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[razgueado]

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[A Friend of Charlie]

First!

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[TruDog]

First!

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I'd say third, but whose Moe?  And better yet, whose on First?

[LSUFAN]

Good morning guys.

[LSUFAN]

On this day in history ..
1535 - Bloemkamp Abbey (Oldeklooster) attacked & destroyed
1556 - Karel V's son Philip II crowned king of Spain
1556 - Origin of Fasli Era (India)
1738 - English parliament declares war on Spain (War of Jenkin's Ear)
1774 - Britain passes Coercive Act against Massachusetts
1794 - Louvre opens to the public (although officially opened since August)
1796 - Bethel African Methodist Church of Phila is 1st US-African church
1797 - Nathaniel Briggs of NH patents a washing machine
1799 - NY State abolished slavery
1804 - Ohio passed law restricting movement of Blacks, 1804
1834 - Senate censure Pres Jackson for taking fed deposits from Bank of US
1837 - Felix Mendelssohn marries C‚cile Jeanrenaud
1844 - Jos‚ Zorilla's "Don Juan Tenorio," premieres in Madrid
1845 - Mexico drops diplomatic relations with US
1849 - Dutch princess Marianne & Prince Albert of Prussia separate
1854 - During the Crimean War, Britain & France declare war on Russia
1859 - 1st performance of John Brahms' 1st Serenade for orchestra
1862 - Skirmish at Bealeton Station, Virginia
1866 - 1st ambulance goes into service
1871 - SF Art Assn holds open reception at 430 Pine
1881 - Greatest Show On Earth was formed by PT Barnum & James A Bailey
1885 - US Salvation Army officially organized
1891 - 1st world weightlifting championship held
1896 - The opera "Andrea Chenier" is produced (Milan)

[LSUFAN]

1902 - 27.9 cm precipitation at McMinnville, Tennessee (state record)
1905 - Paramaribo-Dam railway opens in Suriname, never used
1910 - 1st seaplane, takes off from water at Martinques France (Henri Fabre)
1917 - Jews are expelled from Tel Aviv & Jaffa by Turkish authorities
1917 - Puccini's "La Rondine," premieres in Monte Carlo
1920 - Actor Douglas Fairbanks marries actress Mary Pickford
1920 - Thomas Masaryk elected president of Czechoslovakia
1922 - 1st microfilm device introduced
1922 - Stanley Cup: Toronto St Pats (NHL) beat Vancouver Millionaires (PCHA), 3 games to 2
1924 - WGN-AM in Chicago IL begins radio transmissions
1927 - Majestic Theater opens at 245 W 44th St NYC
1929 - Democratic constitution goes into effect in Ecuador
1930 - 1st performance of Walter Piston's Suite for orchestra (Boston)
1930 - Constantinople & Angora changes names to Istanbul & Ankara
1933 - German Reichstag confers dictatorial powers on Hitler
1935 - Goddard uses gyroscopes to control a rocket
1939 - Dutch hunter shoots English bombers down
1939 - Philip Barry's "Philadelphia Story," premieres in NYC
1939 - Renaissance Big 5 win 1st pro basketball championship
1939 - Spanish Civil War ends, Madrid falls to Francisco Franco
1941 - Sea battle at Cape Matapan: Brit fleet under Cunningham defeats Italy
1942 - -29] 234 RAF bombers attack Lbeck
1942 - 4th NCAA Men's Basketball Championship: Stanford beats Dartmouth 53-38
1942 - British naval forces raid Nazi occupied French port of St Nazaire
1942 - Raid on lock/dock St Nazaire

[LSUFAN]

1944 - 6th NCAA Men's Basketball Championship: Utah defeats Dartmouth 42-40
1944 - Astrid Lindgren sprains ankle & begins writing Pippi Longstocking
1944 - NBA rookie of the year in 1966, Rick Barry
1945 - Last German V-2 (buzz bomb) attack on London
1948 - 2nd Tony Awards: Mister Roberts win
1950 - 12th NCAA Men's Basketball Championship: CCNY beats Bradley 71-68 NYC college becomes 1st to win NCAA & Natl Inv Basketball in same year
1952 - US Ladies Figure Skating championship won by Tenley Albright
1952 - US Mens Figure Skating championship won by Richard Button
1953 - "New Faces (of 1952)" closes at Royale Theater NYC after 365 perfs
1953 - "Stock exchanges open, dikes closed" raises Ÿ5,200,000
1953 - 7th Tony Awards: Crucible & Wonderful Town win
1953 - KCAU TV channel 9 in Sioux City, IA (ABC) begins broadcasting
1953 - US Ladies Figure Skating championship won by Tenley Albright
1953 - US Mens Figure Skating championship won by Hayes A Jenkins
1954 - 8th Tony Awards: Teahouse of the August Moon & Kismet win
1954 - Louise Suggs wins LPGA Betsy Rawls Golf Open
1954 - WKAQ TV channel 2 in San Juan, PR (TM) begins broadcasting
1955 - NZ cricket all out for 26 v England at Eden Park
1957 - 1st National Curling Championship held
1959 - 11 days after Tibet uprising, China dissolves Tibet's govt & installs Panchen Lama
1960 - Pope John raises the 1st Japanese, 1st African & 1st Filipino cardinal
1960 - Scotch factory explodes burying 20 fire fighters (Glasgow Scotland)
1962 - Devastating 8 for 6 spell by Gibbs gives WI cricket victory over India
1962 - Military coup in Syria, President Nazim al-Kudsi flees
1963 - AFL's NY Titan's become the NY Jets
1964 - 1st pirate radio station near England (Radio Caroline)
1964 - 9.2 earthquake shakes Prince William Sound, Alaska
1965 - Jo Ann Prentice wins LPGA All State Ladies' Golf Invitational
1967 - "Sherry!" opens at Alvin Theater NYC for 65 performances
1967 - UN Sect General U Thant makes public proposals for peace in Vietnam
1969 - Pope Paul VI names JGM Willebrands cardinal
1970 - 1,086 die when 7.4 quake destroys 254 villages (Gediz Turkey)
1971 - 25th Tony Awards: Sleuth & Company win
1972 - USSR performs nuclear test at Eastern Kazakh/Semipalitinsk USSR
1972 - Wilt Chamberlain plays his last pro basketball game
1974 - Rock group Raspberries breakup

[LSUFAN]

1975 - Wash Caps win 1st game on road after 37 straight road loses also
1977 - 39th NCAA Men's Basketball Championship: Marquette beats NC 67-59
1977 - 49th Academy Awards - "Rocky," Peter Finch & Faye Dunaway win
1977 - Morarji Desai forms govt in India
1979 - British government of Callaghan falls
1979 - Lazarus & Vosburgh's "Day in Hollywood & night in Ukraine," premieres
1979 - Major nuclear accident at 3 Mile Island, Middletown, Pa (no deaths)
1981 - Christa Rothenburger skates ladies world record 500 m 40.18 sec)
1981 - France performs nuclear test
1981 - Gabi Sch”nbrunn skates ladies world record 3 km (4:21.70)
1981 - Viv Richards scores century in the 1st Test at his home Antigua
1981 - Yevgeni Kulikov skates world record 500m (36.91 secs)
1982 - 12th Easter Seal Telethon raises $19,500,000
1982 - 1st NCAA Women's Basketball Championship: LA Tech beats Cheney 76-62
1982 - Amy Alcott wins LPGA Women's Kemper Golf Open
1982 - JN Duartes christian-democrats win elections in El Salvador
1985 - International Cometary Explorer measures solar wind ahead of Halley
1985 - Neil Simon's "Biloxi Blues," premieres in NYC
1985 - STS 51-D vehicle moves to launch pad
1986 - Extremist Sikhs kill 13 hindus in Ludhiana India
1986 - John N McMahon, ends term as deputy director of CIA
1987 - Stacking of Discovery's SRBs gets underway
1989 - New Zealand wins America's Cup over Stars & Stripes, in a NY court
1990 - Bengal beat Delhi in rained-out cricket Ranji Trophy final on quotient
1990 - Michael Jordan scores 69 points, 4th time he scores 60 pts in a game
1990 - President Bush awards Jesse Owen the Congressional Gold Medal
1991 - Mike Tyson admits paternity to Kimberly Scarborough's son
1992 - 6th American Comedy Award: Cathy Ladman, Judy Watkins, Billy Crystal
1992 - Ann Transon runs female world record 50k (3:35:31)
1992 - PBA National Championship Won by Eric Forkel
1993 - 13th Golden Raspberry Awards: Shining Through wins
1993 - 22nd Nabisco Dinah Shore Golf Championship won by Helen Alfredsson
1993 - Conservatives win French parliamentary election
1993 - Type II supernova detected in M81 (NGC 3031)
1994 - Armed Zulus demonstrate in Johannesburg, over 53 killed
1994 - Italy's right-wing alliance under Silvio Berlusconi wins election
1995 - Julia Roberts & Lyle Lovette split-up
1995 - Queensland beat S Aust to win 1st ever cricket Sheffield Shield
1995 - World's largest bank-Japan's Mitsubishi Bank & Bank of Tokyo merge
1996 - "7 Guitars" opens at Walter Kerr Theater NYC
1996 - "Seven Guitars," opens at Walter Kerr Theater NYC
1996 - Katie Beam, 17, of Okla, crowned 35th Miss Teenage America
1997 - "City" soap opera's final episode on ABC-TV
1999 - 18th NCAA Women's Basketball Championship: at San Jose

[LSUFAN]

Famous birthdays for this day ..

1468 - Charles I, Duke of Savoy
1472 - Fra Bartolomeo, monk, Florentine Renaissance painter
1483 - Raphael, Urbino Italy, painter (School of Athens)
1515 - Theresa of Avila/Teresa de Jesus, Spanish mystic writer/saint
1592 - Jan Amos Komensky, [Comenius] Moravian educational reB03281603 Stephan Otto, composer
1615 - Pieter de Groot, Dutch regent/diplomat
1621 - Heinrich Schwemmer, composer
1643 - Jose Solana, composer
1660 - Arnold Houbraken, Dutch schilder/writer
1660 - Georg Ludwig, German monarch of Hannover/King George I of Gt Britain
1727 - Maximilian III Jozef, Elector of Bayern (1745-77)
1729 - Pieter Fouquet, Dutch art seller (Atlas of Fouquet)
1731 - R mon de la Cruz, Spanish playwright/interpreter
1737 - Francesco Zannetti, composer
1741 - Johann Andre, composer
1750 - Francisco A G de Miranda, Venezuelan freedom fighter
1760 - Thomas Clarkson, English abolitionist (Negro Emancipation)
1766 - Joseph Weigl, Austria composer/conductor (Emmeline)
1770 - Sophie Mereau, writer
1779 - Angelo Maria Benincori, composer
1799 - Karl Adolph von Basedow, German artist (Ziekte van Basedow)
1806 - Ludolf AJW Sloet van de Beele, gov-gen of Neth Indies (1861-66)
1817 - Mariano Soriano Fuertes y Piqueras, composer
1818 - Wade Hampton, SC, Lt Gen (Confederate Army), died in 1902
1840 - Mehemed Emin Pasja, German explorer/governor (Equatoria)
1853 - Rudolf Kittel, German theologist (Psalms)
1859 - Jos‚phin P‚ladan, French writer/founder (French Rosicrucians)
1862 - Aristide Briand, France, 11x premier (1909-22) (Nobel 1926)
1868 - Cuno Amiet, Swiss painter
1868 - Maxim Gorki, [Aleksei Peshikov], Russia, writer (Mother) [3/16 OS]
1868 - Wojciech Gawronski, composer
1871 - Willem Mengelberg, Utrecht Neth, conductor (NY Philharmonic 1922-30)
1872 - Jos‚ Sanjurjo y Sacanell, Spanish general (Morocco)
1880 - Rosina Lh‚vinne, Kiev Ukraine, pianist/prof (Juiliard Grad School)
1883 - William H Harris, composer
1885 - Marc-Jean-Baptiste Delmas, composer
1886 - Jaroslav Novotny, composer
1887 - Rudolf F W Boskaljon, Cura‡ao, musician/composer
1890 - Paul Whiteman, Denver Co, orch leader (Paul Whiteman's TV Teen Club)
1891 - Karel MJF Cruysberghs, Flemish author
1891 - Peter Suhrkamp, German publisher (Suhrkamp Verlag)
1895 - Spencer W Kimball, 12th prophet of Mormon church

[LSUFAN]

1900 - Achille Longo, composer
1900 - Robert Harris, actor (Big Caper, Laughing Anne)
1902 - Flora Robson, South Shields England, actress (Dominique is Dead)
1902 - Paul Godwin, [Goldfein], Polish/Dutch violinist
1903 - Rudolf Serkin, Eger Bohemia, pianist (Marlboro Sch of Music)
1904 - Fosco Giachetti, Livorno Italy, actor (Wastrel, We the Living)
1905 - Marlin Perkins, Carthage Mo, TV host (Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom)
1905 - Pandro S Berman, film producer
1906 - Joseph Wright, Canada, oarsman (Olympic-gold-1928)
1906 - Robert (Bob) Allen, actor (Texas Rangers)
1907 - Herbert "Herb" Hall, clarinetist/saxophonist
1909 - Nelson Algren, US, novelist (Man with the Golden Arm)
1910 - Ingrid, Queen Mother of Denmark
1911 - Myfanwy Piper, librettist
1912 - A[rthur] Bertram Chandler, UK, sci-fi author (Empress of Outer Space)
1914 - Bohumil Hrabal, writer
1914 - Edmund Sixtus Muskie, (Sen-D-Me)/US Sec of State (1980)
1914 - Frank Lovejoy, Bronx NY, actor (Man Against Crime, Meet McGraw)
1915 - Jay Livingston, composer (Buttons & Bows, Mona Lisa, Tammy)
1915 - Raymond Emery, cricketer (NZ Test batsman vs West Indies 1952)
1918 - Youly Algaroff, ballet dancer
1919 - Jacob Avshalomov, Tsingtao China, composer (Sinfonietta, The Oregon)
1919 - Tom Brooks, cricketer (NSW fast bowler of the 30's, later Test umpire)
1920 - Dirk Bogarde, London England, actor (Death in Venice, Servant)
1920 - Gene Chappie, (Rep-R-CA, 1981-86)
1920 - Lord Butterfield

[LSUFAN]

1924 - Freddie Bartholomew, England, actor (Anna Karenina, David Copperfield)
1924 - Gerhart Fritsch, writer
1924 - Peter Baer, artost/printmaker
1925 - Innokenti Smoktunovsky, actor (Bely Prazdnik, Zakoldovannye)
1926 - Francis Burt, composer
1926 - Polly Umrigar, cricketer (Indian batsman & captain)
1928 - Jose Luis de Delas, composer
1928 - Zbigniew Brzezinski, Warsaw, national security advisor (Carter)
1929 - Aubrey J Watson Sr, bishop
1930 - Amelia Rosselli, poet
1930 - George Bruce, painter
1930 - Robert Ashley, composer
1932 - Sven Oskar Lindqvist, Swedish writer (Myten om Wu Tao-tzu)
1934 - Siegfried Thiele, composer
1936 - Mario Vargas Llosa, Peru, writer (Aunt Julia)/pres candidate
1940 - J Michael Plumb, Islip NY, equestrian (Oly-2 gold/4 silver-1976,84)
1940 - Kevin Loughery, NBA star/coach (Balt, Phila)
1941 - Alf Clausen, Minneapolis Mn, orch leader (Mary, Simpsons)
1941 - Charlie McCoy, Oak Hill WV, harmonica player (Hee Haw)
1942 - Brian Jones, [Lewis B Hopkin], English pop guitarist (Rolling Stones)
1942 - Neil Kinnock, Wales, leader (Labour Party)
1942 - Neil Kinnock, leader of the British opposition (Labour)
1942 - Samuel Ramey, Colby Kansas, bass (La Scala)
1943 - Conchata Ferrell, Charleston WV, actress (Deadly Hero, Susan-LA Law)
1943 - Mike Newell, director (Bad Blood, Awakening, Amazing Grace & Chuck)
1943 - Richard Eyre, British director (National Theatre)
1944 - Ken Howard, El Centro Calif, actor (Ken-White Shadow, Dynasty, 1776)
1944 - Rick Barry, ABA/NBA forward (NY Nets, Golden State Warriors)
1945 - Chuck Portz, Santa Monica Ca, bassist (Turtles-Happy Together)
1945 - Hans Brunhart, leader of Liechtenstein (1978-93)
1946 - Richard Sussman, rocker
1947 - Bruce Gilbert, producer (China Syndrome, 9 to 5, On Golden Pond)
1948 - Dianne Wiest, KC MO, actress (Hannah & Her Sisters, Footloose)
1948 - John Evans, (Aka Evan) rock drummer (Jethro Tull)
1948 - Wubbo J Ockels, Almelo Netherlands, astronaut (STS 22)
1949 - Milan Williams, US keyboardist (Commodores-Three Times a Lady)
1949 - Ronnie Ray Smith, 4 X 100m relay runner (Olympic-gold-1968)
1949 - Shafiq Ahmed, cricketer (Pakistani batsman during the 70's)
1953 - Nydia M Velazquez, (Rep-D-New York, 1993- )
1955 - Reba McEntire, McAlester Ok, country singer (Can't Even Get the Blues)
1956 - Asoka De Silva, cricket leg-spinner (Sri Lanka in 10 Tests 1985-91)
1956 - Evelin Jahl, German DR, discus thrower (Olympic-2 gold-1976)
1956 - T A Sekar, Indian cricket pace-bowler (2 Tests 1982-83 little impact)
1957 - Harvey Glance, Pheonix City Ala, 4x100m runner (Olympic-gold-1976)
1958 - Bart Wayne Conner, Morton Grove Ill, gymnist (Olympic-2 gold-1984)
1959 - Petra Delhees, Jauch Switzertand, tennis star

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1959 - Todd Curtis, actor (Capitol, Skip-Young & Restless)
1961 - Byron Scott, NBA guard (Vancouver Grizzlies)
1962 - Ged Grimes, [Danny Wilson], rocker (Mary's Prayer)
1963 - Bernice King, daughter of Martin Luther King Jr
1963 - Therese Washtock, Vancouver BC, 3 day equestrian (Olympics-96)
1965 - Jeff Beukeboom, Ajax, NHL defenseman (NY Rangers)
1966 - Jason Garrett, NFL quarterback (Dallas Cowboys)
1966 - Nathalie Herreman, France, tennis star
1966 - Serge Djelloul, hockey defenseman (Team France 1998)
1967 - David Lang, NFL running back (Dallas Cowboys)
1967 - Ed[ward] Grose, Juneau Alaska, rower (Olympics-1996)
1967 - Shawn Boskie, Hawthorne Nevada, pitcher (California Angels)
1968 - Chad Biafore, hockey defenseman (Team Italy 1998)
1968 - Dennis Postlewait, Jacksonville NC, Nike golfer (1994 Wichita Open)
1968 - Max Perlich, actor (JH Brodie-Homicide)
1968 - Nasser Hussain, cricketer (Essex & England batsman)
1968 - Teee Williams, LA Calif, volleyball outside hitter (Oly-bronze-92, 96)
1969 - Craig Paquette, Long Beach CA, infielder (KC Royals)
1969 - Earnest Stewart, soccer player (Willem II)
1969 - Elliot Perry, NBA guard (Phoenix Suns, Milwaukee Bucks)
1969 - Salt, rocker (Salt 'n' Pepa-Shake Ya Thang)
1969 - Scottie Graham, NFL running back (Minn Vikings, Cincinnati Bengals)
1970 - James Johnson, NFL/WLAF running back (Tampa Bucs, Frankfurt Galaxy)
1970 - Jason B Gailes, Taunton Mass, rower (Olympics-silver-1996)
1970 - Shawn Price, NFL defensive end (GB Packers, Car Panthers, Buf Bills)
1971 - Damien Marsh, Georgia, Australian 100m/200m swimmer (Olympics-96)
1971 - Wesley Person, NBA guard (Phoenix Suns, Cleveland Cavaliers)
1972 - Derek West, offensive tackle (Indianapolis Colts)
1972 - Jonathan Edwards, Boston Mass, doubles luger (Olympics-1994)
1972 - Keith Tkachuk, Melrose MA, NHL left wing (Winnipeg Jets, Phoenix, USA)
1972 - Michael Smith, NBA forward (Sacramento Kings)
1972 - Mike Morton, linebacker (Oakland Raiders)
1972 - Shannon Mitchell, NFL tight end (SD Chargers)
1973 - Andrew Whittall, cricketer (cousin of Guy Zimbabwe off-spinner 1996)
1974 - K C Jones, NFL center (Denver Broncos-Superbowl 32)
1975 - Atta-ur-Rehman, cricketer (Pakistani quickie, debut v Engl1992 age 17)
1977 - Angelo Garcia, Brooklyn NY, singer (Menudo-Cannonball)
1978 - Nafisa Joseph, Miss India Universe (1997)
1979 - Juli Keech, Miss South Dakota Teen USA (1997)
1980 - Cara Lewis, Miss Mississippi Teen USA (1997)

[LSUFAN]

Hardware Store
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Harlow was fixing a door and he found that he needed a new hinge, so he
sent his wife Mary to the hardware store.  At the hardware store, Mary saw
a beautiful teapot on a top shelf while she was waiting for Carl, the manager,
to finish waiting on a customer.

When Carl was finished, Mary asked how much for the teapot.

Carl replied, "That's silver and it costs $100!"

"My goodness, that sure is a lottamoney!" Mary exclaimed.  Then she
proceeded to describe the hinge that Harlow had sent her to buy,
and Carl went to the back room to find it.

From the back room Carl yelled, "Mary, you wanna screw for that hinge?"

Mary replied, "No, but I will for the teapot." 

This is why you can't send a woman to a hardware store.

[LuvTooGolf]

Morning, Chip.