Post by: CigarBanter on March 16, 2020, 12:56:12 AM
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 05:28:19 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 05:38:35 AM
Decent deals today. Too bad I spent my money....Nothing worse than blowing your wad early. Morning, BoilerMan.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 07:11:14 AM
Decent deals today. Too bad I spent my money....Nothing worse than blowing your wad early. Morning, BoilerMan.
I'm not sure I agree. I would argue that not getting to blow your wad at all is far worse.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 07:11:33 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 07:14:03 AM
I stand corrected. Morning, Tony.Decent deals today. Too bad I spent my money....Nothing worse than blowing your wad early. Morning, BoilerMan.
I'm not sure I agree. I would argue that not getting to blow your wad at all is far worse.
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 07:17:12 AM
Good morning, Rick and Dave.Good morning Mr Tony and Mr LTG. Are you both working from home? All the admin/bosses are in today so see what goes. Facilities will need to be here
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 07:20:06 AM
I'll second that!Decent deals today. Too bad I spent my money....Nothing worse than blowing your wad early. Morning, BoilerMan.
I'm not sure I agree. I would argue that not getting to blow your wad at all is far worse.
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 07:20:42 AM
And you're not assembling in groups of 50 or more...Good morning, Rick and Dave.Good morning Mr Tony and Mr LTG. Are you both working from home? All the admin/bosses are in today so see what goes. Facilities will need to be here
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 07:23:58 AM
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 07:27:16 AM
I can see them jockeying for position now. He's starting to look like Dean.
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 07:32:23 AM
Good morning Clemson Dave. I could freeze them out.And you're not assembling in groups of 50 or more...Good morning, Rick and Dave.Good morning Mr Tony and Mr LTG. Are you both working from home? All the admin/bosses are in today so see what goes. Facilities will need to be here
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 07:44:13 AM
Today's Highlights in History:
On March 16, 1926, rocket science pioneer Robert H. Goddard successfully tested the first liquid-fueled rocket at his Aunt Effie's farm in Auburn, Massachusetts.
On this date:
In 1521, Portuguese explorer Ferdinand Magellan and his crew reached the Philippines, where Magellan was killed during a battle with natives the following month.
In 1802, President Thomas Jefferson signed a measure authorizing the establishment of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, New York.
In 1850, Nathaniel Hawthorne's novel "The Scarlet Letter" was first published.
In 1935, Adolf Hitler decided to break the military terms set by the Treaty of Versailles (vehr-SY') by ordering the rearming of Germany.
In 1945, during World War II, American forces declared they had secured Iwo Jima, although pockets of Japanese resistance remained.
In 1966, NASA launched Gemini 8 on a mission to rendezvous and dock with Agena, a target vehicle in orbit; although the docking was successful, the joined vehicles began spinning, forcing Gemini to disconnect and abort the flight.
In 1968, the My Lai (mee ly) massacre took place during the Vietnam War as U.S. Army soldiers hunting for Viet Cong fighters and sympathizers killed unarmed villagers in two hamlets of Son My (suhn mee) village; estimates of the death toll vary from 347 to 504. Senator Robert F. Kennedy of New York announced his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination.
In 1987, Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis announced his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination.
In 1991, a plane carrying seven members of country singer Reba McEntire's band and her tour manager crashed into Otay Mountain in southern California, killing all on board. U.S. skaters Kristi Yamaguchi, Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan swept the World Figure Skating Championships in Munich, Germany.
In 1994, figure skater Tonya Harding pleaded guilty in Portland, Oregon, to conspiracy to hinder prosecution for covering up an attack on rival Nancy Kerrigan, avoiding jail but drawing a $100,000 fine.
In 2003, American activist Rachel Corrie, 23, was crushed to death by an Israeli military bulldozer while trying to block demolition of a Palestinian home in the Gaza Strip.
In 2004, China declared victory in its fight against bird flu, saying it had "stamped out" all its known cases.
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 07:44:59 AM
Five years ago: Los Angeles prosecutors filed a first-degree murder charge against real estate heir Robert Durst in the killing of his friend, Susan Berman, who had acted as Durst's spokeswoman after his wife, Kathleen, disappeared in 1982. (Durst is now on trial in Los Angeles.)
One year ago: Relatives waited for authorities to release the remains of the 51 Muslim worshippers killed in massacres at two mosques in the New Zealand city of Christchurch. Dick Dale, whose power-chord instrumentals on songs including “Miserlou” and “Let’s Go Trippin’” earned him the title King of the Surf Guitar, died at the age of 83.
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 07:48:18 AM
Country singer Ray Walker (The Jordanaires) is 86.
Game show host Chuck Woolery is 79.
Singer-songwriter Jerry Jeff Walker is 78.
Country singer Robin Williams is 73.
Actor Erik Estrada is 71.
Actor Victor Garber is 71.
Country singer Ray Benson (Asleep at the Wheel) is 69.
Bluegrass musician Tim O'Brien (Hot Rize; Earls of Leicester) is 66.
Rock singer-musician Nancy Wilson (Heart) is 66.
World Golf Hall of Famer Hollis Stacy is 66.
Actor Clifton Powell is 64.
Rapper-actor Flavor Flav is 61.
Rock musician Jimmy DeGrasso is 57.
Actor Jerome Flynn is 57.
Folk singer Patty Griffin is 56. Movie director Gore Verbinski is 56.
Country singer Tracy Bonham is 53.
Actress Lauren Graham is 53.
Actor Judah Friedlander (FREED'-lan-duhr) is 51.
Actor Alan Tudyk (TOO'-dihk) is 49.
Actor Tim Kang is 47.
Rhythm-and-blues singer Blu Cantrell is 44.
Actress Brooke Burns is 42.
Actress Kimrie Lewis is 38.
Actor Brett Davern is 37.
Actress Alexandra Daddario is 34.
Rhythm and blues singer Jhene Aiko is 32.
Rock musician Wolfgang Van Halen is 29.
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 07:48:50 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 07:48:50 AM
So Uncle Joe says he's going to go with a woman VP.I think that was a foregone conclusion. In fact, I also think Drumpf wants a woman as his next VP, to try to secure some of that vote. It would make sense of his appt of Pence to head the coronavirus task force, setting him up to fail so he can give him the axe...
I can see them jockeying for position now. He's starting to look like Dean.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 07:49:17 AM
Thought for Today: "No man, for any considerable period, can wear one face to himself, and another to the multitude, without finally getting bewildered as to which may be the true." — From "The Scarlet Letter" by Nathaniel Hawthorne, American author (1804-1864).#fakenews
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 07:49:58 AM
Yes sir, working from home until further notice.Good morning, Rick and Dave.Good morning Mr Tony and Mr LTG. Are you both working from home? All the admin/bosses are in today so see what goes. Facilities will need to be here
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 07:56:18 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 08:00:08 AM
Yes sir. We're non-essential types.Good morning, Rick and Dave.Good morning Mr Tony and Mr LTG. Are you both working from home? All the admin/bosses are in today so see what goes. Facilities will need to be here
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 08:00:39 AM
So Uncle Joe says he's going to go with a woman VP.ouch!
I can see them jockeying for position now. He's starting to look like Dean.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 08:00:51 AM
So Uncle Joe says he's going to go with a woman VP.Hahaha. Pretty sure Bernie is doing the same.
I can see them jockeying for position now. He's starting to look like Dean.
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 08:01:23 AM
I don't think so, Pence helps bring in all the evangelical sheep vote. That group also contains all the women that would vote for him.So Uncle Joe says he's going to go with a woman VP.I think that was a foregone conclusion. In fact, I also think Drumpf wants a woman as his next VP, to try to secure some of that vote. It would make sense of his appt of Pence to head the coronavirus task force, setting him up to fail so he can give him the axe...
I can see them jockeying for position now. He's starting to look like Dean.
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 08:02:36 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 08:05:14 AM
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 08:05:38 AM
Wonder if Hillary will throw her hat in the ring...So Uncle Joe says he's going to go with a woman VP.Hahaha. Pretty sure Bernie is doing the same.
I can see them jockeying for position now. He's starting to look like Dean.
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 08:06:49 AM
I am in self-imposed isolation. due to all the freaked out crazy people here, and reviewing a 1,068 file of background information for the April General Service Conference, taking notes, and sending my thoughts to our Delegate.Unless it's a teleconference, don't see that meeting happening.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 08:08:36 AM
Lol, let's hope not!Wonder if Hillary will throw her hat in the ring...So Uncle Joe says he's going to go with a woman VP.Hahaha. Pretty sure Bernie is doing the same.
I can see them jockeying for position now. He's starting to look like Dean.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 08:09:18 AM
They've anointed him a man selected by god to be president. I don't think he needs Pence for that vote anymore.I don't think so, Pence helps bring in all the evangelical sheep vote. That group also contains all the women that would vote for him.So Uncle Joe says he's going to go with a woman VP.I think that was a foregone conclusion. In fact, I also think Drumpf wants a woman as his next VP, to try to secure some of that vote. It would make sense of his appt of Pence to head the coronavirus task force, setting him up to fail so he can give him the axe...
I can see them jockeying for position now. He's starting to look like Dean.
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 08:09:24 AM
Italians over 80 'will be left to die' as country overwhelmed by coronavirus
Hardest-hit region drafts new proposals saying who will live and who will die
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 08:12:07 AM
they are talking about cancelling our April Assembly and doing the week of General Service Conference in NY by video feed, teleconference, or whatever, for all 50 states, PR, and VII am in self-imposed isolation. due to all the freaked out crazy people here, and reviewing a 1,068 file of background information for the April General Service Conference, taking notes, and sending my thoughts to our Delegate.Unless it's a teleconference, don't see that meeting happening.
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 08:12:39 AM
I am in self-imposed isolation. due to all the freaked out crazy people here, and reviewing a 1,068 file of background information for the April General Service Conference, taking notes, and sending my thoughts to our Delegate.And that's different from the normal freaked out crazy people in your neck of the woods how?
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 08:14:39 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 08:14:59 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 08:15:55 AM
remember, I hate drama and chaos. 🤣I am in self-imposed isolation. due to all the freaked out crazy people here, and reviewing a 1,068 file of background information for the April General Service Conference, taking notes, and sending my thoughts to our Delegate.And that's different from the normal freaked out crazy people in your neck of the woods how?
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 08:26:42 AM
I also remember you love redheads...remember, I hate drama and chaos. 🤣I am in self-imposed isolation. due to all the freaked out crazy people here, and reviewing a 1,068 file of background information for the April General Service Conference, taking notes, and sending my thoughts to our Delegate.And that's different from the normal freaked out crazy people in your neck of the woods how?
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 08:30:01 AM
WTFBig reason Italy is so hard hit by this, they have the oldest population in Western Europe and they have generations of families living together, so "healthy" carriers are bringing it to the elderly.
Italians over 80 'will be left to die' as country overwhelmed by coronavirus
Hardest-hit region drafts new proposals saying who will live and who will die
Kind of like what will happen when you close all the colleges and schools and send the young people home...
Safest place (for all) for young people to be now is isolated back on the college campuses.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 08:32:33 AM
All Bars And Restaurants In Ohio, Illinois To Close Due To Coronavirus PandemicStill leaving them open for takeout, but all dining areas closed. Hoping to find out today if the wife's place still needs her services right now. Otherwise, she'll be hitting the unemployment line.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 08:34:10 AM
No, the safest place for everyone to be is in their homes with their immediate families. The only way to stop this thing is to stop it from spreading. And the only way to do that is to have everyone isolated so if it does spread to your family, it stays there and doesn't move on.WTFBig reason Italy is so hard hit by this, they have the oldest population in Western Europe and they have generations of families living together, so "healthy" carriers are bringing it to the elderly.
Italians over 80 'will be left to die' as country overwhelmed by coronavirus
Hardest-hit region drafts new proposals saying who will live and who will die
Kind of like what will happen when you close all the colleges and schools and send the young people home...
Safest place (for all) for young people to be now is isolated back on the college campuses.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 08:34:33 AM
Well that was a pain in the ass tracking that down today. My regular source seems frozen at March 14 (thanks Tony).I'm honored.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 08:36:03 AM
WTFIt's messed up.
Italians over 80 'will be left to die' as country overwhelmed by coronavirus
Hardest-hit region drafts new proposals saying who will live and who will die
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 08:37:51 AM
New York City is doing the same.All Bars And Restaurants In Ohio, Illinois To Close Due To Coronavirus PandemicStill leaving them open for takeout, but all dining areas closed. Hoping to find out today if the wife's place still needs her services right now. Otherwise, she'll be hitting the unemployment line.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 08:43:00 AM
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-20-intl-hnk/h_00633a0135cea337eda02ce7e6c854e3?fbclid=IwAR1Ggv2Dsbr4BXmpUjj_z_5fG-2J2Az4UqWCWAnqUdPhfPFtGUKzbmOFuGg
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 08:50:32 AM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 08:52:40 AM
We need a moderator for cigar only content.I can assign that to you... But you'll regret it.
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 08:52:56 AM
The end is already in sight.but that's CNN. I wouldn't believe anything they said if my life depended on it.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-20-intl-hnk/h_00633a0135cea337eda02ce7e6c854e3?fbclid=IwAR1Ggv2Dsbr4BXmpUjj_z_5fG-2J2Az4UqWCWAnqUdPhfPFtGUKzbmOFuGg
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 08:54:49 AM
we may have to wait for a Robusto-virus or a Maduro-virus.We need a moderator for cigar only content.I can assign that to you... But you'll regret it.
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 08:55:10 AM
I'm a realist it's just this stuff is getting me on edge.We need a moderator for cigar only content.I can assign that to you... But you'll regret it.
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 08:56:22 AM
We need a moderator for cigar only content.if we only talked cigars we'd be lucky to get a full page in.
we could turn it into a weekly or monthly site. 😅
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 09:03:18 AM
Then by all means, listen to Fox News, which is telling you this is a liberal hoax, and you should continue to go out, shake hands and be around lots of people. Then your life will REALLY depend on it.The end is already in sight.but that's CNN. I wouldn't believe anything they said if my life depended on it.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-20-intl-hnk/h_00633a0135cea337eda02ce7e6c854e3?fbclid=IwAR1Ggv2Dsbr4BXmpUjj_z_5fG-2J2Az4UqWCWAnqUdPhfPFtGUKzbmOFuGg
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 09:30:40 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 09:43:17 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 09:44:59 AM
🤣 I watch Robin Meade on HLN, my local news channel, and read various feeds. my life does not depend on what anyone one else thinks.Then by all means, listen to Fox News, which is telling you this is a liberal hoax, and you should continue to go out, shake hands and be around lots of people. Then your life will REALLY depend on it.The end is already in sight.but that's CNN. I wouldn't believe anything they said if my life depended on it.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-20-intl-hnk/h_00633a0135cea337eda02ce7e6c854e3?fbclid=IwAR1Ggv2Dsbr4BXmpUjj_z_5fG-2J2Az4UqWCWAnqUdPhfPFtGUKzbmOFuGg
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 09:46:25 AM
Didn't take long for trading to get halted.once the market tanks and the working class no longer has funds to invest, guess who will be buying up all the stocks?
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 09:48:32 AM
Liberals? Commies? I don't know, it's hard to keep track of all the conspiracy theories out there these days.Didn't take long for trading to get halted.once the market tanks and the working class no longer has funds to invest, guess who will be buying up all the stocks?
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 09:49:52 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 09:51:59 AM
I wonder how many people in Italy said that over the last two weeks.🤣 I watch Robin Meade on HLN, my local news channel, and read various feeds. my life does not depend on what anyone one else thinks.Then by all means, listen to Fox News, which is telling you this is a liberal hoax, and you should continue to go out, shake hands and be around lots of people. Then your life will REALLY depend on it.The end is already in sight.but that's CNN. I wouldn't believe anything they said if my life depended on it.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-20-intl-hnk/h_00633a0135cea337eda02ce7e6c854e3?fbclid=IwAR1Ggv2Dsbr4BXmpUjj_z_5fG-2J2Az4UqWCWAnqUdPhfPFtGUKzbmOFuGg
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 09:55:53 AM
Guardo Robin Meade su HLN, il mio canale di notizie locale, e leggo vari feed. la mia vita non dipende da ciò che pensa qualcun altro.I wonder how many people in Italy said that over the last two weeks.🤣 I watch Robin Meade on HLN, my local news channel, and read various feeds. my life does not depend on what anyone one else thinks.Then by all means, listen to Fox News, which is telling you this is a liberal hoax, and you should continue to go out, shake hands and be around lots of people. Then your life will REALLY depend on it.The end is already in sight.but that's CNN. I wouldn't believe anything they said if my life depended on it.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-20-intl-hnk/h_00633a0135cea337eda02ce7e6c854e3?fbclid=IwAR1Ggv2Dsbr4BXmpUjj_z_5fG-2J2Az4UqWCWAnqUdPhfPFtGUKzbmOFuGg
let's see how many Italians read this.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 10:05:30 AM
All we know for sure is there are 1800 less of them to potentially read it than there were a couple weeks ago.Guardo Robin Meade su HLN, il mio canale di notizie locale, e leggo vari feed. la mia vita non dipende da ciò che pensa qualcun altro.I wonder how many people in Italy said that over the last two weeks.🤣 I watch Robin Meade on HLN, my local news channel, and read various feeds. my life does not depend on what anyone one else thinks.Then by all means, listen to Fox News, which is telling you this is a liberal hoax, and you should continue to go out, shake hands and be around lots of people. Then your life will REALLY depend on it.The end is already in sight.but that's CNN. I wouldn't believe anything they said if my life depended on it.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-20-intl-hnk/h_00633a0135cea337eda02ce7e6c854e3?fbclid=IwAR1Ggv2Dsbr4BXmpUjj_z_5fG-2J2Az4UqWCWAnqUdPhfPFtGUKzbmOFuGg
let's see how many Italians read this.
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 10:37:32 AM
if Mussolini were still alive Italy would be at war with China.All we know for sure is there are 1800 less of them to potentially read it than there were a couple weeks ago.Guardo Robin Meade su HLN, il mio canale di notizie locale, e leggo vari feed. la mia vita non dipende da ciò che pensa qualcun altro.I wonder how many people in Italy said that over the last two weeks.🤣 I watch Robin Meade on HLN, my local news channel, and read various feeds. my life does not depend on what anyone one else thinks.Then by all means, listen to Fox News, which is telling you this is a liberal hoax, and you should continue to go out, shake hands and be around lots of people. Then your life will REALLY depend on it.The end is already in sight.but that's CNN. I wouldn't believe anything they said if my life depended on it.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-20-intl-hnk/h_00633a0135cea337eda02ce7e6c854e3?fbclid=IwAR1Ggv2Dsbr4BXmpUjj_z_5fG-2J2Az4UqWCWAnqUdPhfPFtGUKzbmOFuGg
let's see how many Italians read this.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 10:40:35 AM
I don't know, hard to see anyone taking orders from someone who's 137 years old. :Dif Mussolini were still alive Italy would be at war with China.All we know for sure is there are 1800 less of them to potentially read it than there were a couple weeks ago.Guardo Robin Meade su HLN, il mio canale di notizie locale, e leggo vari feed. la mia vita non dipende da ciò che pensa qualcun altro.I wonder how many people in Italy said that over the last two weeks.🤣 I watch Robin Meade on HLN, my local news channel, and read various feeds. my life does not depend on what anyone one else thinks.Then by all means, listen to Fox News, which is telling you this is a liberal hoax, and you should continue to go out, shake hands and be around lots of people. Then your life will REALLY depend on it.The end is already in sight.but that's CNN. I wouldn't believe anything they said if my life depended on it.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-20-intl-hnk/h_00633a0135cea337eda02ce7e6c854e3?fbclid=IwAR1Ggv2Dsbr4BXmpUjj_z_5fG-2J2Az4UqWCWAnqUdPhfPFtGUKzbmOFuGg
let's see how many Italians read this.
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 10:41:06 AM
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Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 10:42:31 AM
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Famous Smoke Shop — Gilberto Oliva Reserva Corona (Box of 20, $62.95)
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Luis Martinez — Arturo Fuente Cafe Cubano K-Cups ($15.95)
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Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 10:43:54 AM
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Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 10:45:11 AM
https://www.cigarpage.com/maduro-monday-mad-house.html
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 10:57:19 AM
The Chinese! Ah, the endgame of the conspiracy reveals itself.Didn't take long for trading to get halted.once the market tanks and the working class no longer has funds to invest, guess who will be buying up all the stocks?
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 10:57:59 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 10:58:55 AM
it's a great morning now. I ❤ Mondays.I appreciate the guidepost. By Thursday morning, I will have absolutely no idea what day it is.
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 11:00:39 AM
Definitely dont like that feeling.it's a great morning now. I ❤ Mondays.I appreciate the guidepost. By Thursday morning, I will have absolutely no idea what day it is.
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 11:01:49 AM
Chinese biological weapon
Further information: Cyberwarfare in the United States and Propaganda in the United States
In January 2020, the BBC published an article about coronavirus misinformation, citing two 24 January articles from The Washington Times which claimed the virus was part of a Chinese biological weapons program, based at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).[1][13] The Washington Post later published an article debunking the conspiracy theory, citing US experts who explained why the institute was not suitable for bioweapon research, that most countries had abandoned bioweapons as fruitless, and that there was no evidence that the virus was genetically engineered.[14]
In February 2020, US Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR) as well as Francis Boyle, a law professor, suggested that the virus may have been a Chinese bioweapon,[15] while in the opinion of numerous medical experts there is no evidence for this.[16] Conservative political commentator Rush Limbaugh said on The Rush Limbaugh Show, the most popular radio show in the US, that the virus was probably "a ChiCom laboratory experiment" and that the Chinese were using the virus and the media hysteria surrounding it, to bring down Donald Trump.[17][18] In February 2020, The Financial Times reported from virus expert and global co-lead coronavirus investigator, Trevor Bedford, who said that "There is no evidence whatsoever of genetic engineering that we can find", and that, "The evidence we have is that the mutations [in the virus] are completely consistent with natural evolution".[19] Bedford further explained, "The most likely scenario, based on genetic analysis, was that the virus was transmitted by a bat to another mammal between 20–70 years ago. This intermediary animal—not yet identified—passed it on to its first human host in the city of Wuhan in late November or early December 2019".[19]
On 29 January, financial news website and blog ZeroHedge suggested, without evidence, that a scientist at the WIV created the COVID-19 strain responsible for the coronavirus outbreak. Zerohedge listed the full contact details of the scientist supposedly responsible, a practice known as doxing, by including the scientist's name, photo and phone number, suggesting to readers that they "pay [the Chinese scientist] a visit" if they wanted to know "what really caused the coronavirus pandemic".[20] Twitter later permanently suspended the blog's account for violating its platform manipulation policy.[21]
In January 2020, Buzzfeed News also reported on an internet meme/conspiracy theory of a link between the logo of the WIV and "Umbrella Corporation", the agency that made the virus that starts the zombie apocalypse in the Resident Evil franchise. The theory also saw a link between "Racoon" (the main city in Resident Evil), and an anagram of "Corona" (the name of the virus).[22] The popularity of this theory attracted the attention of Snopes, who proved it as false showing that the logo was not from the Institute, but from Shanghai Ruilan Bao Hu San Biotech Limited, located approximately 500 miles (800 km) away in Shanghai and additionally pointed out that the proper name of the city in Resident Evil is Raccoon City.[22]
The Inverse reported that "Christopher Bouzy, the founder of Bot Sentinel, did a Twitter analysis for Inverse and found [online] bots and trollbots are making an array of false claims. These bots are claiming China intentionally created the virus, that it's a biological weapon, that Democrats are overstating the threat to hurt Donald Trump and more. While we can't confirm the origin of these bots, they are decidedly pro-Trump."[23]
Misinformation aside, concerns on accidental leakage by the WIV remain.[24] In 2017, US molecular biologist Richard H. Ebright, expressed caution when the WIV was expanded to become mainland China's first biosafety level 4 (BSL–4) laboratory, noting previous escapes of the SARS virus at other Chinese laboratories.[25] While Ebright refuted several conspiracy theories regarding the WIV (e.g. bioweapons research, that the virus was engineered), he told BBC China that this did not represent the possibility of the virus being "completely ruled out" from entering the population due to a laboratory accident.[24] On 6 February, the White House asked scientists and medical researchers to rapidly investigate the origins of the virus in order to address both the current spread and "to inform future outbreak preparation and better understand animal/human and environmental transmission aspects of coronaviruses."[26]
Tobias Ellwood MP, chairperson of the Defence Select Committee of the UK House of Commons, also publicly questioned the role of the Chinese Army's Wuhan Institute for Biological Products and called for the "greater transparency over the origins of the coronavirus".[27]
South China Morning Post reported that one of the Institute's lead researchers, Shi Zhengli, was the particular focus of personal attacks in Chinese social media who alleged her work on bat-based viruses as the source of the virus, leading Shi to post: "I swear with my life, [the virus] has nothing to do with the lab", and when asked by the SCMP to comment on the attacks, Shi responded: "My time must be spent on more important matters".[28] Caixin reported Shi made further public statements against "perceived tinfoil-hat theories about the new virus's source", quoting her as saying: "The novel 2019 coronavirus is nature punishing the human race for keeping uncivilized living habits. I, Shi Zhengli, swear on my life that it has nothing to do with our laboratory".[29]
Far-right commentator Josh Bernstein claimed that the Democratic Party and the “medical deep state” were collaborating with the Chinese government to create and release the coronavirus in order to bring down Donald Trump. Bernstein went on to suggest that those responsible should be locked in a room with infected coronavirus patients as punishment.[30]
US biological weapon
Russian accusation
Further information: Cyberwarfare by Russia and Propaganda in the Russian Federation
On 22 February, US officials alleged that Russia is behind an ongoing disinformation campaign, using thousands of social media accounts on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to deliberately promote unfounded conspiracy theories, claiming that the virus is a biological weapon manufactured by the CIA and the US is waging economic war on China using the virus.[31][32][33] The acting assistant secretary of state for Europe and Eurasia, Philip Reeker, said that "Russia's intent is to sow discord and undermine US institutions and alliances from within" and "by spreading disinformation about coronavirus, Russian malign actors are once again choosing to threaten public safety by distracting from the global health response".[31] Russia denies the allegation, saying "this is a deliberately false story".[34]
According to US-based The National Interest magazine, although official Russian channels had been muted on pushing the US biowarfare conspiracy theory, other Russian media elements don't share the Kremlin's restraint.[35] Zvezda, a news outlet funded by the Russian Defense Ministry, published an article titled "Coronavirus: American biological warfare against Russia and China", claiming that the virus is intended to damage the Chinese economy, weakening its hand in the next round of trade negotiations.[35] Ultra-nationalist politician and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, claimed on a Moscow radio station that the virus was an experiment by the Pentagon and pharmaceutical companies. Politician Igor Nikulin made rounds on Russian television and news media, arguing that Wuhan was chosen for the attack because the presence of a BSL-4 virus lab provided a cover story for the Pentagon and CIA about a Chinese bio-experiment leak.[35]
Iranian accusation
Further information: Propaganda in Iran
According to Radio Farda, Iranian cleric Seyyed Mohammad Saeedi accused US President Donald Trump of targeting Qom with coronavirus "to damage its culture and honor". Saeedi claimed that Trump is fulfilling his promise to hit Iranian cultural sites, if Iranians took revenge for the US airstrike that killed of Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani.[36]
Iranian TV personality Ali Akbar Raefipour claimed that the coronavirus was part of a "hybrid warfare" programme waged by the United States on Iran and China.[37]
Brigadier General Gholam Reza Jalali, head of Iranian Civil Defense Organization, claimed that the coronavirus is likely a biological attack on China and Iran with economic goals.[38][39]
Hossein Salami, the head of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), claimed that the coronavirus outbreak in Iran may be due to a US "biological attack".[40] Several Iranian politicians, including Ali Khamenei, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, Rasoul Falahati, Alireza Panahian, Abolfazl Hasanbeigi and Gholamali Jafarzadeh Imanabadi, also made similar remarks.[41] However, Iran's deputy health minister Reza Malekzadeh rejected the biological warfare theory.[42]
Former Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent a letter to the United Nations on 9 March, claiming that "it is clear to the world that the mutated coronavirus was produced in lab" and that COVID-19 is “a new weapon for establishing and/or maintaining political and economic upper hand in the global arena."[43]
Chinese accusation
Further information: Cyberwarfare by China and Propaganda in China
According to London-based The Economist, conspiracy theories about COVID-19 being the CIA's creation to keep China down are being spread widely over the Internet in China.[44] Although biological warfare against Chinese troops in the Korean war is only considered an allegation in the US, it is considered official history in China, thus greatly helping these new theories gain credibility.[45]
Multiple conspiracy articles in Chinese from the SARS era resurfaced during the outbreak with altered details, claiming that SARS is biological warfare conducted by the US against China. Some of these articles claim that BGI Group from China sold genetic information of the Chinese people to the US, with the US then being able to deploy the virus specifically targeting the genome of Chinese individuals.[46]
On 26 January, Chinese military news site Xilu published an article detailing how the virus was artificially combined by the US to "precisely target Chinese people".[47] The article was removed after early February.
Some articles on popular sites in Chinese have also cast suspicion on US military athletes participating in the Wuhan 2019 Military World Games, which lasted until the end of October 2019, and have suggested that they deployed the virus. They claim the inattentive attitude and disproportionately below-average results of American athletes in the games indicate they might have been there for other purposes and they might actually be bio-warfare operatives. Such posts stated that their place of residence during their stay in Wuhan was also close to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, where the first known cluster of cases occurred.[48][45]
In March 2020, this conspiracy theory was endorsed by Zhao Lijian, a spokesperson from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China.[49][50][51] On 13 March, the US government summoned Chinese Ambassador Cui Tiankai to Washington DC over the coronavirus conspiracy theory.[52]
Arab world
According to Washington DC-based nonprofit Middle East Media Research Institute, numerous writers in the Arabic press have promoted the conspiracy theory that COVID-19, as well as SARS and the swine flu virus, were deliberately created and spread by the US in order to sell vaccines against these diseases, and it is "part of an economic and psychological war waged by the US against China with the aim of weakening it and presenting it as a backward country and a source of diseases".[53] Iraqi political analyst Sabah Al-Akili on Al-Etejah TV, Saudi daily Al-Watan writer Sa'ud Al-Shehry, Syrian daily Al-Thawra columnist Hussein Saqer, and Egyptian journalist Ahmad Rif'at on Egyptian news website Vetogate, were some examples given by MEMRI as propagators of the US biowarfare conspiracy theory in the Arabic world.[53]
Philippines
A Filipino Senator, Tito Sotto, played a bioweapon conspiracy video in a February Senate hearing, suggesting that the coronavirus is biowarfare waged against China.[54][55]
Venezuela
Constituent Assembly member Elvis Méndez declared that the coronavirus is a "bacteriological sickness created in '89, in '90 and historically" and that it was a sickness "inoculated by the gringos". Méndez theorized that the virus was a weapon against Latin America, against China and that its purpose was to demoralize the people to "establish their system". He also assured that Venezuela was prepared to face the virus and that the country had the same medical preparation as Cuba.[56]
Zionist biological weapon
Further information: Antisemitic canard
Iran's Press TV asserted that "Zionist elements developed a deadlier strain of coronavirus against Iran".[57] Similarly, various Arab media outlets accused Israel and the United States of creating and spreading COVID-19, avian flu, and SARS.[58] Users on social media offered a variety of theories, including the supposition that Jews had manufactured COVID-19 to precipitate a global stock market collapse and thereby profit via insider trading, while a guest on Turkish television posited a more ambitious scenario in which Jews and Zionists had created COVID-19, avian flu, and Crimean–Congo hemorrhagic fever in order to "design the world, seize countries, [and] neuter the world's population".[59]
Spy operation
Some people have alleged that the coronavirus was stolen from a Canadian virus research lab by Chinese scientists, citing a news article by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) in July 2019.[60] The CBC claimed their early report was distorted by misinformation, and that Eric Morrissette, chief of media relations for Health Canada and the Public Health Agency of Canada said that conspiracy theory had "no factual basis". Further, while the Chinese scientists had sent disease samples back to Beijing, neither sample sent during the 31 March 2019 transfer from Winnipeg, Canada to Beijing, China, was the current coronavirus. The current location of the missing Chinese researchers is confidential pending investigation by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. There is also no publicly available proof that the missing Chinese scientists were responsible for sending the pathogens to China.[61][62][63] In the midst of the coronavirus epidemic, a senior research associate and expert in biological warfare with the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, referring to a NATO press conference, identified suspicions of espionage as the reason behind the expulsions from the lab, but made no suggestion that coronavirus was taken from the Canadian lab or that it is the result of bioweapons defense research in China.[64]
Population control scheme
According to the BBC, Jordan Sather, a conspiracy theory YouTuber supporting the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory and the anti-vax movement, has falsely claimed the outbreak was a population control scheme created by Pirbright Institute in England and by former Microsoft CEO Bill Gates.[1][65]
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 11:02:21 AM
Post by: FloridaDean on March 16, 2020, 11:04:02 AM
later guys.
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 11:04:08 AM
deal #2 at Sis looks good.CAO gold is a nice Connecticut at 3.00 bucks is a nice price...
https://www.cigar.com/mobile/daily-cigar-deal
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 11:06:06 AM
Conspiracy theoriesThere's no way I could read all of that
Chinese biological weapon
Further information: Cyberwarfare in the United States and Propaganda in the United States
In January 2020, the BBC published an article about coronavirus misinformation, citing two 24 January articles from The Washington Times which claimed the virus was part of a Chinese biological weapons program, based at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).[1][13] The Washington Post later published an article debunking the conspiracy theory, citing US experts who explained why the institute was not suitable for bioweapon research, that most countries had abandoned bioweapons as fruitless, and that there was no evidence that the virus was genetically engineered.[14]
In February 2020, US Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR) as well as Francis Boyle, a law professor, suggested that the virus may have been a Chinese bioweapon,[15] while in the opinion of numerous medical experts there is no evidence for this.[16] Conservative political commentator Rush Limbaugh said on The Rush Limbaugh Show, the most popular radio show in the US, that the virus was probably "a ChiCom laboratory experiment" and that the Chinese were using the virus and the media hysteria surrounding it, to bring down Donald Trump.[17][18] In February 2020, The Financial Times reported from virus expert and global co-lead coronavirus investigator, Trevor Bedford, who said that "There is no evidence whatsoever of genetic engineering that we can find", and that, "The evidence we have is that the mutations [in the virus] are completely consistent with natural evolution".[19] Bedford further explained, "The most likely scenario, based on genetic analysis, was that the virus was transmitted by a bat to another mammal between 20–70 years ago. This intermediary animal—not yet identified—passed it on to its first human host in the city of Wuhan in late November or early December 2019".[19]
On 29 January, financial news website and blog ZeroHedge suggested, without evidence, that a scientist at the WIV created the COVID-19 strain responsible for the coronavirus outbreak. Zerohedge listed the full contact details of the scientist supposedly responsible, a practice known as doxing, by including the scientist's name, photo and phone number, suggesting to readers that they "pay [the Chinese scientist] a visit" if they wanted to know "what really caused the coronavirus pandemic".[20] Twitter later permanently suspended the blog's account for violating its platform manipulation policy.[21]
In January 2020, Buzzfeed News also reported on an internet meme/conspiracy theory of a link between the logo of the WIV and "Umbrella Corporation", the agency that made the virus that starts the zombie apocalypse in the Resident Evil franchise. The theory also saw a link between "Racoon" (the main city in Resident Evil), and an anagram of "Corona" (the name of the virus).[22] The popularity of this theory attracted the attention of Snopes, who proved it as false showing that the logo was not from the Institute, but from Shanghai Ruilan Bao Hu San Biotech Limited, located approximately 500 miles (800 km) away in Shanghai and additionally pointed out that the proper name of the city in Resident Evil is Raccoon City.[22]
The Inverse reported that "Christopher Bouzy, the founder of Bot Sentinel, did a Twitter analysis for Inverse and found [online] bots and trollbots are making an array of false claims. These bots are claiming China intentionally created the virus, that it's a biological weapon, that Democrats are overstating the threat to hurt Donald Trump and more. While we can't confirm the origin of these bots, they are decidedly pro-Trump."[23]
Misinformation aside, concerns on accidental leakage by the WIV remain.[24] In 2017, US molecular biologist Richard H. Ebright, expressed caution when the WIV was expanded to become mainland China's first biosafety level 4 (BSL–4) laboratory, noting previous escapes of the SARS virus at other Chinese laboratories.[25] While Ebright refuted several conspiracy theories regarding the WIV (e.g. bioweapons research, that the virus was engineered), he told BBC China that this did not represent the possibility of the virus being "completely ruled out" from entering the population due to a laboratory accident.[24] On 6 February, the White House asked scientists and medical researchers to rapidly investigate the origins of the virus in order to address both the current spread and "to inform future outbreak preparation and better understand animal/human and environmental transmission aspects of coronaviruses."[26]
Tobias Ellwood MP, chairperson of the Defence Select Committee of the UK House of Commons, also publicly questioned the role of the Chinese Army's Wuhan Institute for Biological Products and called for the "greater transparency over the origins of the coronavirus".[27]
South China Morning Post reported that one of the Institute's lead researchers, Shi Zhengli, was the particular focus of personal attacks in Chinese social media who alleged her work on bat-based viruses as the source of the virus, leading Shi to post: "I swear with my life, [the virus] has nothing to do with the lab", and when asked by the SCMP to comment on the attacks, Shi responded: "My time must be spent on more important matters".[28] Caixin reported Shi made further public statements against "perceived tinfoil-hat theories about the new virus's source", quoting her as saying: "The novel 2019 coronavirus is nature punishing the human race for keeping uncivilized living habits. I, Shi Zhengli, swear on my life that it has nothing to do with our laboratory".[29]
Far-right commentator Josh Bernstein claimed that the Democratic Party and the “medical deep state” were collaborating with the Chinese government to create and release the coronavirus in order to bring down Donald Trump. Bernstein went on to suggest that those responsible should be locked in a room with infected coronavirus patients as punishment.[30]
US biological weapon
Russian accusation
Further information: Cyberwarfare by Russia and Propaganda in the Russian Federation
On 22 February, US officials alleged that Russia is behind an ongoing disinformation campaign, using thousands of social media accounts on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to deliberately promote unfounded conspiracy theories, claiming that the virus is a biological weapon manufactured by the CIA and the US is waging economic war on China using the virus.[31][32][33] The acting assistant secretary of state for Europe and Eurasia, Philip Reeker, said that "Russia's intent is to sow discord and undermine US institutions and alliances from within" and "by spreading disinformation about coronavirus, Russian malign actors are once again choosing to threaten public safety by distracting from the global health response".[31] Russia denies the allegation, saying "this is a deliberately false story".[34]
According to US-based The National Interest magazine, although official Russian channels had been muted on pushing the US biowarfare conspiracy theory, other Russian media elements don't share the Kremlin's restraint.[35] Zvezda, a news outlet funded by the Russian Defense Ministry, published an article titled "Coronavirus: American biological warfare against Russia and China", claiming that the virus is intended to damage the Chinese economy, weakening its hand in the next round of trade negotiations.[35] Ultra-nationalist politician and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, claimed on a Moscow radio station that the virus was an experiment by the Pentagon and pharmaceutical companies. Politician Igor Nikulin made rounds on Russian television and news media, arguing that Wuhan was chosen for the attack because the presence of a BSL-4 virus lab provided a cover story for the Pentagon and CIA about a Chinese bio-experiment leak.[35]
Iranian accusation
Further information: Propaganda in Iran
According to Radio Farda, Iranian cleric Seyyed Mohammad Saeedi accused US President Donald Trump of targeting Qom with coronavirus "to damage its culture and honor". Saeedi claimed that Trump is fulfilling his promise to hit Iranian cultural sites, if Iranians took revenge for the US airstrike that killed of Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani.[36]
Iranian TV personality Ali Akbar Raefipour claimed that the coronavirus was part of a "hybrid warfare" programme waged by the United States on Iran and China.[37]
Brigadier General Gholam Reza Jalali, head of Iranian Civil Defense Organization, claimed that the coronavirus is likely a biological attack on China and Iran with economic goals.[38][39]
Hossein Salami, the head of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), claimed that the coronavirus outbreak in Iran may be due to a US "biological attack".[40] Several Iranian politicians, including Ali Khamenei, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, Rasoul Falahati, Alireza Panahian, Abolfazl Hasanbeigi and Gholamali Jafarzadeh Imanabadi, also made similar remarks.[41] However, Iran's deputy health minister Reza Malekzadeh rejected the biological warfare theory.[42]
Former Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent a letter to the United Nations on 9 March, claiming that "it is clear to the world that the mutated coronavirus was produced in lab" and that COVID-19 is “a new weapon for establishing and/or maintaining political and economic upper hand in the global arena."[43]
Chinese accusation
Further information: Cyberwarfare by China and Propaganda in China
According to London-based The Economist, conspiracy theories about COVID-19 being the CIA's creation to keep China down are being spread widely over the Internet in China.[44] Although biological warfare against Chinese troops in the Korean war is only considered an allegation in the US, it is considered official history in China, thus greatly helping these new theories gain credibility.[45]
Multiple conspiracy articles in Chinese from the SARS era resurfaced during the outbreak with altered details, claiming that SARS is biological warfare conducted by the US against China. Some of these articles claim that BGI Group from China sold genetic information of the Chinese people to the US, with the US then being able to deploy the virus specifically targeting the genome of Chinese individuals.[46]
On 26 January, Chinese military news site Xilu published an article detailing how the virus was artificially combined by the US to "precisely target Chinese people".[47] The article was removed after early February.
Some articles on popular sites in Chinese have also cast suspicion on US military athletes participating in the Wuhan 2019 Military World Games, which lasted until the end of October 2019, and have suggested that they deployed the virus. They claim the inattentive attitude and disproportionately below-average results of American athletes in the games indicate they might have been there for other purposes and they might actually be bio-warfare operatives. Such posts stated that their place of residence during their stay in Wuhan was also close to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, where the first known cluster of cases occurred.[48][45]
In March 2020, this conspiracy theory was endorsed by Zhao Lijian, a spokesperson from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China.[49][50][51] On 13 March, the US government summoned Chinese Ambassador Cui Tiankai to Washington DC over the coronavirus conspiracy theory.[52]
Arab world
According to Washington DC-based nonprofit Middle East Media Research Institute, numerous writers in the Arabic press have promoted the conspiracy theory that COVID-19, as well as SARS and the swine flu virus, were deliberately created and spread by the US in order to sell vaccines against these diseases, and it is "part of an economic and psychological war waged by the US against China with the aim of weakening it and presenting it as a backward country and a source of diseases".[53] Iraqi political analyst Sabah Al-Akili on Al-Etejah TV, Saudi daily Al-Watan writer Sa'ud Al-Shehry, Syrian daily Al-Thawra columnist Hussein Saqer, and Egyptian journalist Ahmad Rif'at on Egyptian news website Vetogate, were some examples given by MEMRI as propagators of the US biowarfare conspiracy theory in the Arabic world.[53]
Philippines
A Filipino Senator, Tito Sotto, played a bioweapon conspiracy video in a February Senate hearing, suggesting that the coronavirus is biowarfare waged against China.[54][55]
Venezuela
Constituent Assembly member Elvis Méndez declared that the coronavirus is a "bacteriological sickness created in '89, in '90 and historically" and that it was a sickness "inoculated by the gringos". Méndez theorized that the virus was a weapon against Latin America, against China and that its purpose was to demoralize the people to "establish their system". He also assured that Venezuela was prepared to face the virus and that the country had the same medical preparation as Cuba.[56]
Zionist biological weapon
Further information: Antisemitic canard
Iran's Press TV asserted that "Zionist elements developed a deadlier strain of coronavirus against Iran".[57] Similarly, various Arab media outlets accused Israel and the United States of creating and spreading COVID-19, avian flu, and SARS.[58] Users on social media offered a variety of theories, including the supposition that Jews had manufactured COVID-19 to precipitate a global stock market collapse and thereby profit via insider trading, while a guest on Turkish television posited a more ambitious scenario in which Jews and Zionists had created COVID-19, avian flu, and Crimean–Congo hemorrhagic fever in order to "design the world, seize countries, [and] neuter the world's population".[59]
Spy operation
Some people have alleged that the coronavirus was stolen from a Canadian virus research lab by Chinese scientists, citing a news article by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) in July 2019.[60] The CBC claimed their early report was distorted by misinformation, and that Eric Morrissette, chief of media relations for Health Canada and the Public Health Agency of Canada said that conspiracy theory had "no factual basis". Further, while the Chinese scientists had sent disease samples back to Beijing, neither sample sent during the 31 March 2019 transfer from Winnipeg, Canada to Beijing, China, was the current coronavirus. The current location of the missing Chinese researchers is confidential pending investigation by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. There is also no publicly available proof that the missing Chinese scientists were responsible for sending the pathogens to China.[61][62][63] In the midst of the coronavirus epidemic, a senior research associate and expert in biological warfare with the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, referring to a NATO press conference, identified suspicions of espionage as the reason behind the expulsions from the lab, but made no suggestion that coronavirus was taken from the Canadian lab or that it is the result of bioweapons defense research in China.[64]
Population control scheme
According to the BBC, Jordan Sather, a conspiracy theory YouTuber supporting the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory and the anti-vax movement, has falsely claimed the outbreak was a population control scheme created by Pirbright Institute in England and by former Microsoft CEO Bill Gates.[1][65]
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 11:16:45 AM
Cousin of my kids has a wedding coming up end of April...should be interesting.My oldest was supposed to do her DC trip in April. That's almost certainly canceled now. Though, I'm not sure how broken up she'll be, cause she didn't seem keen on going in the first place.
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 11:17:44 AM
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 11:29:06 AM
Cooper says good morning.Tell him I said, "arf arrrf grrrr ruff." He'll know what it means.
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 11:36:47 AM
lol...Cooper says good morning.Tell him I said, "arf arrrf grrrr ruff." He'll know what it means.
One of my dogs is getting ready to check out. I'm hoping for some warmer weather. He could always be content with warm sunshine
Post by: Threebean on March 16, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
Post by: razgueado on March 16, 2020, 12:56:21 PM
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 01:48:08 PM
That's actually a great translation. Google has improved immensely.Guardo Robin Meade su HLN, il mio canale di notizie locale, e leggo vari feed. la mia vita non dipende da ciò che pensa qualcun altro.I wonder how many people in Italy said that over the last two weeks.Then by all means, listen to Fox News, which is telling you this is a liberal hoax, and you should continue to go out, shake hands and be around lots of people. Then your life will REALLY depend on it.The end is already in sight.but that's CNN. I wouldn't believe anything they said if my life depended on it.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-20-intl-hnk/h_00633a0135cea337eda02ce7e6c854e3?fbclid=IwAR1Ggv2Dsbr4BXmpUjj_z_5fG-2J2Az4UqWCWAnqUdPhfPFtGUKzbmOFuGgI watch Robin Meade on HLN, my local news channel, and read various feeds. my life does not depend on what anyone one else thinks.
let's see how many Italians read this.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 01:49:11 PM
Makes sense to me.The Chinese! Ah, the endgame of the conspiracy reveals itself.Didn't take long for trading to get halted.once the market tanks and the working class no longer has funds to invest, guess who will be buying up all the stocks?
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 02:00:20 PM
for those that like maduro.Once you go Maduro....
https://www.cigarpage.com/maduro-monday-mad-house.html
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 02:02:48 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 02:06:01 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 02:07:44 PM
I told him, now he's growing blue shit out of his mouth. I must have messed something up in annunciation.Cooper says good morning.Tell him I said, "arf arrrf grrrr ruff." He'll know what it means.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 02:18:06 PM
Nope, you nailed it.I told him, now he's growing blue shit out of his mouth. I must have messed something up in annunciation.Cooper says good morning.Tell him I said, "arf arrrf grrrr ruff." He'll know what it means.
Post by: LuvTooGolf on March 16, 2020, 02:20:24 PM
Post by: flip from jersey on March 16, 2020, 02:42:48 PM
to resubmit the form that you signed in NEXT October, we will then expedite it. Glad I missed that call, then got
a live call on my land-line. Said he was a supervisor calling from Voya, looked at the history of my submissions, and
relialized that it was a dsylexic mistake, I hadn't time travelled to next October, while sitting next to the notary.
He spoke with his supervisor, and they are processing the withdrawel now! Will wonders never cease.
Post by: flip from jersey on March 16, 2020, 02:45:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE0TGFVquvM&fbclid=IwAR2W4V5mHUH_k87YEYx7aPlQ2ZDiCAdE5qL1T8J6xQF8UmG01StW6oR-bOk
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 03:26:16 PM
Cousin of my kids has a wedding coming up end of April...should be interesting.Indeed. The Mrs and I were just talking about such occasions. She had a baby shower canceled this past weekend. But weddings are already the beginning of the end so what's the difference?
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 03:26:39 PM
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=snl+cold+open+last+night&view=detail&mid=1E1EC39C776AC81501D91E1EC39C776AC81501D9&FORM=VIRE
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 03:28:46 PM
My 2nd is supposed to have her DC trip in May. She is absolutely broken up about it. The word is they'll do it in the next school year instead.Cousin of my kids has a wedding coming up end of April...should be interesting.My oldest was supposed to do her DC trip in April. That's almost certainly canceled now. Though, I'm not sure how broken up she'll be, cause she didn't seem keen on going in the first place.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 03:29:54 PM
Hahaha.for those that like maduro.Once you go Maduro....
https://www.cigarpage.com/maduro-monday-mad-house.html
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 03:33:07 PM
You know the gig here, no gyms, bars, restaurants.Cousin of my kids has a wedding coming up end of April...should be interesting.Indeed. The Mrs and I were just talking about such occasions. She had a baby shower canceled this past weekend. But weddings are already the beginning of the end so what's the difference?
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 03:33:54 PM
You know the gig here, no gyms, bars, restaurants.Cousin of my kids has a wedding coming up end of April...should be interesting.Indeed. The Mrs and I were just talking about such occasions. She had a baby shower canceled this past weekend. But weddings are already the beginning of the end so what's the difference?
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 03:33:57 PM
NYC - DCP Update (401-K and 457)Got a voice message on my cell from a woman supervisor, Yes, you will haveThat's the stuff that makes it exciting.
to resubmit the form that you signed in NEXT October, we will then expedite it. Glad I missed that call, then got
a live call on my land-line. Said he was a supervisor calling from Voya, looked at the history of my submissions, and
relialized that it was a dsylexic mistake, I hadn't time travelled to next October, while sitting next to the notary.
He spoke with his supervisor, and they are processing the withdrawel now! Will wonders never cease.
Post by: A Friend of Charlie on March 16, 2020, 03:36:28 PM
Post by: Travellin Dave on March 16, 2020, 03:44:29 PM
Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 04:01:08 PM
I think we just saw a Tapatalk glitch. Rick posted the same thing twice and my original response quoted the the wrong post. Dang Chinese.How the heck? Anyhow H Upmann by AJ on
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Post by: Threebean on March 16, 2020, 05:31:57 PM
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Post by: bluecollar on March 16, 2020, 07:01:03 PM
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