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[flip from jersey]

The box of Partagas P2 I got last night were markedly richer-looking than what I've gotten in the past. Darker and oilier. Spooked me a little, had to do all the checks for counterfeit. Everything checks out, though. And word is these have improved lately.

I've had the same thing happen with Monte #2's

Yeah, and obviously Havanas are simply not going to be rigidly consistent over time, given how they're made.  No cigar really is - nor should it be, actually.  But there's that mindset that's hard to break out of, and outside Cuba manufacturers try harder to adapt to it.  And let's face it, when you're dealing with contraband you're always suspicious.

But I'll tell ya, those are some really nice-looking cigars, and they smell amazing.  It was real hard not to light one up, harder still knowing these are going to be in the humidor a long time before any get smoked.

That's the hard part.  I don't mind putting cigars away for a bit, but I don't like having to do it to get a smokable cigar.  Allowing for recovery from transit, I expect a cigar to be ready to smoke upon reciept or pick up from a B&M.

I've smoked CCs after a rest of a couple of weeks and they seemed fine.  But they get better with age.  With these, it's more a matter that I've got 5 Lusitanias, three P2s, three D4s, a Hoyo Epicure, and a couple of petite coronas to get through before I start on this box.  And since I only smoke Cubans about once a month, and some months I'm smoking other people's Cubans, it'll be a year before this box gets touched.

Nothing better than buying a box, burying it, and forgetting about it for a year or two

I don't know waking up with two obviously satisfied nyphomaniacal supermodels, in your bed
might beat finding a forgotten box of cigars.  especially if they want to stay, and invite more girlfriends.

Yea, I have that problem all the time.

I always am concerned, do you chase the girls off the bed to change the sheets, before the others arrive, or do
you not have a preference between high thread count Egyptian cotton, or the satin sheets? 

[Travellin Dave]

And with that gents, I'm out....time for a pint or two with companion cigars.  See ya in the AM.

[BackyardSmoker]

We happen to be in the market share of the educated discernible consumer,(OK you guys are, I still like some gurkha  cigars!).  we long for the cigar that smokes well above it's price point.  How many times have you had this question from a noob: "what are you smoking is it a cuban, is it a cohiba?"

I liked the movie Scarface, and he only smoked Cubans. Only the best! 

[BackyardSmoker]

And with that gents, I'm out....time for a pint or two with companion cigars.  See ya in the AM.

Take care, Dave.

[flip from jersey]

And with that gents, I'm out....time for a pint or two with companion cigars.  See ya in the AM.

while you are there, try a pint of Harp lager, from the tap effing amazing stuff!

[A Friend of Charlie]

Holy shit, I just saw the PDR AFR-75 Edmundos on cigarmonster.com.  I have one in my portable humi, must've gotten it from CF.  Didn't realize they were so expensive.  Just figured it was a throwaway.  Anyone smoke one?

So, now your review is going to be tainted because of the price/value expectation. Not knowing may have led you believe it was okay for a $4-$5 smoke. Now you know it's $13... Oy will hate it!

I'll try not to let it bias me, but the cigar would have to blow me to be worth $13.   

Ring gauge?

58.  Another reason it wasn't on my short list.

[BackyardSmoker]

And with that gents, I'm out....time for a pint or two with companion cigars.  See ya in the AM.

while you are there, try a pint of Harp lager, from the tap effing amazing stuff!

I could actually have Guinness for every meal of the day.

[TRO]

And with that gents, I'm out....time for a pint or two with companion cigars.  See ya in the AM.

while you are there, try a pint of Harp lager, from the tap effing amazing stuff!

I could actually have Guinness for every meal of the day.

Steve, I love that stuff.

[CigarGuy87]

Lunch down, meeting at 1:30...then cruise control for the rest of the day

[dogdays]

And with that gents, I'm out....time for a pint or two with companion cigars.  See ya in the AM.

while you are there, try a pint of Harp lager, from the tap effing amazing stuff!

I could actually have Guinness for every meal of the day.

Steve, I love that stuff.

+1

[razgueado]

Holy shit, I just saw the PDR AFR-75 Edmundos on cigarmonster.com.  I have one in my portable humi, must've gotten it from CF.  Didn't realize they were so expensive.  Just figured it was a throwaway.  Anyone smoke one?

I'll have to check out the moochidor, see if I kept that one. Cause you're right, a PDR would've gone straight in there for me.

I know PDRs don't get much love here, so I've avoided them.  But I liked these: http://goo.gl/EQokq4

So I'm hopeful that this could be a decent stick.

High price is no indication  of how good or bad it is imo  .

While I agree with that, price is the basis of most comparison... in a retail market. The quality could be there, but most aren't necessarily going to overspend for something you could get comparable for much less. Because much less means more cigars at the end of the day.

In theory.  But most don't do the necessary homework to find out what is actually "comparable for less."  Most won't even bother to ask themselves what it is they like or dislike about a cigar, and taste is really subjective.  So the comparisons can get skewed.

And those are probably the people that don't have a budget and come from the money is no object mentality. I, unfortunately, am not in that group. I can't buy things just because of the 'label'.

Those for whom money is no object have none of their own.

[A Friend of Charlie]

Forza Azzuri!!!

[razgueado]

The box of Partagas P2 I got last night were markedly richer-looking than what I've gotten in the past. Darker and oilier. Spooked me a little, had to do all the checks for counterfeit. Everything checks out, though. And word is these have improved lately.

I've had the same thing happen with Monte #2's

Yeah, and obviously Havanas are simply not going to be rigidly consistent over time, given how they're made.  No cigar really is - nor should it be, actually.  But there's that mindset that's hard to break out of, and outside Cuba manufacturers try harder to adapt to it.  And let's face it, when you're dealing with contraband you're always suspicious.

But I'll tell ya, those are some really nice-looking cigars, and they smell amazing.  It was real hard not to light one up, harder still knowing these are going to be in the humidor a long time before any get smoked.

That's the hard part.  I don't mind putting cigars away for a bit, but I don't like having to do it to get a smokable cigar.  Allowing for recovery from transit, I expect a cigar to be ready to smoke upon reciept or pick up from a B&M.

I've smoked CCs after a rest of a couple of weeks and they seemed fine.  But they get better with age.  With these, it's more a matter that I've got 5 Lusitanias, three P2s, three D4s, a Hoyo Epicure, and a couple of petite coronas to get through before I start on this box.  And since I only smoke Cubans about once a month, and some months I'm smoking other people's Cubans, it'll be a year before this box gets touched.

Nothing better than buying a box, burying it, and forgetting about it for a year or two

I don't know waking up with two obviously satisfied nyphomaniacal supermodels, in your bed
might beat finding a forgotten box of cigars.  especially if they want to stay, and invite more girlfriends.

Yea, I have that problem all the time.

I always am concerned, do you chase the girls off the bed to change the sheets, before the others arrive, or do
you not have a preference between high thread count Egyptian cotton, or the satin sheets?

Satin sheets are a pain in the ass.  You get tangled up in them at all the wrong moments.  Put the silk and satin on the women, cotton on the bed.

[flip from jersey]

Forza Azzuri!!!

what vitola do you like that in?  or is it a soccer(futbol) player or team?

[flip from jersey]

The box of Partagas P2 I got last night were markedly richer-looking than what I've gotten in the past. Darker and oilier. Spooked me a little, had to do all the checks for counterfeit. Everything checks out, though. And word is these have improved lately.

I've had the same thing happen with Monte #2's

Yeah, and obviously Havanas are simply not going to be rigidly consistent over time, given how they're made.  No cigar really is - nor should it be, actually.  But there's that mindset that's hard to break out of, and outside Cuba manufacturers try harder to adapt to it.  And let's face it, when you're dealing with contraband you're always suspicious.

But I'll tell ya, those are some really nice-looking cigars, and they smell amazing.  It was real hard not to light one up, harder still knowing these are going to be in the humidor a long time before any get smoked.

That's the hard part.  I don't mind putting cigars away for a bit, but I don't like having to do it to get a smokable cigar.  Allowing for recovery from transit, I expect a cigar to be ready to smoke upon reciept or pick up from a B&M.

I've smoked CCs after a rest of a couple of weeks and they seemed fine.  But they get better with age.  With these, it's more a matter that I've got 5 Lusitanias, three P2s, three D4s, a Hoyo Epicure, and a couple of petite coronas to get through before I start on this box.  And since I only smoke Cubans about once a month, and some months I'm smoking other people's Cubans, it'll be a year before this box gets touched.

Nothing better than buying a box, burying it, and forgetting about it for a year or two

I don't know waking up with two obviously satisfied nyphomaniacal supermodels, in your bed
might beat finding a forgotten box of cigars.  especially if they want to stay, and invite more girlfriends.

Yea, I have that problem all the time.

I always am concerned, do you chase the girls off the bed to change the sheets, before the others arrive, or do
you not have a preference between high thread count Egyptian cotton, or the satin sheets?

Satin sheets are a pain in the ass.  You get tangled up in them at all the wrong moments.  Put the silk and satin on the women, cotton on the bed.

better traction too!