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[jswaykos]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

---- Suckers!!  And be sure to ship it to us QUICK, too.  None of this Surepost nonsense.

[razgueado]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

[CigarGuy87]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

[CigarGuy87]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

---- Suckers!!  And be sure to ship it to us QUICK, too.  None of this Surepost nonsense.

Surepost, ugh.  If there is one thing I learned, I don't get the 1day delay with the transition when I ship to a business, but I do when I ship to residential.

[cigarbreath]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Better light up a cigar and por yourself an adult beverage 'cause  we're all gonn die!  Howdy raz you ol' socio-economic BOTL you

[DesertRat]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

I still had a couple a things to do........

[TruDog]

Like my Xikar cutters and punches.  Currently using a Mayan collection xi3 and the new 11mm punch.  Mikey likely and good afternoon everyone.

Hi MikeY...and all.

Howdy Craig...and Mike.

Afternoon Joe, CG87 and Dusty...

Woof!

and RaZ...

[CigarGuy87]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

I still had a couple a things to do........

Haha, I hear ya there...I wasn't ready, just trying to act tough in the face of danger.   

Good thing there isn't a 14/14/14, otherwise we might have another one on our hands!

[razgueado]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

Well, there you get into all the extra shit like pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, and you have to decide if you're pre-millennial, post-millennial, or amillenial.  But yeah, we're still waiting to see how it plays out.

[KC]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

-----CB-----The word "giviving" is a Yiddish term, similar to "kvetching".  Oy will verify that. 

[cigarbreath]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

I still had a couple a things to do........

A dusty bucket list?  Afternoon Dave

[cigarbreath]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

-----CB-----The word "giviving" is a Yiddish term, similar to "kvetching".  Oy will verify that.

Oy vey!

[razgueado]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Better light up a cigar and por yourself an adult beverage 'cause  we're all gonn die!  Howdy raz you ol' socio-economic BOTL you

Emphasis on the old.  This picture was taken of the warden and I at a graduation banquet.  I'm officially old.

[cigarbreath]

Nothing like bombing the shit out of the Germans and the Japs then giviving them money to build new stuff while we're stuck with our old crap.

I'm as USA-first as anyone, but let's face it - The Marshall Plan paid off big-time for the US.

As for the trade deficit, the rules of economics apply to the Chinese as much as to the US.  The countries that produce with the lowest labor costs get a flood of money.  That flood of money drives up wages and fuels consumption.  Pretty soon, all that cheap labor isn't so cheap anymore, and it's "next country up".  China keeps trying to mess with the rules by holding down currency value and so on, but that's bubble-gum-and-spit stop-gapping. Eventually, it'll cost more to produce it in China and Africa will get all the outsourced manufacturing.  That and vast resources are why China is pouring huge amounts of effort and money into Africa.  Eventually, it either swings back to the US, or it broadly distributes and lifts all boats.  Or somebody hits the button and we vaporize ourselves.  We're still waiting to see how it plays out.

Fuggin Rapture, I was all ready and everything!

Well, there you get into all the extra shit like pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, and you have to decide if you're pre-millennial, post-millennial, or amillenial.  But yeah, we're still waiting to see how it plays out.

WTF?

[CigarGuy87]

I'm out for the night gents, off to see the warden before she works her night shift. 

Smoke up!