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[Travellin Dave]

In 1863, the Civil War Battle of Chancellorsville in Virginia ended with a Confederate victory over Union forces.

You're in the south now. If you don't start calling it the Battle of Northern Aggression, you're gonna get some angry looks.

You mean War of Northern Aggression. Also acceptable: War Between the States and War of Secession.  Yankees, sheesh!

down here the war hasn't ended yet. depending on who you ask the south won, but with all the northerners moving here it looks like a loss to me.

I was in Richmond years ago with a client who is from Switzerland.  He could not understand all the statues to confederate heroes down Monument Avenue.  "But they lost, right?  They put up monuments to the losers? "  It was late, and we'd been drinking, so it was funny as hell at the time.

But when you factor in that most of them were erected in the 1940s to 60s, other explanations make sense.

Had my time span a bit off, should have said 20's to 40's.

[Threebean]

In 1863, the Civil War Battle of Chancellorsville in Virginia ended with a Confederate victory over Union forces.

You're in the south now. If you don't start calling it the Battle of Northern Aggression, you're gonna get some angry looks.

You mean War of Northern Aggression. Also acceptable: War Between the States and War of Secession.  Yankees, sheesh!

down here the war hasn't ended yet. depending on who you ask the south won, but with all the northerners moving here it looks like a loss to me.

I was in Richmond years ago with a client who is from Switzerland.  He could not understand all the statues to confederate heroes down Monument Avenue.  "But they lost, right?  They put up monuments to the losers? "  It was late, and we'd been drinking, so it was funny as hell at the time.

But when you factor in that most of them were erected in the 1940s to 60s, other explanations make sense.

Not true.
Robert E. Lee Monument – equestrian sculpture by Antonin Merci้; unveiled May 29, 1890
J.E.B. Stuart – equestrian sculpture by Frederick Moynihan; unveiled May 30, 1907
Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States of America – sculpted by Edward Valentine; unveiled June 3, 1907
Stonewall Jackson – equestrian sculpture by Frederick William Sievers; unveiled October 11, 1919
Matthew Fontaine Maury, oceanographer – sculpted by Frederick William Sievers; unveiled November 11, 1929

OK, four out of how many?  (I would not include Maury even though he was a confederate navy officer)  Statue is not a military statue.  I did say most...

Except for Ashe, that's it. Six total.  Admit it, you're a fake news purveyor.   

[Threebean]

In 1863, the Civil War Battle of Chancellorsville in Virginia ended with a Confederate victory over Union forces.

You're in the south now. If you don't start calling it the Battle of Northern Aggression, you're gonna get some angry looks.

You mean War of Northern Aggression. Also acceptable: War Between the States and War of Secession.  Yankees, sheesh!

down here the war hasn't ended yet. depending on who you ask the south won, but with all the northerners moving here it looks like a loss to me.

I was in Richmond years ago with a client who is from Switzerland.  He could not understand all the statues to confederate heroes down Monument Avenue.  "But they lost, right?  They put up monuments to the losers? "  It was late, and we'd been drinking, so it was funny as hell at the time.

But when you factor in that most of them were erected in the 1940s to 60s, other explanations make sense.

Had my time span a bit off, should have said 20's to 40's.

Still off, the last one was 1929.  Sheesh. 

[Threebean]

In 1863, the Civil War Battle of Chancellorsville in Virginia ended with a Confederate victory over Union forces.

You're in the south now. If you don't start calling it the Battle of Northern Aggression, you're gonna get some angry looks.

You mean War of Northern Aggression. Also acceptable: War Between the States and War of Secession.  Yankees, sheesh!

down here the war hasn't ended yet. depending on who you ask the south won, but with all the northerners moving here it looks like a loss to me.

I was in Richmond years ago with a client who is from Switzerland.  He could not understand all the statues to confederate heroes down Monument Avenue.  "But they lost, right?  They put up monuments to the losers? "  It was late, and we'd been drinking, so it was funny as hell at the time.

But when you factor in that most of them were erected in the 1940s to 60s, other explanations make sense.

Not true.
Robert E. Lee Monument – equestrian sculpture by Antonin Merci้; unveiled May 29, 1890
J.E.B. Stuart – equestrian sculpture by Frederick Moynihan; unveiled May 30, 1907
Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States of America – sculpted by Edward Valentine; unveiled June 3, 1907
Stonewall Jackson – equestrian sculpture by Frederick William Sievers; unveiled October 11, 1919
Matthew Fontaine Maury, oceanographer – sculpted by Frederick William Sievers; unveiled November 11, 1929

That's most of them? Guess there's a lot less than everyone says.

I left one off the list as it's unrelated.  Arthur Ashe was born in Richmond.
Arthur Ashe, tennis player – sculpted by Paul DiPasquale; unveiled July 10, 1996

Nice statue, but that was protested at the time...
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-08-16-mn-35789-story.html

Here is more context than you'll get from your usual sources.
The decision to place the statue of Arthur Ashe by Paul DiPasquale on Monument Avenue was controversial.[24] Detractors pointed to a lack of correlation between the Richmond native tennis star and Confederate leaders. Some residents thought the monument should be placed at the Arthur Ashe Athletic Center instead. The monument became a focal point of racial tensions in the city around the times of its commission and its unveiling. Many of the city's majority African American residents cited Ashe's distinguished place in the modern history of the city as a reason for inclusion, while some residents and other parties rejected it as inappropriate for Monument Avenue, which until 1996 contained only statues of men with a relationship to the Confederate States of America.

[Travellin Dave]

In 1863, the Civil War Battle of Chancellorsville in Virginia ended with a Confederate victory over Union forces.

You're in the south now. If you don't start calling it the Battle of Northern Aggression, you're gonna get some angry looks.

You mean War of Northern Aggression. Also acceptable: War Between the States and War of Secession.  Yankees, sheesh!

down here the war hasn't ended yet. depending on who you ask the south won, but with all the northerners moving here it looks like a loss to me.

I was in Richmond years ago with a client who is from Switzerland.  He could not understand all the statues to confederate heroes down Monument Avenue.  "But they lost, right?  They put up monuments to the losers? "  It was late, and we'd been drinking, so it was funny as hell at the time.

But when you factor in that most of them were erected in the 1940s to 60s, other explanations make sense.

Had my time span a bit off, should have said 20's to 40's.

Still off, the last one was 1929.  Sheesh.

I was giving you those four  (not Maury however).

[Travellin Dave]

Then again, maybe I shouldn't be talking as the main building on Clemson campus, used as a symbol of the University is Tillman Hall.  Named in 1946 after Ben "Pitchfork" Tillman.  (Interesting background for sure)

[LuvTooGolf]

In 1863, the Civil War Battle of Chancellorsville in Virginia ended with a Confederate victory over Union forces.

You're in the south now. If you don't start calling it the Battle of Northern Aggression, you're gonna get some angry looks.

You mean War of Northern Aggression. Also acceptable: War Between the States and War of Secession.  Yankees, sheesh!

down here the war hasn't ended yet. depending on who you ask the south won, but with all the northerners moving here it looks like a loss to me.

I was in Richmond years ago with a client who is from Switzerland.  He could not understand all the statues to confederate heroes down Monument Avenue.  "But they lost, right?  They put up monuments to the losers? "  It was late, and we'd been drinking, so it was funny as hell at the time.

But when you factor in that most of them were erected in the 1940s to 60s, other explanations make sense.

Had my time span a bit off, should have said 20's to 40's.

Still off, the last one was 1929.  Sheesh.

I'm fairly certain he was referring to all the Confederate loser statues erected in the south, not just the ones on that particular street.

[LuvTooGolf]

Then again, maybe I shouldn't be talking as the main building on Clemson campus, used as a symbol of the University is Tillman Hall.  Named in 1946 after Ben "Pitchfork" Tillman.  (Interesting background for sure)

Without knowing anything about him, I'm guessing he was a humanitarian.

[Threebean]

Time for me to get some lunch and two wheeled therapy.  Adios, mofos.

[LuvTooGolf]

Time for me to get some lunch and two wheeled therapy.  Adios, mofos.

[LuvTooGolf]

Hazzuh, yankees!

[A Friend of Charlie]

Morning. Still feels like winter. Boilers need checking.

Talking here about the chance for snow on Saturday. Snow!

Same here. Mother's day snow. Good morning LTG, Tony, and Dean.

Oh yeah mother's day. I better get on that. And then I have a couple of birthdays immediately following.

being Mr Mom I thought it's was your day.

Only when it's convenient.

Like when I have to take care of a puking kid, which was the way I spent a great deal of this morning.

Definitely not my favorite part of parenting.

[A Friend of Charlie]

I'm all caught up now. Back to work.

[Threebean]

Then again, maybe I shouldn't be talking as the main building on Clemson campus, used as a symbol of the University is Tillman Hall.  Named in 1946 after Ben "Pitchfork" Tillman.  (Interesting background for sure)

Without knowing anything about him, I'm guessing he was a humanitarian.

Indeed.
One of his legacies was South Carolina's 1895 constitution, which disenfranchised most of the black majority and many poor whites, and ensured white Democratic Party rule for more than six decades into the twentieth century.

[Travellin Dave]

Then again, maybe I shouldn't be talking as the main building on Clemson campus, used as a symbol of the University is Tillman Hall.  Named in 1946 after Ben "Pitchfork" Tillman.  (Interesting background for sure)

Without knowing anything about him, I'm guessing he was a humanitarian.

Well in fact he was credited with some significant achievements...
a governor of South Carolina
a US senator representing South Carolina
instrumental in founding Clemson (College) University as a land grant college.
Established the first federal campaign finance law (banning corporate contributions)
Established a dispensary system during prohibition to get around totally banning alcohol.
Established the first womens college in SC (now Winthrop University)