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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #225 on: October 30, 2014, 01:25:42 PM »

From the Maker's site, on Maker's 46: 

We age Maker's 46® a bit longer inside barrels containing seared French oak staves. The staves create bolder, more complex flavors — while eliminating the bitterness that usually comes with whiskies that are aged longer.

So it's been done.  And it does taste different than regular Maker's.  Sorry, I don't like artificial tampering with my whiskeys!!!!  To each their own, though.
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #226 on: October 30, 2014, 01:26:28 PM »

Pretty fucking sweet...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/263766519/whiskey-elements-customize-your-whiskey-in-24-hour
If it lives up to the hype.  I know I'm a contrarian, a curmudgeon, and a skeptic, but humans have been making whiskey for nearly a thousand years (or more than a thousand years, depending on who you believe).  So...no one thought of just sticking some charred oak sticks into the barrel before?

The real magic in whiskey starts with the grains and the malting process. So I'm kinda skeptical.  But hey, I'll try anything once.
Agreed, it's almost 'too simple to be true' but it sounds like it has some solid thoughts behind it.  Even if it remotely works and doesn't screw up the whiskey flavors it still might be cool.  It would be great for the 'this could use a little more maple/smoke/caramel/vanilla/etc' person who just wants to fine tune a favorite or give it a different twist.

It's about as gimmicky as it gets and I fully expect to get these for my birthday or Christmas from someone, because this is the type of thing a non-whiskey drinker gets the person that loves whiskey.

"Time and Oak" are hardly the only two things separating the good whiskey from the bad, and it's absurd to think that.

Also, this is essentially what Maker's 46 is.  Also, you could lick a piece of wood and then take a sip of whiskey if you want more influence.
"Did someone pour caramel sauce into my whiskey?"
Would a whiskey drinker like to lick my wood?
When I lived in MO the company that turns out a large portion of the oak whiskey barrel staves was near my house, damn I could have gotten some scraps and turned the lake into high quality whiskey.
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #227 on: October 30, 2014, 01:27:47 PM »

Pretty fucking sweet...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/263766519/whiskey-elements-customize-your-whiskey-in-24-hour
If it lives up to the hype.  I know I'm a contrarian, a curmudgeon, and a skeptic, but humans have been making whiskey for nearly a thousand years (or more than a thousand years, depending on who you believe).  So...no one thought of just sticking some charred oak sticks into the barrel before?

The real magic in whiskey starts with the grains and the malting process. So I'm kinda skeptical.  But hey, I'll try anything once.
Agreed, it's almost 'too simple to be true' but it sounds like it has some solid thoughts behind it.  Even if it remotely works and doesn't screw up the whiskey flavors it still might be cool.  It would be great for the 'this could use a little more maple/smoke/caramel/vanilla/etc' person who just wants to fine tune a favorite or give it a different twist.
It seems to be roughly the same logic behind putting whiskey barrels on cargo ships to age.  The movement of the ship at sea causes the whiskey to have greater surface contact with the charred sides of the barrel.  Yadda, yadda, yadda.  They say it does something good.  I wouldn't know, personally.  So, why not stick some charred oak into a bottle?  Seems logical.  24 hours seems a little quick for it accomplish its work.  But hey, he said he tested it in a lab, so it must be true...
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #228 on: October 30, 2014, 01:30:10 PM »

From the Maker's site, on Maker's 46: 

We age Maker's 46® a bit longer inside barrels containing seared French oak staves. The staves create bolder, more complex flavors — while eliminating the bitterness that usually comes with whiskies that are aged longer.

So it's been done.  And it does taste different than regular Maker's.  Sorry, I don't like artificial tampering with my whiskeys!!!!  To each their own, though.
Pinthouse Pizza has some mighty fine bourbon barrel aged dry Irish stout I know that!  Called Jaguar Stout and they are out now but the next barrels will be tapped in mid December!
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #229 on: October 30, 2014, 01:30:43 PM »

Pretty fucking sweet...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/263766519/whiskey-elements-customize-your-whiskey-in-24-hour
If it lives up to the hype.  I know I'm a contrarian, a curmudgeon, and a skeptic, but humans have been making whiskey for nearly a thousand years (or more than a thousand years, depending on who you believe).  So...no one thought of just sticking some charred oak sticks into the barrel before?

The real magic in whiskey starts with the grains and the malting process. So I'm kinda skeptical.  But hey, I'll try anything once.
Agreed, it's almost 'too simple to be true' but it sounds like it has some solid thoughts behind it.  Even if it remotely works and doesn't screw up the whiskey flavors it still might be cool.  It would be great for the 'this could use a little more maple/smoke/caramel/vanilla/etc' person who just wants to fine tune a favorite or give it a different twist.
It seems to be roughly the same logic behind putting whiskey barrels on cargo ships to age.  The movement of the ship at sea causes the whiskey to have greater surface contact with the charred sides of the barrel.  Yadda, yadda, yadda.  They say it does something good.  I wouldn't know, personally.  So, why not stick some charred oak into a bottle?  Seems logical.  24 hours seems a little quick for it accomplish its work.  But hey, he said he tested it in a lab, so it must be true...

Aging at sea was also done.  See:  Jefferson's Ocean Aged At Sea

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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #230 on: October 30, 2014, 01:31:30 PM »

Pretty fucking sweet...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/263766519/whiskey-elements-customize-your-whiskey-in-24-hour
If it lives up to the hype.  I know I'm a contrarian, a curmudgeon, and a skeptic, but humans have been making whiskey for nearly a thousand years (or more than a thousand years, depending on who you believe).  So...no one thought of just sticking some charred oak sticks into the barrel before?

The real magic in whiskey starts with the grains and the malting process. So I'm kinda skeptical.  But hey, I'll try anything once.
Agreed, it's almost 'too simple to be true' but it sounds like it has some solid thoughts behind it.  Even if it remotely works and doesn't screw up the whiskey flavors it still might be cool.  It would be great for the 'this could use a little more maple/smoke/caramel/vanilla/etc' person who just wants to fine tune a favorite or give it a different twist.
It seems to be roughly the same logic behind putting whiskey barrels on cargo ships to age.  The movement of the ship at sea causes the whiskey to have greater surface contact with the charred sides of the barrel.  Yadda, yadda, yadda.  They say it does something good.  I wouldn't know, personally.  So, why not stick some charred oak into a bottle?  Seems logical.  24 hours seems a little quick for it accomplish its work.  But hey, he said he tested it in a lab, so it must be true...
Hahaha...it will be interesting to see.  Lots of whiskey drinkers backing the idea that's for sure.
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #231 on: October 30, 2014, 01:31:47 PM »

From the Maker's site, on Maker's 46: 

We age Maker's 46® a bit longer inside barrels containing seared French oak staves. The staves create bolder, more complex flavors — while eliminating the bitterness that usually comes with whiskies that are aged longer.

So it's been done.  And it does taste different than regular Maker's.  Sorry, I don't like artificial tampering with my whiskeys!!!!  To each their own, though.
No peanut butter whiskey! (ok, I'm done)
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #232 on: October 30, 2014, 01:33:09 PM »

Pretty fucking sweet...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/263766519/whiskey-elements-customize-your-whiskey-in-24-hour
If it lives up to the hype.  I know I'm a contrarian, a curmudgeon, and a skeptic, but humans have been making whiskey for nearly a thousand years (or more than a thousand years, depending on who you believe).  So...no one thought of just sticking some charred oak sticks into the barrel before?

The real magic in whiskey starts with the grains and the malting process. So I'm kinda skeptical.  But hey, I'll try anything once.
Agreed, it's almost 'too simple to be true' but it sounds like it has some solid thoughts behind it.  Even if it remotely works and doesn't screw up the whiskey flavors it still might be cool.  It would be great for the 'this could use a little more maple/smoke/caramel/vanilla/etc' person who just wants to fine tune a favorite or give it a different twist.
It seems to be roughly the same logic behind putting whiskey barrels on cargo ships to age.  The movement of the ship at sea causes the whiskey to have greater surface contact with the charred sides of the barrel.  Yadda, yadda, yadda.  They say it does something good.  I wouldn't know, personally.  So, why not stick some charred oak into a bottle?  Seems logical.  24 hours seems a little quick for it accomplish its work.  But hey, he said he tested it in a lab, so it must be true...
Hahaha...it will be interesting to see.  Lots of whiskey drinkers backing the idea that's for sure.

They'll make as much as the guy who created whiskey stones, which also don't work.  The gimmick/gift market is HUGE.  It's never for the whiskey drinker, it's for the person buying FOR the whiskey drinker.  Same with those mini barrels to make "home made" whiskey, which usually are just vodka and whiskey flavoring. 
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #233 on: October 30, 2014, 01:33:28 PM »

From the Maker's site, on Maker's 46: 

We age Maker's 46® a bit longer inside barrels containing seared French oak staves. The staves create bolder, more complex flavors — while eliminating the bitterness that usually comes with whiskies that are aged longer.

So it's been done.  And it does taste different than regular Maker's.  Sorry, I don't like artificial tampering with my whiskeys!!!!  To each their own, though.
No peanut butter whiskey! (ok, I'm done)

Whiskey aged in peanut butter jars?
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #234 on: October 30, 2014, 01:34:34 PM »

From the Maker's site, on Maker's 46: 

We age Maker's 46® a bit longer inside barrels containing seared French oak staves. The staves create bolder, more complex flavors — while eliminating the bitterness that usually comes with whiskies that are aged longer.

So it's been done.  And it does taste different than regular Maker's.  Sorry, I don't like artificial tampering with my whiskeys!!!!  To each their own, though.
No peanut butter whiskey! (ok, I'm done)

Whiskey aged in peanut butter jars?
Mmmm, now we are onto something!
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #235 on: October 30, 2014, 01:34:57 PM »

Pretty fucking sweet...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/263766519/whiskey-elements-customize-your-whiskey-in-24-hour
If it lives up to the hype.  I know I'm a contrarian, a curmudgeon, and a skeptic, but humans have been making whiskey for nearly a thousand years (or more than a thousand years, depending on who you believe).  So...no one thought of just sticking some charred oak sticks into the barrel before?

The real magic in whiskey starts with the grains and the malting process. So I'm kinda skeptical.  But hey, I'll try anything once.
Agreed, it's almost 'too simple to be true' but it sounds like it has some solid thoughts behind it.  Even if it remotely works and doesn't screw up the whiskey flavors it still might be cool.  It would be great for the 'this could use a little more maple/smoke/caramel/vanilla/etc' person who just wants to fine tune a favorite or give it a different twist.
It seems to be roughly the same logic behind putting whiskey barrels on cargo ships to age.  The movement of the ship at sea causes the whiskey to have greater surface contact with the charred sides of the barrel.  Yadda, yadda, yadda.  They say it does something good.  I wouldn't know, personally.  So, why not stick some charred oak into a bottle?  Seems logical.  24 hours seems a little quick for it accomplish its work.  But hey, he said he tested it in a lab, so it must be true...
Hahaha...it will be interesting to see.  Lots of whiskey drinkers backing the idea that's for sure.

They'll make as much as the guy who created whiskey stones, which also don't work.  The gimmick/gift market is HUGE.  It's never for the whiskey drinker, it's for the person buying FOR the whiskey drinker.  Same with those mini barrels to make "home made" whiskey, which usually are just vodka and whiskey flavoring.
God whiskey stones are a crock of shit...anyone want mine?
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #236 on: October 30, 2014, 01:35:37 PM »

From the Maker's site, on Maker's 46: 

We age Maker's 46® a bit longer inside barrels containing seared French oak staves. The staves create bolder, more complex flavors — while eliminating the bitterness that usually comes with whiskies that are aged longer.

So it's been done.  And it does taste different than regular Maker's.  Sorry, I don't like artificial tampering with my whiskeys!!!!  To each their own, though.
No peanut butter whiskey! (ok, I'm done)

Whiskey aged in peanut butter jars?
Or just a dollop of peanut butter in the mash for my next batch of moonshine...hmm...
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #237 on: October 30, 2014, 01:37:32 PM »

Pretty fucking sweet...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/263766519/whiskey-elements-customize-your-whiskey-in-24-hour
If it lives up to the hype.  I know I'm a contrarian, a curmudgeon, and a skeptic, but humans have been making whiskey for nearly a thousand years (or more than a thousand years, depending on who you believe).  So...no one thought of just sticking some charred oak sticks into the barrel before?

The real magic in whiskey starts with the grains and the malting process. So I'm kinda skeptical.  But hey, I'll try anything once.
Agreed, it's almost 'too simple to be true' but it sounds like it has some solid thoughts behind it.  Even if it remotely works and doesn't screw up the whiskey flavors it still might be cool.  It would be great for the 'this could use a little more maple/smoke/caramel/vanilla/etc' person who just wants to fine tune a favorite or give it a different twist.
It seems to be roughly the same logic behind putting whiskey barrels on cargo ships to age.  The movement of the ship at sea causes the whiskey to have greater surface contact with the charred sides of the barrel.  Yadda, yadda, yadda.  They say it does something good.  I wouldn't know, personally.  So, why not stick some charred oak into a bottle?  Seems logical.  24 hours seems a little quick for it accomplish its work.  But hey, he said he tested it in a lab, so it must be true...
Hahaha...it will be interesting to see.  Lots of whiskey drinkers backing the idea that's for sure.

They'll make as much as the guy who created whiskey stones, which also don't work.  The gimmick/gift market is HUGE.  It's never for the whiskey drinker, it's for the person buying FOR the whiskey drinker.  Same with those mini barrels to make "home made" whiskey, which usually are just vodka and whiskey flavoring.
God whiskey stones are a crock of shit...anyone want mine?

Read a 'study' in either Whiskey Advocate or Cigar Afficionado... found that the best overall way to chill your whiskey if that's your 'thing' is to chill the glass ahead of time.  Ice makes it too cold and you'll lose flavors, stones don't work at all. 
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #238 on: October 30, 2014, 01:39:27 PM »

Pretty fucking sweet...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/263766519/whiskey-elements-customize-your-whiskey-in-24-hour
If it lives up to the hype.  I know I'm a contrarian, a curmudgeon, and a skeptic, but humans have been making whiskey for nearly a thousand years (or more than a thousand years, depending on who you believe).  So...no one thought of just sticking some charred oak sticks into the barrel before?

The real magic in whiskey starts with the grains and the malting process. So I'm kinda skeptical.  But hey, I'll try anything once.
Agreed, it's almost 'too simple to be true' but it sounds like it has some solid thoughts behind it.  Even if it remotely works and doesn't screw up the whiskey flavors it still might be cool.  It would be great for the 'this could use a little more maple/smoke/caramel/vanilla/etc' person who just wants to fine tune a favorite or give it a different twist.
It seems to be roughly the same logic behind putting whiskey barrels on cargo ships to age.  The movement of the ship at sea causes the whiskey to have greater surface contact with the charred sides of the barrel.  Yadda, yadda, yadda.  They say it does something good.  I wouldn't know, personally.  So, why not stick some charred oak into a bottle?  Seems logical.  24 hours seems a little quick for it accomplish its work.  But hey, he said he tested it in a lab, so it must be true...
Hahaha...it will be interesting to see.  Lots of whiskey drinkers backing the idea that's for sure.

They'll make as much as the guy who created whiskey stones, which also don't work.  The gimmick/gift market is HUGE.  It's never for the whiskey drinker, it's for the person buying FOR the whiskey drinker.  Same with those mini barrels to make "home made" whiskey, which usually are just vodka and whiskey flavoring.
God whiskey stones are a crock of shit...anyone want mine?
It amazes me that people will go out of their way to buy me these kinds of gimmicks because I'm known to like whiskey.  Wouldn't it be much simpler to just buy me a bottle of whiskey? 

People are stupid.
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Re: 10/30/2014
« Reply #239 on: October 30, 2014, 01:39:33 PM »

Pretty fucking sweet...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/263766519/whiskey-elements-customize-your-whiskey-in-24-hour
If it lives up to the hype.  I know I'm a contrarian, a curmudgeon, and a skeptic, but humans have been making whiskey for nearly a thousand years (or more than a thousand years, depending on who you believe).  So...no one thought of just sticking some charred oak sticks into the barrel before?

The real magic in whiskey starts with the grains and the malting process. So I'm kinda skeptical.  But hey, I'll try anything once.
Agreed, it's almost 'too simple to be true' but it sounds like it has some solid thoughts behind it.  Even if it remotely works and doesn't screw up the whiskey flavors it still might be cool.  It would be great for the 'this could use a little more maple/smoke/caramel/vanilla/etc' person who just wants to fine tune a favorite or give it a different twist.
It seems to be roughly the same logic behind putting whiskey barrels on cargo ships to age.  The movement of the ship at sea causes the whiskey to have greater surface contact with the charred sides of the barrel.  Yadda, yadda, yadda.  They say it does something good.  I wouldn't know, personally.  So, why not stick some charred oak into a bottle?  Seems logical.  24 hours seems a little quick for it accomplish its work.  But hey, he said he tested it in a lab, so it must be true...
Hahaha...it will be interesting to see.  Lots of whiskey drinkers backing the idea that's for sure.

They'll make as much as the guy who created whiskey stones, which also don't work.  The gimmick/gift market is HUGE.  It's never for the whiskey drinker, it's for the person buying FOR the whiskey drinker.  Same with those mini barrels to make "home made" whiskey, which usually are just vodka and whiskey flavoring.
God whiskey stones are a crock of shit...anyone want mine?

Read a 'study' in either Whiskey Advocate or Cigar Afficionado... found that the best overall way to chill your whiskey if that's your 'thing' is to chill the glass ahead of time.  Ice makes it too cold and you'll lose flavors, stones don't work at all.
I use those big ice blocks, those seem to do well...when I actually remember to have them made...when I don't man up and not-chill it :)
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