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[Travellin Dave]

The cigars you're cutting with the the Xikar aren't made in America...-----jwacky-----Honduras and Nicaragua are no longer in Central America?  When did they move them?  And to where?

Notice he didn't say he wouldn't change it...

Sheesh, you know what I meant!!  United States of America.  North of Mexico, south of Canada.  Pacific Ocean on the left, Atlantic Ocean on the right.

Yeah, but let's face it Joe...when there's an opportunity to zing you, we take it.  Those opportunities aren't that plentiful.

Plenty of opportunities... everyone's fair game.  Can't handle it?  Don't log in.  Also I can just modify posts if I'm wrong about something, LOL.

We expect better of you.  When you're wrong, just leave the post there for everyone to see.  It's the manly thing to do.

I was kidding.  I can take the heat.

[Travellin Dave]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

You have to be at least four star to qualify

[razgueado]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

Well, there you get into all the extra shit like pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, and you have to decide if you're pre-millennial, post-millennial, or amillenial.  But yeah, we're still waiting to see how it plays out.

WTF?

Nevermind, you don't want to go there.  In another life I was a theology student.

[razgueado]

I'm out for the night gents, off to see the warden before she works her night shift. 

Smoke up!

Night, Two-Stars.

[LSUFAN]

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[DesertRat]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

I still had a couple a things to do........

A dusty bucket list?  Afternoon Dave

20 year old nymphomaniac is the LAST thing on the list........howdy Mr Breath.

[Travellin Dave]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Better light up a cigar and por yourself an adult beverage 'cause  we're all gonn die!  Howdy raz you ol' socio-economic BOTL you

Emphasis on the old.  This picture was taken of the warden and I at a graduation banquet.  I'm officially old.

Kinda depends on who's graduating.... if it was your grandkids....

[LSUFAN]

Good afternoon guys, it has taken me awhile to finally get caught up with this place.

[DesertRat]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

You have to be at least four star to qualify

Ka-fucking-boom!

[Wenglish]

Padilla 1932 Lancero. 

[Travellin Dave]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Better light up a cigar and por yourself an adult beverage 'cause  we're all gonn die!  Howdy raz you ol' socio-economic BOTL you

Emphasis on the old.  This picture was taken of the warden and I at a graduation banquet.  I'm officially old.

Kinda depends on who's graduating.... if it was your grandkids....

Thinking of graduations, we should start planning a big graduation herf in San Diego for JWacky in a couple years!

[DesertRat]

I'm out for the night gents, off to see the warden before she works her night shift. 

Smoke up!

Take care, Shaun.

[DesertRat]

Good afternoon guys, it has taken me awhile to finally get caught up with this place.

\\\\Afternoon, Chip. Big question: was it worth it? 

[Travellin Dave]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

I still had a couple a things to do........

A dusty bucket list?  Afternoon Dave

20 year old nymphomaniac is the LAST thing on the list........howdy Mr Breath.

For a number of reasons.

[A Friend of Charlie]

So I just grabbed a handful of smokes and threw them in my bag before I left this morning.  If I had noticed one of them was a Casino Gold by Plasencia, I probably would have chucked it.  Turns out it is smokable and ideal for the commute home.  A bit loose on the draw but held the ash for over 2 inches.  I wouldn't buy it but definitely would smoke it again.  A solid medium stick.