning.  Jeff Beck is dead at 78.
I posted it on the banter last night. Spent the evening blasting "Truth," "Blow By Blow", and "Emotion and Commotion."

I am NOT happy. This one hurts more than others. All my guitarist friends express the same sentiment, and we don't really know why it hurts more.

Maybe it's because after an uneven career and a deserved reputation as a perfectionist dick in the first half of his career, he'd settled down and found focus and humor in the second half.

Maybe it's just that we aren't inundated with the weight of catalog like we are with Page or Clapton.

Maybe it's because despite being the earliest of the British guitar heroes, he never achieved the fame that the others did, and that speaks to devoted plodders like me.

Or maybe it's this: among devoted students of the electric guitar, there's a suspicion, even a cognitive dissonance around the idea that Jeff Beck might be the best. Better than Hendrix, better than Van Halen. Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Townshend, and Van Halen all established a certain sound and style and then pretty much stuck to that thing.

But with each album, Beck was different. He kept evolving, building on what he was discovering, until by the early 90s he had developed this utterly unique voice on the guitar that was all in his empty hands. It was unmistakable, and to really get the majesty of it, you have to be a guitarist. Non-players don't get the complexity of the mechanical and cognitive process of playing like Beck. There are millions of hacks who can play like EVH, but the very most expert guitarists will tell you that imitating Beck is nearly impossible to do.

And no one is doing anything remotely compareable. It isn't about speed, or two-handed tapping, or expert wielding of a slide. It's about texture, how the notes emerge from the speaker. With Beck, each note had its own texture, and he did that with just this hands. No pick, no big pedalboard, no fancy effects processors, just his hands, especially his right hand, simultaneously plucking the notes, controlling the volume knob, and working the vibrato bar. It's a miraculous display of dexterity and brains. And Beck made the guitar sound like it was human.

Maybe it is the loss of this that hurts so much.
I feel your pain but am I wrong to be not as sad because he was 78 and lived a good life?
No, but we never grieve for the dead, do we? They're dead, and beyond caring. We grieve, rather, for ourselves, for the loss of them.
I understand
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: LuvTooGolf on January 12, 2023, 06:16:03 PM
What a day this turned out to be. Going to pick up the kids and suddenly, my car sounds like an airplane taxiing to the runway. Must've busted something on the muffler. So when we got home, I dropped it off at a nearby repair shop so they can look at it in the morning. And since the wife is at work, that means I had to walk home. And nearby is a relative term in the wind and rain. 1.8 miles, to be specific. Made it home in 30 minutes and now about 20 minutes later, I can finally feel my feet again. Sheesh.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 07:18:25 PM
Raz is not going to be happy this morning.  Jeff Beck is dead at 78.
I posted it on the banter last night. Spent the evening blasting "Truth," "Blow By Blow", and "Emotion and Commotion."

I am NOT happy. This one hurts more than others. All my guitarist friends express the same sentiment, and we don't really know why it hurts more.

Maybe it's because after an uneven career and a deserved reputation as a perfectionist dick in the first half of his career, he'd settled down and found focus and humor in the second half.

Maybe it's just that we aren't inundated with the weight of catalog like we are with Page or Clapton.

Maybe it's because despite being the earliest of the British guitar heroes, he never achieved the fame that the others did, and that speaks to devoted plodders like me.

Or maybe it's this: among devoted students of the electric guitar, there's a suspicion, even a cognitive dissonance around the idea that Jeff Beck might be the best. Better than Hendrix, better than Van Halen. Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Townshend, and Van Halen all established a certain sound and style and then pretty much stuck to that thing.

But with each album, Beck was different. He kept evolving, building on what he was discovering, until by the early 90s he had developed this utterly unique voice on the guitar that was all in his empty hands. It was unmistakable, and to really get the majesty of it, you have to be a guitarist. Non-players don't get the complexity of the mechanical and cognitive process of playing like Beck. There are millions of hacks who can play like EVH, but the very most expert guitarists will tell you that imitating Beck is nearly impossible to do.

And no one is doing anything remotely compareable. It isn't about speed, or two-handed tapping, or expert wielding of a slide. It's about texture, how the notes emerge from the speaker. With Beck, each note had its own texture, and he did that with just this hands. No pick, no big pedalboard, no fancy effects processors, just his hands, especially his right hand, simultaneously plucking the notes, controlling the volume knob, and working the vibrato bar. It's a miraculous display of dexterity and brains. And Beck made the guitar sound like it was human.

Maybe it is the loss of this that hurts so much.
That's very well articulated. Indeed, a terrible loss.
Jimmy Page tweeted:

The six stringed Warrior is no longer here for us to admire the spell he could weave around our mortal emotions. Jeff could channel music from the ethereal.

His technique unique. His imaginations apparently limitless. Jeff I will miss you along with your millions of fans. Jeff Beck Rest in Peace.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 07:19:41 PM
Happy birthday T? I'm trying to pay attention. Does the Chief have a Birthday today?
Yes sir. Thank you.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on January 12, 2023, 07:22:17 PM
What a day this turned out to be. Going to pick up the kids and suddenly, my car sounds like an airplane taxiing to the runway. Must've busted something on the muffler. So when we got home, I dropped it off at a nearby repair shop so they can look at it in the morning. And since the wife is at work, that means I had to walk home. And nearby is a relative term in the wind and rain. 1.8 miles, to be specific. Made it home in 30 minutes and now about 20 minutes later, I can finally feel my feet again. Sheesh.
I definitely would have walked on a nice day. Might even have lit a cigar. Today, I would have Uber'd.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 08:02:55 PM
What a day this turned out to be. Going to pick up the kids and suddenly, my car sounds like an airplane taxiing to the runway. Must've busted something on the muffler. So when we got home, I dropped it off at a nearby repair shop so they can look at it in the morning. And since the wife is at work, that means I had to walk home. And nearby is a relative term in the wind and rain. 1.8 miles, to be specific. Made it home in 30 minutes and now about 20 minutes later, I can finally feel my feet again. Sheesh.
I definitely would have walked on a nice day. Might even have lit a cigar. Today, I would have Uber'd.
Yes, LTG, get with the times or quit your bellyaching.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 08:26:50 PM
Raz is not going to be happy this morning.  Jeff Beck is dead at 78.
I posted it on the banter last night. Spent the evening blasting "Truth," "Blow By Blow", and "Emotion and Commotion."

I am NOT happy. This one hurts more than others. All my guitarist friends express the same sentiment, and we don't really know why it hurts more.

Maybe it's because after an uneven career and a deserved reputation as a perfectionist dick in the first half of his career, he'd settled down and found focus and humor in the second half.

Maybe it's just that we aren't inundated with the weight of catalog like we are with Page or Clapton.

Maybe it's because despite being the earliest of the British guitar heroes, he never achieved the fame that the others did, and that speaks to devoted plodders like me.

Or maybe it's this: among devoted students of the electric guitar, there's a suspicion, even a cognitive dissonance around the idea that Jeff Beck might be the best. Better than Hendrix, better than Van Halen. Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Townshend, and Van Halen all established a certain sound and style and then pretty much stuck to that thing.

But with each album, Beck was different. He kept evolving, building on what he was discovering, until by the early 90s he had developed this utterly unique voice on the guitar that was all in his empty hands. It was unmistakable, and to really get the majesty of it, you have to be a guitarist. Non-players don't get the complexity of the mechanical and cognitive process of playing like Beck. There are millions of hacks who can play like EVH, but the very most expert guitarists will tell you that imitating Beck is nearly impossible to do.

And no one is doing anything remotely compareable. It isn't about speed, or two-handed tapping, or expert wielding of a slide. It's about texture, how the notes emerge from the speaker. With Beck, each note had its own texture, and he did that with just this hands. No pick, no big pedalboard, no fancy effects processors, just his hands, especially his right hand, simultaneously plucking the notes, controlling the volume knob, and working the vibrato bar. It's a miraculous display of dexterity and brains. And Beck made the guitar sound like it was human.

Maybe it is the loss of this that hurts so much.
That's very well articulated. Indeed, a terrible loss.
Jimmy Page tweeted:

The six stringed Warrior is no longer here for us to admire the spell he could weave around our mortal emotions. Jeff could channel music from the ethereal.

His technique unique. His imaginations apparently limitless. Jeff I will miss you along with your millions of fans. Jeff Beck Rest in Peace.
Jimmy gets it.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: razgueado on January 12, 2023, 08:55:38 PM
Jesus...now there are reports Lisa Marie Presley is dead.
Title: Re: 1/12/2023
Post by: Travellin Dave on January 12, 2023, 09:30:28 PM
Jesus...now there are reports Lisa Marie Presley is dead.
Yes, dead at 54.